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Fear of death.

^ Brother, when you are in deep sleep, do you feel absent? Do you feel like being present also? Do you even feel anything at all? NO. So why claim the un-claimable, that in death, there is absence? What absence? Absence of whom or what, or when?
 
Ksa said:
Nixiam said:
And who is there to notice that absence? Absence is also perceived by a presence, or, the perceiver, when the perceiver is dead, who is there to notice things like an absence? See, you still can't let go of yourself when you're trying to visualize death...you're cheating, you say you're dead, but not quite because look, you can notice an absence. In death, there is no absence, there is no ab and there is no sence also. There is not even nothing.
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when people that I love die, they are absent and I notice. If you are so ok with death prove it and kill yourself.
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levelsBeyond said:
Since we're sharing our personal opinions about others posts, I wish you'd keep some of your comments to yourself KSA. I got no problem with your contributions to the topic, in fact I think you have some intelligent things to say, but do yourself a favor and stop there. Life circumstances can suck, but your attitude ain't helping. are you seriously proposing taking as much as you can from life before taking your own life? Come on man, snap out of it. I feel for you being in a bad place, but you may be surprised to discover just how much a role your attitude is playing in perpetuating this.

You find it appropriate to take someones near death experiences and equate that to personal shortcomings in order to invalidate their perspective. Fuckin' aye, tone it down man.
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Hmmm, I removed the post if it bothers you. I'm actually a hopeless optimist. I truly believe there's always a way out of anything...and I do mean anything.
 
Ksa said:
^ Brother, when you are in deep sleep, do you feel absent? Do you feel like being present also? Do you even feel anything at all? NO. So why claim the un-claimable, that in death, there is absence? What absence? Absence of whom or what, or when?
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I don't quite understand what you are asking me to define. Are you asking me to clarify what presence vs. absence is, and how you know which is which in the context of death?
 
Ksa said:
^ Well, I tried my best, but I'm not sure what your contribution to this topic really is, other then the fact that you almost died 5 times, which makes me doubt your intellect.

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At least I didn't almost die 5 times dude. I don't care what you do for a living, if you almost die 5 times you got a problem with your stomach (points at the head!). You have a heart burn (points at the head!).

Like, I didn't even bother reading, I just read the intro where he said he died 5 times and I stopped reading because I thought it wasn't worth my time. Seriously, would you take advice from someone who almost died 5 times. Hahaha! (laughts for real), cmon...do you want to die too? LOOL.

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I read it now lol, it's a good read but still no answers. I personally don't think death exists, I honestly think that the second I die, I'll come out another asshole somewhere in the Universe, not knowing what is happening, just like I did in 1985 when I was born. I'm more worried with where all this is going...is this existence model viable and is it going to be around forever. I'm talking about the big bangs blowing up out there, what is their meaning and do we have reasons to be concerned?!

Like, is this whole thing at risk of dissapearing, or is it all normal that things blow up like fireworks. It's questions like these that we know fuckall about
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Foreigner said:
You seemed OK to talk about it until things were pointed out that you didn't like. Then i got accused of having a dim intellect.

Your story changes often.
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Woaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

There could be a NUMBER OF REASONS for someone "nearly dying five times" and where is there a correlation between that of time nearly died and level of intellect? I must fish out at study ;) How do you know that Foreigner hasn't an illness? What about people with heart conditions? My Taid had a double heart attack and nearly died twice in the same day. What about people with blood conditions and have often nearly died because they're not had blood transfusions on time? And what about people with mental health and suicidal tendencies? it's nothing to do with intellect. I feel that you're being disrespect and unfair there when you're more than likely not in possession of he facts around Foreigner's situation.

His post was useful for giving us an insight into how he views death - in the same way that everyone else's posts are useful for the same reason. This thread is nothing to do with intellect and everything to do with many different viewpoints as none of us can truly know what happens when we die..

