qwe
Bluelight Crew
then i'll be pragmatic instead
don't snitch, so that your head doesn't get kicked in
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Explain why it is wrong to snitch.
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don't snitch, so that your head doesn't get kicked in
qwe
Bluelight Crew
DocLucid said:
i believe you missed the point of his interest...
DocLucid
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how exactly did i miss the point of his (her) interest?
and yes, physical violence, im sure, is one of the greatest deterrents to "snitching." i think that only highlights my point though - drugs are a selfish business and everyone involved knows the risks.
as expected, im getting some angry responses lol.. but i am neither advocating for or arguing against "snitching." im merely pointing out the fact that with drugs its all relative.. and it's absurd to try to apply moral standards to a situation that is, at best, morally ambiguous.
and yes, physical violence, im sure, is one of the greatest deterrents to "snitching." i think that only highlights my point though - drugs are a selfish business and everyone involved knows the risks.
as expected, im getting some angry responses lol.. but i am neither advocating for or arguing against "snitching." im merely pointing out the fact that with drugs its all relative.. and it's absurd to try to apply moral standards to a situation that is, at best, morally ambiguous.
jackie jones
Bluelight Crew
Perhaps we need a thread on the topic of who in our perspective societies deserves to be punished....
I do not see why someone who sells drugs to adults (or one who possesses drugs, for the matter) is in the wrong. We are talking about prohibition versus personal freedom here. There are drugs, and there are behaviors. Drugs do not directly cause behaviors. Once we collectively get over this fear of chemicals, we can address real problems.
We constantly read news articles to the effect of "Drive-by shooting in -suchandsuch- area, one dead, three injured." or "Woman raped, suspect still not found". Why are these people getting away? Because the police are on the other side of town trying to bust someone for selling pain meds....
Another example: "Drunk driver kills mother of three." The drunk driver may very well preferred to indulge in a joint instead of alcohol, but alas, cannabis is illegal.
I do not see why someone who sells drugs to adults (or one who possesses drugs, for the matter) is in the wrong. We are talking about prohibition versus personal freedom here. There are drugs, and there are behaviors. Drugs do not directly cause behaviors. Once we collectively get over this fear of chemicals, we can address real problems.
We constantly read news articles to the effect of "Drive-by shooting in -suchandsuch- area, one dead, three injured." or "Woman raped, suspect still not found". Why are these people getting away? Because the police are on the other side of town trying to bust someone for selling pain meds....
Another example: "Drunk driver kills mother of three." The drunk driver may very well preferred to indulge in a joint instead of alcohol, but alas, cannabis is illegal.
desaparecidos
Bluelighter
code of the streets "snitches get stitches" even i know that and im the whitest kid ever
Outta Pocket
Bluelighter
Simple. Because I wouldn't want it done to me. "Do unto others..." and so forth.
That isn't just idealism on my part; in the past I was fucked over by a rat, and I could have turned rat, however that is absolutely not who I am. No regrets, if put in that position again my answer would still be "fuck you".
That isn't just idealism on my part; in the past I was fucked over by a rat, and I could have turned rat, however that is absolutely not who I am. No regrets, if put in that position again my answer would still be "fuck you".
qwe
Bluelight Crew
^ this guy has courage wolf's testicles
murders and rapists are getting away because drugs are illegal? lol that statement is absolutely ridiculous.
Only one i can think of is that; for example. It is truly endangering the welfare of a child. How i was raised...you don't rat. Now if someone murdered someone and they are trying to pin it on me i would cooperate. That is different though.
Always saw it as my crime is my crime, their crime is their crime. Even though I had taken the rap for a friend to keep him going back to the joint..
Interesting thread
Always saw it as my crime is my crime, their crime is their crime. Even though I had taken the rap for a friend to keep him going back to the joint..
Interesting thread
silvercrimson
Bluelighter
snitching is fucking wrong. youre either on one side of the fence or your on the other. plain and simple, theres no going in between, and theres no gray areas. remember when little kim went to jail? she went to jail for NOT snitching. somethings wrong with that picture. NOT snitching. snitches to me are people with chartruse colored t-shirts that read- PLEASE KILL ME SLOWLY. in the meantime somebodys life has been turned upside down and backwards, all because of a fucknig snitch, who couldnt keep his/her mouth shut.
jackie jones
Bluelight Crew
kabump
DavisK4high247
Bluelighter
Snitching is wrong unless in the case of knowing someone is molesting or abusing a child o raping and killing innocent people. Otherwise most snitches are themselves drug users who snitch on another drug user rather than spend a month or a year in jail for something they knew the risks involved for to begin with.
Snitching by setting up someone who also uses coke for example after being busted with a gram of crack or coke and then calling up another person who is not even a dealer,but can get an ounce or something of crack , but only does so to help someone else out and get some free drugs, then having them bring by an ounce of coke or crack or something becasue a person does not want to be a damn grown ass person and take the penaltys for their own actions and makes the other person bringing them the ounce of crack a felon with intent to distribute or deliever ,and they get 10-15+ years maybe instead of the person caugh with the gram of crack getting probation maybe a 6 month stint in county jail or rehab. They would rather ruin another persons life than do some rehab or serve some county time...snitches are a dying breed!
Snitching by setting up someone who also uses coke for example after being busted with a gram of crack or coke and then calling up another person who is not even a dealer,but can get an ounce or something of crack , but only does so to help someone else out and get some free drugs, then having them bring by an ounce of coke or crack or something becasue a person does not want to be a damn grown ass person and take the penaltys for their own actions and makes the other person bringing them the ounce of crack a felon with intent to distribute or deliever ,and they get 10-15+ years maybe instead of the person caugh with the gram of crack getting probation maybe a 6 month stint in county jail or rehab. They would rather ruin another persons life than do some rehab or serve some county time...snitches are a dying breed!
