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mariposa said:
^I think the OP misspelled "fling". ;)

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i wouldnt even care if you was a prostitute
and if that you hit every man that you ever knew
that wouldnt make a difference between me and you
girl
girl you can be my miss wayne
we can do the damn thang

xtcgrlatl: Do you stay near Chi-town? If you could throw a sale tommorow then I'd probably like to fuck you for a while.
 
xtcgrlatl said:
I only 've certainly considered requiring condoms for oral but I dunno. I realize that I'm rolling the dice and I've decided that for the moment the risk is worth the rewards. having been going for about 2 years and not caught anything I feel that my discrimination practices seem to be very effective.

It's russian roulette, and I realize this, I just try and cut down on the number of bullets in the chambers.

If you do that too many times, you'll run out of bullets. I realize you are new to the board and know me not at all. I have strong opinions about guns and I do not believe you are securing your weapon safely by hiding it under the mattress. It could accidentally go off if you bounce around enough when you are working. That would put you either in the position of injury/death, or your clients.

It's also important to remember that condoms do not protect against all STDs. It's not a safe world in which to operate sexually. I believe you said you are tested at intervals - but that's only confirmation that you don't have an STD at that moment, and you're engaging in risky behavior in the meantime. That is, of course, your choice. Have you ever had a friend affected with AIDS? I'm sure anyone I know in that position would urge you to use condoms with blowjobs; the risk is remote but it exists. Demographically, white guys in their 40s that do not "normally" visit sex workers are unlikely to have one, though I don't know the stats off the top of my head. But you can't tell if you don't ask, and they might lie.

Please secure your gun properly and use condoms when you give oral sex. Your own life depends on it, and the life of the lonely john you're serving does too.
 
mariposa said:
If you do that too many times, you'll run out of bullets.

True true. Life is a game of weighing risks and rewards, in this case I've weighed the percieved risk and tried to lower it to a level that I can feel comfortable with while keeping my reward ratio high.

And the rewards are not just money, the biggest reward is time. It is not uncommon for me to decide to go to an amusement park on a whim or take camping trip for a couple days with no planning. I can drive up to tennessee and visit my family for a week, build and maintain connections with friends easily. I have all the time in the world.

The other reward is the lack of stress in my life. For about 3 months this past summer I took up a contract gig doing bug testing on supermarket self checkout machines. It was horrible. The job itself was relatively ok as far as jobs go, but all the same, I never got enough sleep, so I was always cranky and stressed out, this caused interpersonal relationship problems with friends, I had no real freedom of schedule so I had to quit working out because I was to tired to workout when I got home from work. I gained weight from sitting in a desk all day and that depressed me as did the stress popping up in my relationships. I couldnt do the things on weekends I wanted to do because I was drained from work on friday night and just wanted to rest on saturday and of course i cant do anything on sunday because I have to be at least semi refreshed for work on monday. And at the end of two weeks I took home less then 700 dollars. 1400 a month. Not even enough to afford to support myself.

Probably sounds like life as usual for most people, that's why most people spend all their free time wasting their brains and lives on watching the TV so they dont have to look at what zombies they basically are.

So it all comes back to risk/reward. I see it as a toss up between a long sheltered normal life or taking a risk and trying to make something better at the risk of winding up somewhere worse. I know I could never be content with the way people work their assess off for the best years of their life so that when they're 55 and can finally retire (if they actually get to retire) they can live the rest of their boring old people lives eating medication and watching soap operas.

Tomorrow is never guaranteed so I'd rather make the most of today. That's just me. I dont see the point of a nice long life that I spend the majority of behind a desk :)

I realize you are new to the board and know me not at all.

Actually I've been reading the board for a while, I just dont usually find myself compelled to post. :)

I have strong opinions about guns and I do not believe you are securing your weapon safely by hiding it under the mattress.

When one owns a gun for protection one has to measure ease of access with security. In the unlikely situation I did have to defend myself from a client or a home intruder my gun wont do me much good "secured". If I intend to use it I need access to it be it on my person or in my apartment. I dont really live with other people so there's no worry of someone idlly picking it up and making a mess with it.


It could accidentally go off if you bounce around enough when you are working. That would put you either in the position of injury/death, or your clients.

