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Explain why it is wrong to snitch.

ahaha no clichez people :) Rip Raw! be smart, don't get caught. Do wat u Need to, but make sure u keep your beliefs in proper check, no one likez a hippie. And if u tadel a little tale u might end up gone or worse. How fair is that on ur family, friendz, kidz ect . ur a slave, tortured, Dead. hey u'll probably get away with it. :PEACELOVEHARMONEY
 
qwe said:
the cartels are NOT going to compete with walmart
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Things aren't so simple unfortunately. Just because something is legal does not mean that access will be easy or plentiful.

Don't some Walmarts have pharmacies? That means you can already get opiates, amphetamines, etc.... with a doctors note.
 
Don't some Walmarts have pharmacies? That means you can already get opiates, amphetamines, etc.... with a doctors note
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without a doctors note. if the prescription system is still setup to benefit corporations, then maybe cartels will still compete with walmart

but if we truly legalize, and allow people to manufacture/grow/sell,

the cartels will be gone within months. there is no way they could compete with what corps would setup
 
qwe said:
without a doctors note. if the prescription system is still setup to benefit corporations, then maybe cartels will still compete with walmart

but if we truly legalize, and allow people to manufacture/grow/sell,

the cartels will be gone within months. there is no way they could compete with what corps would setup
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They should just sell it for cheaper on the Mexican side....
Fuck wall mart.... Viva Mexico ;)
 
I don't think it's right to put anyone in prison because I think prison is wrong and I don't think prisons should exist, although I do perhaps believe involuntary correctional facilities should, but certainly not for drug users. I'm also terrified of police and I would never voluntarily talk to one.
 
qwe said:
without a doctors note. if the prescription system is still setup to benefit corporations, then maybe cartels will still compete with walmart

but if we truly legalize, and allow people to manufacture/grow/sell,

the cartels will be gone within months. there is no way they could compete with what corps would setup
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Exactly why I said it depends on the accessibility :p
 
If you are a drug user, the government has declared war on you and your associates. Almost everyone is a criminal, since just about everyone smokes cannabis or drives under the influence of ethanol or prescription drugs. Law enforcement has made it a priority to apply random searches at checkpoints, drug sniffing dogs and machines, etc. within our borders to randomly arrest drug users and drinkers.

In this openly hostile environment, as a drug user or occasional drinker & driver (don't even pretend the majority of people don't drink and drive) you should be doing everything you can to work against the police and prosecutors who are out to ruin you and your friends' and family's lives. Snitching is traitorous to our side in the war on drugs.
 
Coolio said:
If you are a drug user, the government has declared war on you and your associates. Almost everyone is a criminal, since just about everyone smokes cannabis or drives under the influence of ethanol or prescription drugs. Law enforcement has made it a priority to apply random searches at checkpoints, drug sniffing dogs and machines, etc. within our borders to randomly arrest drug users and drinkers.

In this openly hostile environment, as a drug user or occasional drinker & driver (don't even pretend the majority of people don't drink and drive) you should be doing everything you can to work against the police and prosecutors who are out to ruin you and your friends' and family's lives. Snitching is traitorous to our side in the war on drugs.
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Drink driving aint cool. Ill happily narc or call the cops on one.

The way i see it, the way i see everything, is - Do what you want, as long as its not going to, or can, hurt innocent people.

Me doing a trip at my house? Not gonna hurt others - good
Me smoking a joint at the beach? Not gonna hurt others - good
Me drink/trip driving? Possibly will hurt others - bad
 
