FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests owner

oldirtybizza said:
One could even argue that in America there is no state, but a corporate entity that manipulates the free market and social policies to solely benefit it's wealthy subsidiaries.
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I like that....I hate it when people rant and rave about the government...but I think this statement really cuts right to the heart of the problem....

I still think there's some politicians who aren't complete puppets, but even if they're not complete puppets, they still owe favors and pull strings for corporate interests...
 
all of it is just a glorified escrow service with a quasi-Amazon feel to it

at the very core of it you don't need any site really, just someone you trust and a bitcoin address

but that's easier said than done

and of course DPR wouldn't have wanted you to know that

"free market" or some bullshit like that right?
 
shimazu said:
all of it is just a glorified escrow service with a quasi-Amazon feel to it

at the very core of it you don't need any site really, just someone you trust and a bitcoin address

but that's easier said than done
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'just'? You mention the 2 easiest parts of it (tech back-end for finance and sale interface) as if the biggest hurdle were not how to build trust to the level where it's functional on any type of large-ish scale. People have always bought online but SR was able to create a legit, trusted site with heavy inventory and feedback. Even though it still 'just' used tor/bc's, it was a new animal.


shim said:
and of course DPR wouldn't have wanted you to know that

"free market" or some bullshit like that right?
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If you say so- it's just guesses at what he was really about at this time.

He wouldn't have wanted that, if he was only in it for the money (or if the money were far more important to him than the bigger picture). His writings, the (very)modest lifestyle he led, and the way in which he conducted this operation, say otherwise.



StoneHappyMonday said:
Crazy shit! You mean, like, we could buy drugs off the street and ditch this interwebz shiz-ness? ;)
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I wish SR were out some years ago when I woulda had the balls to order from them, seems incredibly safe and convenient compared to how things were on the streets..
I very much liked an analogy I saw on reddit, something to the effect of:
napster-->kazaa-->utorrent
silk road--> ?

I like to think that pandora's box is open and there's no going back. Now that this has been demonstrated to work, others will relentlessly set them up no matter how often they're taken down. And the honeypot/hacked risks are impractical hinderances for most small-scale buyers, which are the lifeblood (yes, sellers are needed but there will *always* be someone willing to sell online, there just needs to be demand for this type of service, and now there is.
 
Mendo_K said:
Thats what I thought exactly, they will try and appeal to the masses so make it some Hollywood blockbuster, Ross will be holed up in some cellar with 15 monitors with loud fast techno playing in the background, or something like that anyway. They have already got it wrong, they said that the website allowed people to hire assassins, so they are getting of to a good start.
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I have a feeling the film is more likely to be based on the work of the Feds rather than the life of Ulbricht. The lack of real life interaction involved seems like it would be tricky to make a good film without it being filled in mostly by what the FBI were doing behind the scenes.

Did anyone pick up on this though? A film about John MacAfee is already in the pipeline, the silkroad one is going to be based on a Wired article that's not yet been written, so we'll have to wait for the article to know really. The people they've assigned to making the film have made some decent films in the past.

http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/10/...eature-film-from-the-author-of-shutter-island
 
tweex said:
Damnit, first SR, now BMR. SMP is run by a guy with his head even farther up his ass about security, and BFM has all of like 100 listings.

What is the world of online drug sales coming to :\
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BMR is back onlibne, SR2.0 is almost done, a dozen other sites are already up...

BMR sells assault rifles, explosives etc thought I thought the FBi would have gone after them first..if they really cared about "terrorism", mind all this snooping is to protect us ... RIGHT!?!!?
 
The guns and explosives at BMR really freaks me out. I've read some vendors saying shit like "perfect for hiding underneath a trench coat." That's not cool. SR specifically chose not to do guns for good reason. I'm glad they didn't too.