My gun is a beretta 92FS. A police pistol. It's worth noting the type of gun it is because due to what it was designed for it has about an 11 pound trigger pull, a shrouded firing pin, and a firing pin block that can only disengage when the trigger is pulled. It will not fire unless you take the safety off and try with a solid degree of effort to fire it. In fact, people that are not familiar with my gun often fail to fire it on purpose due to the length and weight of the trigger pull.

That combined with the other safety features basically result in a pistol that you could throw up in the air as high as you can and let it hit concrete and it cannot fire. Going even further, you could take the safety off and use it like a hockey puck and between the trigger guard, heavy trigger pull, shrouded firing pin and blocking bar....it would probably never go off unless you managed to hit the trigger somehow just right.

But basically what I'm trying to say is that it's more likely that my neighbors would suddenly have a gun fight and shoot me then it is that my gun would go off from having sex near :)

I know that to a non gun person that all probably doesnt make much sense because guns always trigger a bit of an 'omg" reaction but if I could show you the mechanics behind all that chatter you'd see what I mean :)


STD stuff

So I thought up an interesting thing. I went to get tested in september like I said and checked out all their pamphlets and posters and in hindsight almost all of the STD's are treatable or not that big a deal. Pretty much HIV is like THE std that everyone fears. But statistically you're way more likely to wind up with some nasty discharge, burning when you pee and a bottle full of antibiotics that will make it all go away in a few weeks and ultimately it's scary and humiliating but it's not all that big a deal.

STD's are a risk but really only one is a death sentence and it's one of the most unlikely to catch.

Here's how I kind of see it. I could straighten up, get a desk job, and maybe I die in a car accident on my first day to work. Car accidents are certainly more common then HIV in atlanta. The drivers down here are really pushy in a dangerous way, traffic is really bad and things are spread out so you're apt to spend a lot of time traversing the very dangerous highways and interstates.

But no one gets in their car thinking "A ladder may fall off a painters truck and land in the interstate in front of the driver next to me and cause them to swerve suddenly and swipe me causing me to careen over the median and into oncoming traffic where my little economy car will be crushed by a semi and my mangled body only identified because they pry my twisted license plate from the flaming wreckage." But thats the kind of shit that happened 106 times a day in 2006. And thats just fatalities, that doesnt even count the people maimed for life.

But people still happily jump in their car to and from work and to and from where ever else they want to go without a thought and ultimately when they arrive safe home from work having risked swift death and mutilation on our interstates their reward is maybe 80-100 bucks a day if they have a decent job. I had close calls about once a week driving to and from work.

So all of this is just a long winded way of trying to say that we weigh risks and rewards all the time, and the only moment you're guaranteed is the one you're in right now. I'm not saying dont keep an eye towards the future, but if you've got living to do it';s really a good idea to get on it :)

My occupational choice allows me a type of freedom that I feel is ultimately worth the risk I've decided to take on.

And I'm not trying to say all this to convince anyone that what I am doing is for them or something they should approve of or that it's right or smart. I'm simply trying to give insight into the way I see life and it's myriad risks.
 
Oh yeh, and that little blurb about a ladder falling off a paint truck and causing a tremendous accident was something that a client actually witnessed on his way to come see me and told me about when he got here.


Edit: So on a lighter note, here's a pro-tip for you guys seeing escorts.

Personally I dont like it when I guy pops a breathmint moments before coming to see me, if he wants to kiss me then it just makes the kisses taste to strongly of breathmint and I find it a little yucky. Your mouth tastes better without breathmints :)

On another note...please dont eat a breathmint moments before we get together and then shortly therafter start going down on me. I really really do not like the minty tingly feeling it leaves in my genitalia. It's just weird. :)
 
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atlas said:
ya, that's ridiculous. You got hosed.

I might pay 100 bucks to fuck a non-prostitute (non-professional, anyway), with no condom, every way I wanted, for as long as I wanted... provided she was smokin' hot.

consider using Link edited if you want to dip your toe in those waters again.

I dont think he got hosed I think that he popped his nut off TOO FAST............
 
xtcgrlatl-Why don't you have sex with bi men?

Why not add an extra measure of safety and require your Johns to get tested or show recent blood test results before paying for sex?