>>Drink driving aint cool. Ill happily narc or call the cops on one.>>

what they do to you is pretty bad (going through the legal grinder can really disrupt everything) but i understand you're looking at a worse alternative (car crashes)

one of my friends that i havent spoke to in a while (donno if he still drinks, he's always attempting to quit) and his cousin drove drunk enough that it made me cautious about being in their car.. i did what i could but sometimes "you've got to get a pack of cigs and you happen to be drunk, i can focus down to the station" is that a satisfactory explanation? existentially maybe :P
 
qwe said:
>>Drink driving aint cool. Ill happily narc or call the cops on one.>>

what they do to you is pretty bad (going through the legal grinder can really disrupt everything) but i understand you're looking at a worse alternative (car crashes)

one of my friends that i havent spoke to in a while (donno if he still drinks, he's always attempting to quit) and his cousin drove drunk enough that it made me cautious about being in their car.. i did what i could but sometimes "you've got to get a pack of cigs and you happen to be drunk, i can focus down to the station" is that a satisfactory explanation? existentially maybe :P
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Not to be bad buzz but..

Theres no exception to driving drunk being a terrible thing. Ill tell you bl'rs what i told my mates one night.

So, we were all in a big ass van or drinking and shit and we had a sober driver. We got on the subject of drink driving and i noticed everyone was all liek 'yeah its so bs, you lose your license for 6 months' and how 'unfair' it was and all this crap.

And they were like like 'YEAH!' and shit and then i said ''Yeah man DRINK DRIVING IS ALL GOOD till you get a phone call/visit from cops that informs you that your mum or best mate or whoever has been killed by a drunk driver 'just going to get a pack of cigs down the road'.''

The whole van went quiet and everyone 'for some odd reason' decided drink driving wasnt so cool anymore.

For me personally, just knowing how many innocent people have been killed by drunk drivers is enough to make me absolutely despise anyone who does it.
 
What about all the innocent people who were killed by sober drivers?
 
Coolio said:
What about all the innocent people who were killed by sober drivers?
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Broad question.

Someone is always accountable. If your tyre falls off, its your mechanic. If your texting, its you.

Generally though, my beef is that drink driving increases your risk of crashing so greatly that its just not worth it, ever.

I am just as against texting while driving or talking on the phone.

People need to wake the fuck up. It always seems to take a horrible crash that kills a loved one for peolpe to get there act together. Im not one of those people. I can learn from the mistakes others make. I have been in a car crash, as a passenger. Entirely the other drivers fault(tow truck driver doing 3 point turn in middle of road around blind corner at 10pm with no street lights and without his lights on).

I dont need to lose a loved one to know that when a 1-2tonne piece of machiney is operating and driving at 40-60mph, YOU NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION.

But ultimately: If you kill someone with your vehicle, and its not from exterior reasons(they run in front of your car, traffic lights fuck up) then you should be held accountable for atleast man-slaughter(accidental murder). If you were drinking and it happened, you should be held accountable for murder.
 
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MynameisnotDeja said:
Exactly. There is no "right" and "wrong" really other than opinion.
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Well, isn't there an objective and quantifiable degree of morality or righteousness behind every action -- but one that is impossible to prove? If there weren't, what would be the point of attempting to approximate one in your own opinion?


There are two classes of "opinion". One resembles an undeniable truth about the state of one's own subjective perceptions: "strawberry is my favorite flavor of ice cream" relays the information that eating strawberry ice cream stimulates a stronger neurological reward than vanilla, or any other flavor.

The other definition of an "opinion" is a controversial speculation about the state of objective reality: the answer to the question "What is the best approach to reviving our declining economy?" is considered an opinion, because, although one of any two given proposals would truthfully be more effective than the other (as measured by GDP), making a confident determination of the best approach is totally impossible without a magic crystal ball.

An opinion about righteousness of a human act falls under the second category. However, it is a foray into a realm of reality that is far more elusive than gross domestic product.
 
Coolio said:
And if one has been drinking and no accident occurs; who is accountable for what?
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Reckless driving. Endangering the publics lives. Attempted murder.

Take your pick? The latter would be what i would have in force, if it was up to me.
 
Who is the victim in any of those potential crimes you just listed?
 
Are you referring to the concept of a 'victimless crime'? "The State" is a fictitious entity whose rights cannot possibly be more important than the individual's. Until there is an actual victim, punishing people for taking risks is more unethical than taking said risks.
 
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