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I always thought that all lsd is the same, just in different doses. The way I see it, the chemical structure and composition of lsd crystals are identical, no matter what recipe is used. It should make no difference, once you reach the end result of the crystals, it is identical. What the crystals are mixed with, the impurities it comes into contact with, the strength of the dose, and the blotter paper itself, and its inks, all play a part in then end.
The only bad acid is not enough of it, then its bad, otherwise, its all good, regardless of types, families, and all that jazz.
Any real 'family' people would never talk about or advertise too much, they would want to keep a low profile, I suspect there is a lot more 'dealer talk' going around these days, using that sort of jargon to increase sales.
Which would you buy, a regular tab at normal price, or the FAMILY one, for a little more?
 
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Any real 'family' people would never talk about or advertise too much, they would want to keep a low profile, I suspect there is a lot more 'dealer talk' going around these days, using that sort of jargon to increase sales.
Which would you buy, a regular tab at normal price, or the FAMILY one, for a little more?
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Agreed, I echo that sentiment in another current thread. Not really a matter of fact, but a logically very sound idea that I recommend people to play with for a while in order to get a little skeptical traction.
 
Threads like this make me want to run screaming from the world of drugs and never come back.

Insistience that you are "right" and everyone else is "wrong" because you "know you're right" is just... so... naive. LSD-25 is LSD-25 is LSD-25 the world around. Set and setting is probably a larger contributor to the trip, and is often discounted.

Yes, there are multiple ways of making LSD. Just like there are multiple ways of making MDMA, or ethanol, or polyvinyl chloride, or water. But the important thing to note is that almost all proper syntheses directed by a skilled chemist will have something called a workup - where the intermediates or final product is purified. The end result is a homogenous product that is comparable to natural materials. Most of the syntheses take the same synthetic routes and make the same impurities anyway!

If there are indeed active impurities that 'color' the trip differently, then they would have to be of the same or diminished potency of LSD, assuming a normal-sized dose is active... and that would mean a whole new class of ultrasuperpotent hallucinogens exists. I doubt this because I have yet to hear of it, and the clandestine world would hop right on it.
 
It's ok since there are not that many ways out of a logical argument: either we continue with attempts at counterarguments in the form of a bunch of bullshit that will make a number of users grow tired, so then it's quite enough and can be closed.
Or, we have already arrived at the end and its as good as closed anyway. I doubt there is any more interesting info to be expected from this but no reason to be premature.

Besides - perhaps someone has something very different to say about white fluff? There is a high dose LSD appreciation thread so I imagine high purity (AND high potency) product may be celebrated here. Haha!

Occasionally you hear something like 'when there was Sandoz around there was nothing like it'. Perhaps some other people don't really care about extremely high purities but then you can ask yourself if they ever had any awesome stuff. ;)
Personally I have heard that a lot of liquid acid found has a tendency to be of higher purity, a reason could be that liquid is usually distributed through less long and elaborate channels since it is harder to divide, the longer the chain, also the more degradation? Anyway I hear liquid can be pretty special.

Just rambling now I guess.
 
ok i can understand what you guys are saying.. but you your not understandings is this.. ok for example.. we have soda.. now we have coke, pepsi, almost the same, but its not.. then we have orange and grape.. still soda but different from the others.

Now we have Lsd.. yes lsd-25 is lsd-25 i'm not arguing that.. but Fluff is a different chemical structer then Lsd-25.. but they are both Lsd.. just like silver is a different recipe and amber is a different recipe... they are all Lsd yes.. but different

I'm not the average dummy coming on here talking shit or thinking i'm the king of shit.. but quite the opposite.. i'm trying to teach you guys/kids whats up.

I know theres a few of you out there that know i'm right.. please speak up with your input on what i just said

peace love and all the above mad love to to brother from a different mother and maybe the same father who know and who care we spent years and years shed many tears but now its time kid no fears.. show love to everyone who show me it.. even to thos who hate Peace.. open your mind open your heart.. we as a people have to let our egos go before we blow our soul into a black hole

Solipsis..please dont close this.. i'm legit..ask bearlove.. trust me the chemical compunds of Fluff and LSD25 are different..thats what i'm trying to say..its not about potentcy
 
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No fluff is not a different structure, maybe you are thinking of orange sunshine which was supposed to be ALD-52 which IS indeed a different compound with a different recipe.

Your analogy with soda does not make sense since soda is a mixture of multiple chemicals while a pure compound is only 1 single chemical. A mixture cannot be pure, that is logically impossible.