Do you have any regrets?

When you date men do you tell most of them that you do sex for pay?

Has prostitution made it harder to have sex/relationships?

What's the craziest thing that's ever happened to you?
 
True true. Life is a game of weighing risks and rewards, in this case I've weighed the percieved risk and tried to lower it to a level that I can feel comfortable with while keeping my reward ratio high.

And the rewards are not just money, the biggest reward is time. It is not uncommon for me to decide to go to an amusement park on a whim or take camping trip for a couple days with no planning. I can drive up to tennessee and visit my family for a week, build and maintain connections with friends easily. I have all the time in the world.

The other reward is the lack of stress in my life. For about 3 months this past summer I took up a contract gig doing bug testing on supermarket self checkout machines. It was horrible. The job itself was relatively ok as far as jobs go, but all the same, I never got enough sleep, so I was always cranky and stressed out, this caused interpersonal relationship problems with friends, I had no real freedom of schedule so I had to quit working out because I was to tired to workout when I got home from work. I gained weight from sitting in a desk all day and that depressed me as did the stress popping up in my relationships. I couldnt do the things on weekends I wanted to do because I was drained from work on friday night and just wanted to rest on saturday and of course i cant do anything on sunday because I have to be at least semi refreshed for work on monday. And at the end of two weeks I took home less then 700 dollars. 1400 a month. Not even enough to afford to support myself.

Probably sounds like life as usual for most people, that's why most people spend all their free time wasting their brains and lives on watching the TV so they dont have to look at what zombies they basically are.

So it all comes back to risk/reward. I see it as a toss up between a long sheltered normal life or taking a risk and trying to make something better at the risk of winding up somewhere worse. I know I could never be content with the way people work their assess off for the best years of their life so that when they're 55 and can finally retire (if they actually get to retire) they can live the rest of their boring old people lives eating medication and watching soap operas.

Tomorrow is never guaranteed so I'd rather make the most of today. That's just me. I dont see the point of a nice long life that I spend the majority of behind a desk

There are lots of risks you can take in life that are less than those associated with sex work and provide larger rewards. Sure, you might actually have to work some and invest some time into it but the pay off will last a lifetime.

You sound like you're young right now but what are your plans for the future? By the time you're 40 or so the return you get on your body is going to be quite diminished. Especially if you've been used up by all your clients.

Why do you associate work with being behind a desk? I could think of 100 jobs right now that are outdoor/active positions and pay much more than $1,400 a month.

You say it's a choice between a "long sheltered life" or "taking a risk to try for something better" but how exactly is what you're ever going to be something better?

I see you reaching an age where your beauty has faded and the money with it. No marketable skills, out of the job market for years and years, and yet still young enough to want to be alive. What exactly will you do then? Kill yourself and say it was fun while it lasted? Keep marketing your old wrinkled body to the guys no other provider will touch?

It is fine to want more out of life than to work a dead end job or even have a "career" like everyone else. I felt the same way and I started my own business. I'm only 23 years old and don't have to work again for the rest of my life if I don't want to.

The difference I see between me and you is that while we both had the same goal you went about achieving it in the most lazy short cut way you could. I could have chosen to go out and sell drugs in the same way you sell your body but I decided to work hard and build something that will actually last instead.

If this is something you really think is going to allow you to have money and free time for the rest of your life I suggest you start cutting down on living costs now and saving up your money.

I hate that bullshit "tomorrow is never guaranteed" excuse that I hear from drug dealers and other people who don't want to face the fact that what they're doing can never work forever.

Anyway, all I'm trying to say is it's obvious you're just being lazy and ignoring the consequences it's going to have in the future because you're having fun now.

You remind me of those 50 year old toothless crack addict whores you see on Cops. You think they weren't young once too and thinking "tomorrow isn't guaranteed"?
 
Kul69 said:
There are lots of risks you can take in life that are less than those associated with sex work and provide larger rewards. Sure, you might actually have to work some and invest some time into it but the pay off will last a lifetime.

Have you considered that I like what I am doing and that your opinion on the matter is irrelevant? Consider it.


You sound like you're young right now but what are your plans for the future?

