FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests owner

I'll take importing Dutch ecstasy from a reputable vendor on SR any day over going in person to my usual sources and risk buying the utter crap that's passed around as ecstasy in this country. Or rather, I would have.

The fact of the matter is that regardless of whether you prefer to buy your fix in person because it shows you have "street smarts" or whatever, or from the 'deep web' (or 'dark web'?) - you never know if you're dealing with someone who's been flipped, or an undercover pig. There may be an exception or two to this, such as your dealer being close friends or family (someone who'd warn you ahead of time somehow to not bother because the pigs are onto him/her), but that's about it.

What I know about "street smarts" is that you should never get too close to your dealer, or you just may end up locked away along with him/her. In other words, many years ago when my drugs of choice were more available than ever in my area, (long story short) after countless buys I thought I had a trustworthy relationship with one of my longtime sources. And in the end, I find out my source's spouse is an undercover pig. Now that's deep. Willing to get married just to bust the whole operation. Fucking swine. I consider myself either very lucky, or someone was looking out for me to have gotten away. And, unfortunately, to this day I have never seen nor heard from my former source again (and it's been quite a while).
 
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Captain.Heroin said:
Lol!!!! Who do you think could afford to open a vendor account ? Rich junk heads .... And a lot of DEA / cops.

I hope the SR fans feel good supporting evil. I sure as hell went through the black market IN PERSON for a good fucking reason.
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EPIC logic-fail, lol.
/at least you were able to trace your street-purchases to the source, and verify the wholesomeness all the way, right? ;)
 
ro4eva said:
And in the end, I find out my source's spouse is an undercover pig. Now that's deep. Willing to get married just to bust the whole operation. Fucking swine.
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That's probably the scariest thing I have ever heard.
 
That's nothing, and it's been going on for a long time.

Two undercover police officers secretly fathered children with political campaigners they had been sent to spy on and later disappeared completely from the lives of their offspring, the Guardian can reveal.

In both cases, the children have grown up not knowing that their biological fathers – whom they have not seen in decades – were police officers who had adopted fake identities to infiltrate activist groups. Both men have concealed their true identities from the children's mothers for many years.
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source
 
bmxxx said:
EPIC logic-fail, lol.
/at least you were able to trace your street-purchases to the source, and verify the wholesomeness all the way, right? ;)
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In a black market it's always impossible. Then there is a factor of how high up in a pyramid you can go. Clearly you are below the bottom rung, as is to be expected for the majority of BL'ers.
 
it would still be going on if it was kept to a place where people could buy rare psychedelics and things of that nature, not a place to cop your fix!

There were probably people chasing the mailman around in their pajamas asking if they had any mail for them! "You don't understand, I know you're not doing my house for a few hours, but I need that birthday card from my grandmother right fucking now!"
 
BlueHues said:
it would still be going on if it was kept to a place where people could buy rare psychedelics and things of that nature, not a place to cop your fix!

There were probably people chasing the mailman around in their pajamas asking if they had any mail for them! "You don't understand, I know you're not doing my house for a few hours, but I need that birthday card from my grandmother right fucking now!"
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that cracked me up.
 
knock said:
That's nothing, and it's been going on for a long time.



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That's just wrong on so many levels, but it's definitely believable. I truly feel sorry for the kids and their mothers (I didn't catch how long ago this happened, so if those kids are now adults, well, regardless I still pity them).
 
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bmxxx said:
CH- wtf?? I recall you seeming like good people; I'm not even offended, just confused.
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Normally the higher up you go the more inevitable death and addiction becomes; not too terribly unlike requiem for a dream minus all continuity errors. It's a compliment.

BlueHues said:
Have you completely lose your mind CH? Some of your posts are beginning to worry me....:?
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Going through withdrawal so playing devils advocate seems natural to me.
 
You'd think after the last bust and shut down they'd let the publicity die down not send some thing to vice.

Also idk why the have to been sheep into it
 
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Re: the issue of street vs online.

Because of the internet, I tried cannabis for the first time. I know its hard to believe, but I was into opioids long before I ever tried cannabis -- because I did not have access to it -- until I was able to order it online and was reassured by the fact that packaging methods foiled [no pun intended lol] x-ray/chromotography/animal detection and learned about probable cause and how truly difficult it is to detect controlled substances via USPS.

And theres the added benefit of user feedback for individual vendors. Shilling is always a possibility, but with SR-like setups, users can voice issues if a substance is adulterated with something - this also plays to harm reduction if a batch of heroin is extremely potent a user can indicate this in a review so hopefully other buyers titrate accordingly.

And a lot of people, myself included, are too paranoid to do face to face transactions. Internet vending or "Dealing" if you prefer eliminates the risk of violence especially vendor on vendor violence that is prevalent with street level culture.

When's the last time someone on street openly admitted their MDMA was 86% pure? Or their cocaine 75%? This is common with SR and sites like it, including sites that predated the Tor and Bitcoin era [not gonna name names obviously].
 
Mendo_K said:
Seems like the Mr Big selling Heroin, Cocaine and Meth has been working with the FBI for a while, well since July. I remember reading somewhere he went offline due to having some problems, then he came back with the new additions of meth and coke, and his heroin was better than ever, maybe raided the FBI bust cabinet?



http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/silk-road-dealer-cooperating-567432
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Did anyone else pick up on this? Steven Sadler AKA "Nod" is in Drugs inc Seattle, rather ironically as one of the fake names he used on those mailboxes "Edward - Heroin dealer" 25mins in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAhaSt7DRk

Sounds like he had some habbit. 1.5g of pure heroin a day. No surprise he flipped.
 
Yeah, im sure that black tar is pure
Because tar heroin makes it all the way to seattle without getting cut
I dont think of all people a white guy is gonna be getting 100% raw dope.
 
^It's a think they've been pushing for the last few years....they call it "pure"...It's better than regular tar, it's a different consistency, it's harder and more rock like..as opposed to soft...I'm sure it's not "pure", but I'm also pretty sure that a lot of the tar doesn't get cut very much, if at all before it hits the streets....the only mjor market for "tar" in the world is the west coast really...

It may very well be as pure as it gets for tar, which who knows what that percentage is....even from the source, many drugs aren't really even close to pure when produced....
 
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