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Focus on Magic

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The safe will open again. I know that most people probably never tried the real deal Fluff.. especially with all the RC's out now, everyone is laying paper with these maybe known(maybe unknown) chemicals.

honestly you's be lucky to get your hands on some clean L25.. shit you'd be lucky to get your hands on some clean silver.

What i'm trying to get at here is.. there is nothing like the Pure family Fluff.. the menatal clarity.. the body(almost e like ) high.. the clean visuals, especially when it gets dark.. wow.. and you people are really settling for these unknown RC's.. really?

Just to let you know.. there is only so much fluff that gets let out every year or so.. honestly i'm pretty sure they cant make it anymore because the recipe has beeen lost. but the word from the sky's sun is that there is a stockpile stored and every so often a little gets released. So there is hope yet for those who never tried it.

Oh and whatever you do..please dont go around asking for it..you wont get it..just chill and let it come to you. :)

*just because someone has white paper dosn't mean its fluff..it could be anything.. so if someone is promoting they got fluff.. i can pretty much guarantee its not Fluff.. because those who have the real Fluff do not..i repeat..do not promote it and 7 out of 10 times probably wont sell any.

Just a little food for thought.

magic :)

Hmm 21 views and not 1 response. i guess knowone knows what fluff is lol
 
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^wrong....if you have a good circle of people than fluff isn't a hard commodity to come by.

and i am talking Phamily here, so yes i (and some others) know about real deal fluff.
 
I'm sorry , but to say i'm wrong, is wrong. Can you honestly tell me that the real deal family fluff is readily available with a steady supply? If your in the cirlce you say you are..then you should know there's a limited supply.. unless someone secretly has the recipe.. which i doubt because i do know it has been lost.. unless i'm being mislead which is possible, but i dont think so.

But be honest..whats better then the FLuff?

Dam i'm a hyopcrite... i'm always going on about organic this organic that ..fuk man made shit.. and now i'm praising the FLuff.. i'm sorry but yes.. the fluff IS that GOOD :)
 
speaking of bunk shit, check out this thread.
i somehow doubt that "The recipe has been lost"
it shocks me that you would even type
if you had so little of value to say.

That said, yes, it appears there is an LSD drought right now.
 
SEE..this is what i'm talking about.. i'm sorry bro..and i'm not trying to be an ass.. but you have no clue what your talking about.

Fluff is a special L recipe that was made and then lost.. its top of the line.. as far as man made shit is concerned.

there are about 5-6 different L recipes..maybe more
 
once again..your wrong..

just like those who claim mdma is mdma is mdma... they are also wrong

there are different recipes for L

And as far as the mdma.. not all mdma is created equal.. some maybe not processed correctly.. some may not have been cleaned properly.. someone maybe have used a substite chemical in the process therefore distorting the quality of the mdma.

so ..NO not all..lsd is not lsd is not lsd

and no.. not all mdma is mdma is mdma.. i'm sorry
 
uuhhhhhhh
other than adjusting for purity, MDMA is MDMA (long as we're talking racemic MDMA, which 99.9999999% of all MDMA is, [i could be wrong..but i doubt it...])
not cleaning it properly just means it might look different, smell a little more and be of slightly lower purity.
LSD is LSD is LSD is LSD, assuming we're talking about pure L.
 
Focus on Magic said:
once again..your wrong..

just like those who claim mdma is mdma is mdma... they are also wrong

there are different recipes for L

And as far as the mdma.. not all mdma is created equal.. some maybe not processed correctly.. some may not have been cleaned properly.. someone maybe have used a substite chemical in the process therefore distorting the quality of the mdma.

so ..NO not all..lsd is not lsd is not lsd

and no.. not all mdma is mdma is mdma.. i'm sorry
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You are so fucking wrong it's ridiculous... the only difference this "FLUFF" could have from regular LSD-25 is that it has higher purity than most street LSD. LSD-25 IS LSD-25, period. There is pure LSD and there is weak LSD, you can reach the same state with either by adjusting dose properly. The only people who will agree with you are retarded old hippies.
 
you both wrong.. i'm sorry.. someone please back me up here. There's Lsd-25 theres silver crystal Lsd.. theres amber crystal Lsd and there are a couple more.. yea they are all Lsd but different.. so once again.. Lsd is not LSD is NOt LSd

And about the mdma is mdma is mdma.. no i'm sorry.. if that where the case.. then every roll would feel the same.. not ALL MDMA IS MADE THE SAME QUALITY.. i dont understand how people dont get that.. it could be off a little,. they could of fucked up a little..might still test as MDMA but its not.. i'm sorry

You are so fucking wrong it's ridiculous... the only difference this "FLUFF" could have from regular LSD-25 is that it has higher purity than most street LSD. LSD-25 IS LSD-25, period. There is pure LSD and there is weak LSD, you can reach the same state with either by adjusting dose properly. The only people who will agree with you are retarded old hippies.

i'm sorry but your wrong about that.. fluff is a totally different recipe the L25
 
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You're not acknowledging the counterpoints being made. The acid or MDMA you buy ranges in purity, which makes it feel different. Pure LSD is pure LSD. It doesn't matter exactly which recipe is being used, as long as you end up with pure LSD, it will be pure LSD.
 
Well I've had excellent quality high dosed acid and on the low other end I have had 50 ug ones (yes in my country you can get them tested for free anonymously) which is not really that low at all. But the print was hofmann so I guess you never know. Admittedly the first one I got, as a gift by the way, was bunk. That was at a time when I had very few connections at all that could get interesting substances.