Continue being a world class athlete that will train other world class athletes after making enough money to open up my own training facility. I have myriad plans for the future and a sizable support network backing me. My future is pretty well guaranteed to be comfortable if nothing else due to my family's business which continues to grow and expand.

By the time you're 40 or so the return you get on your body is going to be quite diminished. Especially if you've been used up by all your clients.

So I'm curious, did you read my posts before you decided to berate me? Just wondering. If not, you should consider giving it a try. I could have swore that one of the first things I wrote about was realizing that this is not a sustainable career and using it to build something better.

Though I suppose this brings me to another point I know of a 45 year old escort who gets 400+ calls a day because she's established and charges 300 dollars an hour just to give someone a massage naked. This job is more sustainable then it's given credit for, though I've not interest in stretching to past a few more years.

Why do you associate work with being behind a desk?

Because my prior field of work is a desk job field. You don't change your career to something more attractive overnight. I could have swore that maybe I also wrote something about using the money I make doing this to put myself into a different educational field.

I could think of 100 jobs right now that are outdoor/active positions and pay much more than $1,400 a month.

Bet they dont have nearly the freedom that I do, thats ultimately more important, thats why I happily did what I did when it was simply getting by and not a big money maker like it is now.

You say it's a choice between a "long sheltered life" or "taking a risk to try for something better" but how exactly is what you're ever going to be something better?

My credit is wrecked to the point where I'd have to work years at most jobs to even think about maybe one day starting to repair i and then maybe one day getting a loan to go to school or open my own business. In about 6 months my credit will be clear and in 2-3 years. I'll probably buy a nice house outright in cash, assuming I dont just get my rich mommy to give me one. I dont like to take advantage of my rich mommy's money (hence why I destroyed my credit to further assert my independence in my younger years) but it's there if I need it. If I decide to get a job in the family business, I have one more or less guaranteed and they'd probably give me a house on our beautiful and extensive family farm if I ever decide to move back to it.

So please kindly shut the fuck up and quit pretending like you know something about me or my life because you know pretty much nothing that I've not told you and what I've told here is only a tiny fraction of the story relevant to this thread. All you have beyond that is speculation.

I see you reaching an age where your beauty has faded and the money with it. No marketable skills, out of the job market for years and years, and yet still young enough to want to be alive. What exactly will you do then? Kill yourself and say it was fun while it lasted? Keep marketing your old wrinkled body to the guys no other provider will touch?

Once again See: Speculation.

I'm only 23 years old and don't have to work again for the rest of my life if I don't want to.

Congratulations. You're still an asshole. Shame money can't fix that.


The difference I see between me and you is that while we both had the same goal you went about achieving it in the most lazy short cut way you could. I could have chosen to go out and sell drugs in the same way you sell your body but I decided to work hard and build something that will actually last instead.

Good for you, you were successful in starting your own business. Most people who start their own business fail in the first year and find themselves in horrible debt and back at their old job still spinning their tires, still getting nowhere, and further back then they were.

If this is something you really think is going to allow you to have money and free time for the rest of your life I suggest you start cutting down on living costs now and saving up your money.

I could have swore that I said something about all that. Is your business that you provide psychic readings?

I hate that bullshit "tomorrow is never guaranteed" excuse that I hear from drug dealers and other people who don't want to face the fact that what they're doing can never work forever.

And I hate that bullshit thing where people get indignant over the choices others choose to make. If you think I haven't already thought about all this stuff about 5 times a day then you are wrong.

Anyway, all I'm trying to say is it's obvious you're just being lazy and ignoring the consequences it's going to have in the future because you're having fun now.

You remind me of those 50 year old toothless crack addict whores you see on Cops. You think they weren't young once too and thinking "tomorrow isn't guaranteed"?

Sounds like they were to successful at that whole survival thing in their younger years. Clearly I need to start taking more risks, I'm considering getting into cave diving, maybe I'll see about taking up base jumping aswell...

But no, seriously, Those chicks started off charging 50 bucks a blow and staying up all night to support a habit because they had no support network. I started off at 150 an hour, been going up steadly, get plenty of rest, am a world class athlete and have no habits to support other then I drink about 6 cans of coke a day.

No no, i know, you caught the last 20 minutes of "Hookers on the Point" on late night HBO a couple years back and now you know all about the escort business.

