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Heroin Experimenting with heroin

Great another "Talk the person out of heroin thread." we haven't had one of these in so long. >_>
 
I did address that possibility in another heroin thread....

Of course that changes the likelihood for addiction, I know that. But the chances of me coming across a source.... I know they are very slim and I'm not actively searching. Where I live it's not like I can walk down the street and find someone on the sidewalk, as there isn't any sidewalk lol. It would very hard to find a source, I know of no one who would mess with heroin honestly.

Hah. You're telling me theres no even semi-city around you, even a couple hours drive from you? That excuse doesn't work man. Plenty of people in small towns and shit get addicted to that crap because after a certain point, they just start driving incredibly far to get their shit if they have to. But, I'm not going to argue with you.. if you say you're "never" going to have that chance then fine. You're lucky. But I've heard your exact story 100 times.
 
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I had no close supplier, or a car at the time...

I got one last bag once. I spent the next 8 months driving to NYC (6hrs) for a few bundles a week. Be careful, and stop while its easy. I eventually kicked for years, only to recently get caught back up in pills. Opes will haunt you... Even after you think you SLAYED the dragon.
 
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Hah. You're telling me theres no even semi-city around you, even a couple hours drive from you? That excuse doesn't work man. Plenty of people in small towns and shit get addicted to that crap because after a certain point, they just start driving incredibly far to get their shit if they have to. But, I'm not going to argue with you.. if you say you're "never" going to have that chance then fine. You're lucky. But I've heard your exact story 100 times.

Well don't worry, I have zero interest in heroin after trying a single stamp last night. BARELY got any high, and it was filled with anxiety. Stamp was like half the weight I was expecting too.

Not worth the money and risk of shit quality. I'll stick to pharmaceuticals.

And the city closest to me is a city I guess, but shit it's not like an actual city with big buildings or anything. I don't have money for gas to go drive to look for drugs lol, so even if I somehow did, then I wouldn't have money for said drugs. Don't get me wrong, I understand what you're saying. Someone who is physically dependent is a different case. I lost all interest anyway, just wanted to see what the fuss was about.
 
Dude your going to get it if your brain tells you you want it and heroin makes your brain tell you that. Your saying all the things almost every heroin addict has said I'm in your boat. My access is limited. Hell I got told it was something else when I first started experimenting. I said I'd never do heroin I kept getting it when I knew what it was it was too late. My guy got raided twice in February so far I still thought about getting some tonight even though I knew cops were watching him. Youwill expand your resources as you expand your addiction with every experiment. These aren't your parents judging these people are you in future saying don't do it!
 
If you don't start IV'ing, and wait AT LEAST 2 weeks between each time you use, heroin is a very enjoyable high to experience every now and again. Objective is to use it on seldom occasions and not make it out to be something you need to do routinely, ideally you won't ever plan arrangements in your head, just something you do and be done with it for a while. Providing you can moderate your own use, using heroin is great and actually affordable way to get high, great for spending a whole day or two just getting blowed and relaxing. You won't be developing a tolerance so a half gram will last you pretty damn long and you'll stay high just snorting little lines through-out the day, and a couple tokes of some good med marijuana will set it off perfect. Prior to my extremely unintelligent move of picking up a needle and subjecting myself to the hell that is addiction, I did this for a couple years without it affecting my social life, my finances, and my relationships with my loved ones. Though I could tell you all day that a heroin habit, snorting or IV'ing, is the devil, some people just have to find out for there own selves. Just enjoy it, and know that this substance could take hold of your life or end it in an instance.
 
these threads make me sad because the person who makes this thread makes a " help me calm my dope sickness" thread a few months from now.

i do IV dope on the weekends. im fully mentally addicted. ben this way for a year.
 
I've seen way more people have their lives disrupted by an addiction to prescription opiates than by addiction to heroin. Both are undoubtedly bad for you, but it seems to me that someone taking 160mg of oxy a day is probably gonna hurt themselves just as badly as someone who's sniffing a few stamps a day.

On the topic of IV administration, to me it seems like the most dangerous and irresponsible way to use any drug. But I've heard numerous stories of people (even people I went to high school with) smoking oxycontin. Honestly, I'd IV heroin before I'd smoke a pill.
 
The fact that this post was even made just says they know they can't and shouldn't. Its external validation (or lack f) from other DUs that morphine is a fun leisurely drug that everyone leaves laying around for a boring day off
 
I've seen way more people have their lives disrupted by an addiction to prescription opiates than by addiction to heroin. Both are undoubtedly bad for you, but it seems to me that someone taking 160mg of oxy a day is probably gonna hurt themselves just as badly as someone who's sniffing a few stamps a day.

On the topic of IV administration, to me it seems like the most dangerous and irresponsible way to use any drug. But I've heard numerous stories of people (even people I went to high school with) smoking oxycontin. Honestly, I'd IV heroin before I'd smoke a pill.

in my experience tolerance rises to heroin much faster. plus there's the issue of price, I'm not going to get into specifics since I'm sure you know the going rate of 160mg of oxy is in your area. If someone goes from spending that much on oxy a day and then turns to heroin, depending on what channels are funding their habit, it wouldn't take long for them to work their way up to spending the same amount on heroin as they were on oxy, and they would be getting several times as much opiate. addicts tend to be nearsighted when it comes to drugs, and will keep using til they are broke or go to sleep. with this pattern it's much easier to get severely strung out on heroin than it is on oxy. if they are getting the oxy prescribed then obviously the price would be different, but then again I don't see why they would make the switch under those circumstances.

but on the topic of prescribing, it's important to point out the lifestyle that often goes with it. if they had a prescription then they would go from copping at their local pharmacy to copping off drug dealers either ones they know or ones on the street. I don't need to get into the problems that people encounter while getting involved in that. Even if they don't have a prescription the pill game and the heroin game are two different beasts all together.

plus the quality of the drugs are much more consistent with prescription drugs. you may get a fake pressed roxi on a rare occasion, but it's even less likely that it would do physical harm to you. Heroin is a brown/tan powder (or sticky brown substance if your on the west coast, even worse), so when you cop if your not seasoned you won't know exactly what it is (or more realistically, what it isn't) until you bang it or snort it. the drug war hypes the idea of dealers selling poisons a lot, and as drug users we tend to disregard everything we're told by our government about drugs, but the reality is you really don't know what it is. we'll never know how many "overdoses" were actually murders, since when someone uses heroin their overdosing is accepted, if not expected. Giving someone a hot shot has been around since i.v. drugs were invented, and as far as getting away with murder goes it is a decent method. There's a million reasons why someone could want another person dead, more so if they are an active heroin user (owing money, robbing, dealing), so it's always a good idea to be weary of who you're getting your gear from.

so anyways although in my opinion any drug can be extremely destructive when used by certain people, equating oxycodone to heroin is difficult when you take all the factors into account. In a perfect world with pure synthetic compounds from qualified and licensed labs they would come closer to equal, but in todays world I feel like there are still substantial differences which make heroin more detrimental to it's user.
 
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