What structure do you believe fluff has? Scour the internet, I assure you you will not find it because you are ill informed. I'm ok if you are just wasting my time, I am watching a movie anyway. :) Remember you are wasting your own time as well, if you are in fact fucking around.
If you care to reply to the thread I expect you to have a chem structure for me.

Considering the fact that things like LSP and LSB apparently exist, there is it seems the off chance that you are right which would be wonderfully surprising to me and the 10 or 20 posters in this thread, most of which you seem to make cry and scream in outrage. LSP / LSB are reported to have slightly superior qualities than LSD so it would fit. But I never heard the association with the term fluff before, but instead encountered that post by chinacat countless times where fluff is just listed as high potency LSD.

If you are right, you somehow possess very special information that is opposed to common knowledge. Think about it: the chance is just much bigger that you got your facts from someone who mixed up two phenomena. Perhaps on purpose perhaps not.
 
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1- i'm not waisting your time.. and in time..others will back me up on this.

2-my analogy of soda does make sence from a certain point of view. Lsd.. whether it's fluff..lsd25..silver or amber.. all have a mixture of chemicals to produce that compound. LSD is not a pure compound..nowhere on earth is it found.. its chemicly produced..therfore processed.

How can i show you the chemical compound of fluff when i'm i'm trying to tell everyone..1st fluff was a secret..the recipe was never let out..i'm not sure if whoever made it died or got caught or what.. but what i do know its chemicaly different then lsd-25

I'm here to spred Love not Lies.. i'm about the Light..a soldier of rightousness..no darkness no shadyness no lies no deceit..just that pure Love that comes from the heart and shines from the souL
 
The chemical structure is the same with all LSD. If it were different it wouldn't be LSD. Purity is the only difference. This isn't because a different recipe/synthesis is used, but how well the end product is cleaned. Just like any other chemical in its pure form.

Why do you feel the need to teach us? Many of us could have more experience than you. They way you are talking about this is belittling.

Also LSD is all over the place. It is pretty available. My body doesn't differentiate between different batches.
 
your right..to a certain extent..i shouldnt be teaching anyone or trying to..thanks for showing me the humbleness..

Gut i will still argue anyday that Fuff is a different recipe has a different chemical structure then Lsd25 thats why is has a totally different trip
 
There's no such thing as "family fluff". Your posts are full of unsourced urban myth bullshit. Let's see some evidence supporting your theories. Stop listening to what LSD dealers tell you, as it's always a lie.
 
Also you probably cant tell the difference between the strains 1- maybe you dont know about the different strains of L 2- you abused it and other drugs. 3- you just never thought about it.. the mind is wonderous..plecebo plays a big part....

people are taking RC's thinking its real L come on bro

people are taking Rc's thinkinh its mdma

alot of people cant tell thier ass from thier elbows.

I'm sorry but i' gonna stick my by statement..they are legit, real and true

its still a chemical structure thats makes it what it is

and the different structures will make a different molecule..still lsd..just different..with diffferent affects on us
 
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No. Your chemistry is off. Which makes your whole argument invalid. Plain and simple.

Chemistry is where this all begins and you have it wrong. LSD didn't come along and apply new rules to this science.
 
Can you at the very least find/link/show us what the chemical structure is of 'Fluff' so we can compare it to the chemical structure of LSD-25? That would be most helpful in your argument.
 
even if my chemistry is off..so what i'm not a chemist... but what i'm saying about the fluff L25 silver and other strains of Lsd are true i'm sorry
 
It's not a strain. That applies to genetics.

You should continue this over in the Philosophy thread debating whether or not molecules are alive. You might get more people who agree with you over there.
 
Ok so you just stated your NOT a chemist, yet your trying to tell us how Fluff is different from LSD-25.

Im sorry but reading your babbelings leads me to say one thing.

NSFW:
GTFO
 
this is the exact reason why people hate when i say i can get the pure moonrock..because people just wanna hate..or dont believe//or think whatever thier friends tell them or what they read in a forum is true.

I know i'm right.. so whatever..people can hate all they want.. but the truth will be revealed and every will owe me an apoligy
 
The truth will be revealed eh? Because EVERYONE as access to family fluff right? So that must mean everyone in this thread is going to say sorry?

Your ignorance is overshadowing any point you are trying to make

also im not doubting that you can get pure moonrock, a lot of people can get pure rocks. Tho pure lsd is a bit harder to come by for some than it is mdma.
 
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