Have you taken into consideration that there are a great many escorts who do this gig and then happily reintegrate successfully and better off then they were before and you don't know about it because of that success? Because that's certainly not uncommon for a girl who has her head on straight. You hear about and see the failures because they are the most visible. This is not a guarenteed path to destruction by any means.

So once again, let me reiterate. You really know jack and shit about me and this business.. All your rant against my perceived laziness shows to me is that you hate that I can be lazy and still fly by happily. It shows me that you simply want to believe that I'll really get mine in the end and I'll regret how lazy I've been and that all your hard work is what really matters and that oooooh those people that never have to work for shit really burn me up!

But in this case your fantasy of that lazy bitch that skates by getting her just deserts in the end is probably going to flop simply because my very rich mommy loves me and it wouldnt break her back to buy me a new house like she just bought my sister one. Maybe if I ask her nicely I can have the one we have in the Bahamas.


But no no, continue to sit on your high horse, perhaps this is the part where you tell me that you hope I get AIDS or that I will get AIDS or that I'll be sucking dick for crack when I'm 60 years old and gumming rancid cocks.

Hell, I sucked dick for some rolls one time so I'm half way there I suppose.

Blah blah blah blah...anyways, Cliff Notes: Get the fuck over yourself.
 
Question: do you plan to have children at some point? Would you tell them of your career? And do your friends/family know what you do?
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
xtcgrlatl-Why don't you have sex with bi men?

Bi men generally find it easy to hook up with other gay and bi men and I see way to many bi men posting in "casual encounters" on craigslist asking specifically to be fucked bareback or fuck someone bareback. Basically my perception of bi men is basically that they tend to be more open to high risk behavior.

Why not add an extra measure of safety and require your Johns to get tested or show recent blood test results before paying for sex?

Because it's way to much of a pain in the ass to do when you're just feeling bored with your wife and want to hook up with an escort in a couple hours. If I started asking for blood tests then I'd almost certainly kill my business.

Do you have any regrets?

Yeh, I let this guy talk me into an outcall tonight when I was feeling lazy because he promised me 400 bucks, and when I was about half way there he called to ask me if 300 was ok and I said yes when I should have blown him off to prove a point.

It worked out in the end though because he was a good looking guy, treated me nicely and I'm awesome in bed so he gave me all the money he had on him, just under 350, and wants to take me on a casual dinner date to the fine dining establishment of my choosing tomorrow. ;)

When you date men do you tell most of them that you do sex for pay?

heck no :) I have another little quirky side business that I dont want to disclose to help protect some of my anonymity. But basically it's not prostitution but is kind of on the fringes of it because it's catering to an unusual fetish that basically requires me to do nothing sexual but still pays about $150 a session. It's not as popular as it would need to be to support me full time, but I make a few hundred here and there doing it. Since it's not prostitution I dont mind showing and talking about that business with people and most of my friends/ would be dating pool think that's what I do for a living. A half truth.

Has prostitution made it harder to have sex/relationships?

Relationships? I can see how it would. It hasnt affected me because I am not currently seeking a relationship.

As far as sex on a casual basis goes, i often get paid to have good sex with good looking guys. It can be quite enjoyable. Today in fact I had probably the most awesome non-rolling sexual encounter of my life and I got paid for it.

I told the guy that next time was on me, just for fun, and he thought that was great.

What's the craziest thing that's ever happened to you?


Well if you look at my previous posts I dropped a story about a dude begging me to shit in his mouth.

But now that I think about it I had a regular client that wanted to simply be shoved around physically and made to clean my apartment and take me on dates and stuff. Part of enforcing the dominant position in that client relationship was that he would wear a remote controlled doggie shock collar on his balls and give me the control and if he "disobeyed" I was to give him a shock to the nuts.

I always told that guy that he need only pay me 200 dollars but he always insisted on paying me 500 dollars a session. would usually see me 3-5 days in a row while he was in town, which was on about a monthly basis. Unusual client, great bargain.

Which actually kind of reminds me, I have some BDSM experiance and pay-4-Mistresses are able to get business well after the've lost a lot of their physical attractiveness based on their specialization.