Tunnelfission
Bluelighter
I would never want to cause an urk, I don't want to make waves, I want everybody to be free.
If I would be offered a lifetime supply of resources in exchange for selling someone out I would simply rather go to my friends illegal party instead and live on a risk.
also whoever would nark me out would feel the very bitterest of my wrath for doing something that I claim to be inhuman... let your sisters and brothers be. human nature is what were all doing and judging it is always from just another perspective, it's only wrong if you get caught by those who disapprove, the whole thing is messed up! It grows, I eat. what motives does the law have?
If I would be offered a lifetime supply of resources in exchange for selling someone out I would simply rather go to my friends illegal party instead and live on a risk.
also whoever would nark me out would feel the very bitterest of my wrath for doing something that I claim to be inhuman... let your sisters and brothers be. human nature is what were all doing and judging it is always from just another perspective, it's only wrong if you get caught by those who disapprove, the whole thing is messed up! It grows, I eat. what motives does the law have?
SuperPump250
Bluelighter
Snitches get Stitches.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
^So the reason snitching is wrong is that someone will hurt you if they know you did it? If that is the only reason than snitching is OK unless someone finds out it was you, right?
webbykevin
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Just don't snitch on anyone for anything, if you do you are the scum of the earth and i hope you get raped in jail.
Cohesion
Bluelighter
I turned in stolen baseball gloves ($500/apiece) and a camcorder after my Ex was picked up for shoplifting. The reason I took them in was to prevent a raid in my father's house (he'd have put me out). A friend of the Ex's home was raided; I sensed that I was next. The Ex was discussing illegal things on the phone with me. A raid in my father's home is not an option.
In SOME sense, (I know this is going to create hatred) I "snitched" on my Ex when he OD'd on IV Phentanyl:
The 911 operator immediately asked me what he had taken, etc. etc. and I was scared like hell, making sure he was breathing at least every 30 seconds. I just answered the Q's. Then, I didn't throw the rig or the patch away. I didn't touch anything. Now he faces 2 felonies for the 2 items! It sucks because it is IMO not a jail-worthy crime, of course, BUT this guy has a 2 year old and is making awful life choices. Thus, he needs to go through some rough shit for a few. It may be arrogant of me to make that call (what someone else needs to do) but it's my daughter's dad. When she sees him nodding out, the cutest voice announces: "Seepy" (sleepy) or "sad".
AND just a few hours ago I called the cops on him! He stole my computer and was all about threatening me and even grabbed me. WHY? I didn't want to have sex with him. I didn't want to press any charges, but I definitely thought that he should have a chat with the cops. Again, who am I to say?
I don't mind involving cops if he's gone extremely off the hook. Because he is the father of my daughter. He has been incarcerated, is making poor choices currently, and IMO a little one-to-one with a cop (frequently) keeps him from forgetting that people have boundaries, and that children are not an experiment. So adults must logically choose their words and actions. He needs to learn the value of his society's "common" values and rules.
In SOME sense, (I know this is going to create hatred) I "snitched" on my Ex when he OD'd on IV Phentanyl:
The 911 operator immediately asked me what he had taken, etc. etc. and I was scared like hell, making sure he was breathing at least every 30 seconds. I just answered the Q's. Then, I didn't throw the rig or the patch away. I didn't touch anything. Now he faces 2 felonies for the 2 items! It sucks because it is IMO not a jail-worthy crime, of course, BUT this guy has a 2 year old and is making awful life choices. Thus, he needs to go through some rough shit for a few. It may be arrogant of me to make that call (what someone else needs to do) but it's my daughter's dad. When she sees him nodding out, the cutest voice announces: "Seepy" (sleepy) or "sad".
AND just a few hours ago I called the cops on him! He stole my computer and was all about threatening me and even grabbed me. WHY? I didn't want to have sex with him. I didn't want to press any charges, but I definitely thought that he should have a chat with the cops. Again, who am I to say?
I don't mind involving cops if he's gone extremely off the hook. Because he is the father of my daughter. He has been incarcerated, is making poor choices currently, and IMO a little one-to-one with a cop (frequently) keeps him from forgetting that people have boundaries, and that children are not an experiment. So adults must logically choose their words and actions. He needs to learn the value of his society's "common" values and rules.
Cohesion
Bluelighter
Sorry, but I have one thing to add to justify my open & readiness to bring the cops into this.
He does things in front of a 2 year old that are absolutely unacceptable (mainly drugs & yelling angry curse words at me). I even have a picture he took that shows the child at the table, her hand reaching for his "pill crusher" (a ceramic lid); left-over chunks of white drugs are clearly visible.
I'm interested to hear another view from you BL'ers, bounce it out here, some food for thought, perhaps a challenge or deflate my logic. I'm interested as this situation is way heavy, and I've never explored it with any other mind but my own. What's your first impression?
Time to play! Never been afraid to say what's on my mind at any given time of day- cause I'm ...
He does things in front of a 2 year old that are absolutely unacceptable (mainly drugs & yelling angry curse words at me). I even have a picture he took that shows the child at the table, her hand reaching for his "pill crusher" (a ceramic lid); left-over chunks of white drugs are clearly visible.
I'm interested to hear another view from you BL'ers, bounce it out here, some food for thought, perhaps a challenge or deflate my logic. I'm interested as this situation is way heavy, and I've never explored it with any other mind but my own. What's your first impression?
Time to play! Never been afraid to say what's on my mind at any given time of day- cause I'm ...