My point in all this is that in the social circles I have been in where acid flowed quite freely there was never use of the terminology I come across a lot on the internet. I guess a lot of it is about where you live and the terminology revolving around the 'Family' / the Dead / etc is American.

There is also more talk about it when people really try to praise their product, I'm positive that in some circles there is a lot of focus on the 'print' and claims about the purity and potency that make use of some keywords as sort of a verbal 'certificate of verification' or 'certificate of origin'. When I got to know more people from across the world there was also more use of these words. They refer to some classic and universal values from the LSD world and help establish that people know their shit and are not fooling around.

It is also logical that some people would make it up to give their stuff extra credit, for whatever reason - money or reputation or otherwise. With the extra built-in sensitivity to placebo this works remarkably well with LSD so it's not all bad. But it's not all true either.

There is WoW: white of white i.e. white fluff (HQ) on white paper, unperforated blank blotter. Some of it is actually of superior quality and potency but other stuff may just vary as much as any given other acid, especially given the fact that thick white paper is easier to come by than blotter art. But on the other hand there are advantages to white paper: it is not instantly recognized as LSD and therefore more low-profile.

I have WoW but did not try it yet. I have a good feeling that it is really very good, my reasons being that I won it instead of buy it and the source was a reputable collector of different 'sorts' of acid and a connoisseur. It came laminated to prevent degradation.

If someone starts to me about 'fluff' then I react the same as with someone who has Hofmanns: unimpressed in any positive nor negative way until I get more reasons to add to some verification. I usually don't have to deal with any verification (it's not particularly necessary either normally) because it is a chain of trust passed down from friends. Also drug quality standards have been fairly high most of the time anyway so I have never worried all that much if I got anything decent. Some Hofmanns were the best I ever had, some were the worst. I stopped caring about appearances a while ago, some of you could do the same.

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And about this dispute you have going on, it's a matter of semantics so no wonder you are going on about it. You can all be right depending on how you interpret the 'sameness' of the LSD.

LSD is LSD is LSD indeed when talking about 100% pure LSD, but 100% does not exist just like a temperature of absolute zero does not exist. You can come so close that in all practicality it really does not matter anymore and if pharmaceutical LSD were still around and really available then they would probably indistinguishable from each other because the impurities are so small.

We don't live in a world of absolute purities, when it comes to illegal drugs there are some that are mainly produced using similar syntheses (which we will not go into) but off the top of my head meth is an example of that having a very popular synthesis but also a few alternative more rare ones. MDMA has a lot more variation in how its made or from what precursor it was started. I think LSD generally comes from ergotamine but the actual recipes are probably in multitude, I am not sure personally but it could be 6.

But I don't think it really matters because if the last steps are the same then the impurities are pretty much the same namely the starting products or byproducts of the last bit of it. A few impurities are usually mentioned with LSD like iso-LSD, although there is no real certainty on what influences they have on the subjective experiences that result from them.

I think the difference in impurity with LSD is mostly a quantitative one and not qualitative but if you got really sucky stuff that might not be true anymore.

So please stop going back and forth about who is right and wrong without elaborating what you mean exactly. Otherwise the debate is just incomplete.
 
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you are so much cooler than the rest of us Focus enlighten us about your bullshit "fluff". God your motives are so fucking obvious it makes me sick
 
Whats my motive?

these people are trying to tell me all lsd is tha same.. thats totally wrong

there are about 7 different recipes for different typrs of Lsd..yea thier all lsd.. so tosome extent they are right from a certain view.. but these different recipes give you different trips so therefore.. Not all lsd is the same.. lsd is not lsd is not lsd.. once again i'm sorry

i know i'm right.. i dont care what anyone says..i know my shit
 
Let's use an analogy.

Pure H2O is pure H2O. However, not all water is the same, which is your point. Some water can be brown, some water can be yellow. This is the result of contamination, IE- there are other things in the liquid besides H2O. But pure H20 is H2O is H2O.

Your experience with LSD can be explained in a similar way. One blotter can be stronger than another or have a slightly different feel to it. This isn't because there are different kinds of LSD-25, it's because some blotters have more LSD on them than others, the blotter could have impurities, or it could be that it isn't even LSD.

If your end result is absolutely pure LSD, it won't matter which recipe was used to make it as you ended up with pure LSD. LSD is LSD.
 
@OP/focus:
You are saying that if the product of synthesis (recipe) A producing LSD #A is purified that the product is different than when synthesis B is used yielding LSD marked #B ?

It is a fundamental law of chemistry that if the compounds are pure they are the same. Because there is no other quality to it than the identity of it i.e. the structural formula of the molecule.

If you disagree with this you just do not understand chemistry, you can take that from someone who did Chemistry at the Uni. What you would be talking about is something that is part of homeopathy theory. People who believe that believe that you can imprint pure water with an emotion, making it different from purified water imprinted with another emotion. All experiments done on that have proven that that is untrue, a hoax / a lie. Sorry, deal with it. They put that bullshit in the film 'What the bleep do we know', as if the experiment were replicated and verified. Which it is not. It's nonsense, they just picked different pictures of water samples.

If you care to reply to this I think you should explain WHAT you think is different about samples that are made differently or imprinted differently. Saying that the subjective experience is different is not enough because placebo can easily account for that. Ball is in your court, Focus.
 
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