When I'm 45, if I so chose, I could get into being a Mistress for hire and probably command even more an hour then I do now and not even have to fuck the clients.

or maybe I'll start running my own agency and have girls working for me , or maybe...maybe a lot of things, point being, having seen the sex industry from the inside there are a lot of places one can take it, sucking cock for 20 dollars to support your crack habit in the shitty parts of town is not the fate of all girls that work the sex industry.


Do you plan to have children sometime?

No, I'll probably have tubal ligation within a year.
 
Kul69 said:
You sound like you're young right now but what are your plans for the future? By the time you're 40 or so the return you get on your body is going to be quite diminished. Especially if you've been used up by all your clients.

Have you considered the return on your soul by the time you're 40 when at 23 you get so much pleasure from using money to play with human beings like toys?

Kul69 said:
Just a few minutes after penetration the fantasy was basically dead for me. However, that moment of penetration and the couple minutes after it were pure bliss to me. Not the physical sensation but seeing the look on their face and sort of being able to "be in their mind" in that moment. I bet I sound like some kind of horrible demon succubus or something.

...

When she arrived I told her that I didn't want to have sex with her and she was free to take the money and leave or I'd give her another $100 to take a drug called DMT which only lasts about 10-15 minutes. She asked a few questions about it and I explained what DMT is and told her she'd be smoking it and such.

Nothing in your posts suggest you have anything but disgust for her job and what it stands for, which is fine, that's your personal opinion, but don't try to disguise it as career advice.

I just find it galling when I read threads like this with so many drug users (people who are criminals according to laws unfairly based on moralism), passing their own moralistic judgements on sex workers for what they do.
 
something as simple and seemingly innocuous as eating tortilla chips can cause microscopic tears that are big enough to let the virus in.

In that vein, don't brush your teeth right before having sex if you aren't sure of your partner's STD status. Brushing causes small abrasions to the gums that can also help viruses get in.


The two most common STDs are herpes and HPV. They're not that dramatic, but herpes is incurable (you have it all your life) and various HPV viruses can cause genital warts, cervical and penile cancer. (HPV can't be cured per se, but your body usually manages to eliminate the virus on its own after perhaps 3-5 years.) About one in five adults have genital herpes, another one in five have a HPV virus. (With some overlap, of course.)

I STRONGLY encourage all women who aren't in a committed, long-term relationship to get the HPV vaccine (Gardasil.) It's a little expensive ($300 usually) but highly effective, and could save your life as well as preventing genital warts. This vaccine DOES work in men, although it hasn't been FDA approved for men. Guys who are having casual relationships would also likely be well-served to get vaccinated, although you may have trouble finding a doctor willing to prescribe it off-label (for use in men.)
 
xtcgrlatl and Kul69, your exchange of posts are some quality reading. I keep thinking of Nietzsche's master morality vs. slave morality. In short, slaves resent masters for daring to do what they themselves don't dare to do. So they invent their own moral order, in which the master's patently better quality of life is inferior to virtues such as endless toil.

I don't identify with your philosophy of life at all, xtcgrlatl. But I can't help but respect you knowing yourself well enough to know exactly what it is you want out of life, and what's within your capabilities to get it. And you're obviously smart -- especially people smart -- to have gotten as far as you have without problems.

Kul69, since you compared this profession to drug dealing, I'd wager what she said about most working girls doing it quietly and without incident for a few years and then couting their money and getting back into a normal life holds true for most drug dealers too. The good ones in both cases have lips like a bank vault, are picky about their clientele, and don't bite off more than they can chew out of greed.
 
I'm not liking the tone of some of what I'm reading here, but I'm not making any edits since xtcgrlatl, you appear to be more than capable of handling yourself... I would like to remind everyone that personal attacks aren't OK in here and any more, we start handing out warnings.

I find it interesting, though, that you have the perception that desk jobs are so bad. My current one is the "soul-sucking" type, but I've been doing it for long enough that I've been able to get to a good income level, get out of debt and still have a few bucks left over after all the bills are paid. It's enough for me.

You're definitely the exception rather than the rule, though. The sex workers I have known in the past did not like what they do; none were "streetwalkers" and all used the Internet to get clients. One friend I know avoided STDs but she only did it for about a year and had a clientele of mostly married Asian men, in addition to using condoms for everything, including blowjobs. Another, however, got a meth habit, HIV, herpes. Russian roulette indeed.