Evey
 
Enlight Spurrett said:
I'm nit happy with all of the religious stuff. I respect people have their beliefs but I really wanted either a true scientific/psychological answer or peoples philosophies. For example, is there either something wrong with my brain or could it be to do with comfort and acceptance? I know people who are terminally ill and dying can accept that they are dying and it doesn't upset them beyond a certain point. I am not dying so it confused me as everyone I know fears their own death. Is there any link between not fearing my own death but greatly fearing the deaths of those close to me?
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that would be an interesting discussion "Is there a coloration between estimated duration before death and fear/acceptance?"

Evey
 
Ooo. A nice brain teaser. Unfortunately, my young and feeble mind cannot afford to think about such any further. lol

<3 hi evey

And for the record, I fear the death of my loved ones far worse than my own. I only fear my own death because I do not want my family to have to mourn when I'm gone. That in and of itself, would be far too heart breaking for me to endure. At that point, I'd hope that I am not concious after death. Not until they arrive there with me. Maybe I should take that back, but I cannot stand the thought of me sitting in empty space watching my young brother and sister have to grow up without my guidance, without my being of help or warmth or love. Watching my mother, who has to take fentanyl for her chronic pain and duct tape herself together, completely fall apart. The heartfelt conversations we share would no longer persist with eachother, but we would both take time out of our day to recognize what is no longer there. My siblings will have lost an elder brother, my mother her eldest son, and that would be far too hard for me to watch. But if I am concious after death, watch I shall.

I'm too scared that I will die in my sleep tonight. I won't be able to rest tonight, sadly. In this edited response, it was not my intention to type myself to tears.

God curse my insomnia. I need a cigarette.
 
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Eveleivibe said:
Hiya Nixiam how are you?

I'm rather contradictory on this subject as I'm a Christian but do enjoy listening to people's perspectives on the subject of death.

Evey
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Well my mental state is in shambles due to my overthinking of people affected by my death and how I would be affected, and editing my "hi Evey" response into an essay about such. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

I believe I saw you in TL. I am the latest addition, an infantile member of sorts. My name is even in a thread titled "what are you doing v. stfu nix u piece of shit".
 
It makes sense to fear death to trigger survival in this kind of life simulation.

Sometimes you can do something with the response to that fear.

I feel like the main fear motivator is the not knowing what comes next instead of the losing what you have now, though both contribute.
 
Eveleivibe said:
Woaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

There could be a NUMBER OF REASONS for someone "nearly dying five times" and where is there a correlation between that of time nearly died and level of intellect? I must fish out at study ;) How do you know that Foreigner hasn't an illness? What about people with heart conditions? My Taid had a double heart attack and nearly died twice in the same day. What about people with blood conditions and have often nearly died because they're not had blood transfusions on time? And what about people with mental health and suicidal tendencies? it's nothing to do with intellect. I feel that you're being disrespect and unfair there when you're more than likely not in possession of he facts around Foreigner's situation.

His post was useful for giving us an insight into how he views death - in the same way that everyone else's posts are useful for the same reason. This thread is nothing to do with intellect and everything to do with many different viewpoints as none of us can truly know what happens when we die..

Evey
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Yes and all I did was contradict him on absence being part of death and he got a huge gag reflex.
 
Isn't it weird to have two threads about the same topic that are almost entirely different in content?

I am forgetting where I am I think...

ksa said:
Yes and all I did was contradict him on absence being part of death and he got a huge gag reflex.
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And than proceeded to be a typical dick with ridiculous insinuations about Foreigners health and state of mind (I think that's what you did, you don't communicate very well). You have ejaculated a number of ideas around here recently and none of them really make sense. I smell excess dopamine and I think you should wear a condom.
 
willow11 said:
Isn't it weird to have two threads about the same topic that are almost entirely different in content?

I am forgetting where I am I think...



And than proceeded to be a typical dick with ridiculous insinuations about Foreigners health and state of mind (I think that's what you did, you don't communicate very well). You have ejaculated a number of ideas around here recently and none of them really make sense. I smell excess dopamine and I think you should wear a condom.
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I am a dick because my dick is part of me, and will be part of you too if you keep up with your bs.
 
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