What's of the deal with SR 2.0. I heard that SR came back up under that name already, and it turned out to be a scam. Is the new SR 2.0 the surviving admins from SR?
 
oldirtybizza said:
Currently with a state , who's preventing the rich from taking the wealth of the poor.
One could even argue that in America there is no state, but a corporate entity that manipulates the free market and social policies to solely benefit it's wealthy subsidiaries.
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i like the way you put that.
 
Seems like the Mr Big selling Heroin, Cocaine and Meth has been working with the FBI for a while, well since July. I remember reading somewhere he went offline due to having some problems, then he came back with the new additions of meth and coke, and his heroin was better than ever, maybe raided the FBI bust cabinet?

OCTOBER 21--One of the top narcotics dealers on Silk Road, the recently shuttered online drug bazaar, secretly began cooperating with federal agents after his Seattle-area home was raided in late-July, The Smoking Gun has learned.

The disclosure that Steven Sadler, known online as “Nod,” was flipped will likely cause significant distress for his large Silk Road customer base, which included retail and wholesale buyers of heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamine. Additionally, suppliers for Sadler, 40, will likely also be concerned that they have been exposed to law enforcement scrutiny.
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/silk-road-dealer-cooperating-567432

While Woods did not further detail Sadler’s cooperation, it appears likely that he would have been required to assist agents in the analysis of his computer data, customer lists, or financial records. In similar cases, agents have also assumed the identity of cooperators and, posing as the arrested individual, carried on online interactions with hoodwinked customers and suppliers.
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I never had the guts to 'buy' from SR I was way to bugged out but, id log on and look at it from time to time.
 
Lol!!!! Who do you think could afford to open a vendor account ? Rich junk heads .... And a lot of DEA / cops.

I hope the SR fans feel good supporting evil. I sure as hell went through the black market IN PERSON for a good fucking reason.
 
I don't begrudge the people who buy their drugs online. It's just that, there's something about actually coming across certain drugs in real life and coming into contact with the people that sell them and use them that gives you more of a realistic understanding of those drugs and the culture surrounding them....

It does annoy me a little bit people, the arrogance of some of the SR users on BL, fronting like they have these amazing drug connections, when in reality they don't have the social skills or street smarts to even hunt down a few grams of weed on their on their own!

Also, I don't believe that people should be prohibited from using drugs like cocaine or heroin, but when you're completely removed from the source of those drugs and everything that goes with them....IDK, I really start to think now that a lot of the posts I've seen in different forums here by obviously "younger people" saying they have access to X, Y and Z opiate and A, B, and C stimulant...I really think a percentage of those were teenagers who've never tried a hard drug in their life thinking about ordering them from SR...

By the time I was in a situation where drugs like cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine were being offered, I had already been around drugs for awhile and had a little more insight and wisdom about what I was actually getting involved with...
 
The one thing about sr was it looked like they had quality prods even tho the prices were very high. Ive gotten all sorts of stuff from various countries and many times its such low uality id say fuck that place. But from time to time you find a good reliable private guy in a smallish country that is discreet, inexpensive and has good product.
 
BlueHues said:
It does annoy me a little bit people, the arrogance of some of the SR users on BL, fronting like they have these amazing drug connections, when in reality they don't have the social skills or street smarts to even hunt down a few grams of weed on their on their own!
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Amen, which is funny because I used SR a decent amount. I knew what I was doing, but I never told people "dude, I have the best connect ever!" Or even worse the people on BL who say "I have pure, uncut, raw H, and I'm positive cause the vendor told me." HA! I got some product that was totally shit a couple times. Thing is, for reasons I can't get into, I can't really get anything in person other than psychs and weed. I also hate black tar, so SR was a good - though expensive - way to get "#4" heroin. SR was a lot more than drugs though. There was some other great shit too. I also did like the fact that they didn't sell weapons or anything else that could hurt anyone. When I briefly looked around on BMR I was shocked at how cavalier these weapons dealers are. Saying shit like "bullet will pass right through body armor, and you can hide the gun under a long jacket." Shit is not cool.
 
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