Have you considered working in a legal brothel in Nevada?

TheDEA - Agreed 100% on the HPV vaccine. It, of course, came onto the market right after my 27th birthday and in the US it is not given past age 26. I somehow managed to avoid HPV and have only one partner with whom I plan to stay with long-term.

The only moral problem I have with prostitution is that I don't see sex as a commodity. I have had casual sex in the past. The idea of having sex with someone that I did not have love or deep affection for just doesn't sit well with me, but I don't look down on anyone who thinks differently. I do think it's tacky to talk about how much money you make, but that has nothing to do with your profession.
 
xtcgrlatl said:
Bi men generally find it easy to hook up with other gay and bi men and I see way to many bi men posting in "casual encounters" on craigslist asking specifically to be fucked bareback or fuck someone bareback. Basically my perception of bi men is basically that they tend to be more open to high risk behavior.

You shouldn't just go by Craigslist's personal encounters.

IME Bi men do less risky sex than some gay men but almost ALL of the hetero men and women I know are into high risk sex like barebacking and I know hetero women who think it's 100% safe to swallow any guy.

In reality someone's sexual orientation doesn't have anything to do if they're open or into doing high risk sex.

What would you do if tomorrow you met the perfect guy you wanted to have a relationship with, would you tell him about how you do sex for pay?

Have you ever been busted by the cops?

How often do you get checked for STDs?

How do you find most of your Johns, in the personal encounters section of Craigslist?

Do your Johns ever try to pay you with drugs?
 
Agreed 100% on the HPV vaccine. It, of course, came onto the market right after my 27th birthday and in the US it is not given past age 26.

It CAN be given to older patients. The way it works is that the FDA regulates how a drug (or vaccine or medical device) can be promoted. So, the manufacturer can only sell and promote it for women up to age 26. HOWEVER, doctors are not legally bound by these marketing restrictions; they can (and often do) prescribe 'off-label', using medications outside of the FDA approved limits. So, if you'd like the vaccine, it would likely be as easy as insisting on it to your doctor. They CAN give it to you. (The situation is the same for men; Gardasil isn't approved for guys in the US (it is in Europe), but it works perfectly well in men...so all you need to do is find a doctor who agrees that its a good idea, which shouldn't be too hard.)
 
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I find it interesting, though, that you have the perception that desk jobs are so bad.

They were OK. I did tech support for dell for quite a while and I enjoyed it well enough. The only really shitty thing was the heavily restricted scheduling. Be here at your designated hour, not one minute late, dont leave one minute early. That was fine before I established a number of exciting hobbies and a social life.

I got into escorting and it opened up new avenues for me. Suddenly my life became my own. I didn't have to plan anything around work tomorrow. My money became more my own because I didn't need to buy business casual clothes. It was just freedom.

Freedom that I've learned to take more and more advantage of. Escorting is a traveling gig if you want it to be. Within the coming year I plan to take myself and my best friend on week long trips around the US to different cities of interest such as New York, Houston and San Francisco. I've traveled a lot in my younger years but she never did so I want to take her on road trips. While in different cities I can do a few tricks, probably get the trip to more then pay for itself. I get emails from would be clients all over the country asking me to travel so it's certainly doable, the freedom is the most attractive thing, really.


You're definitely the exception rather than the rule, though.

I can live with that :)

Have you considered working in a legal brothel in Nevada?

I've kicked the idea around but it's not as appealing as doing my own thing, also I dont care much for Nevada,been to vegas and reno a number of times. The south east ( considering moving to florida) or the west coast appeal more to me.

The only moral problem I have with prostitution is that I don't see sex as a commodity.

I didn't either. In fact, until I became an escort I had had sex with 2 people. It was hard at first to open up that door every day or two and have a stranger there with very real expectations about what was going to go down. Extreme nervousness.

It got easier and easier to see sex in a much more casual light.

I do think it's tacky to talk about how much money you make.

haha, well, well I simply wanted to counter-act the widespread notion of the horrors of the escort business like the girls that have to suck 8 dicks a day just to get by and feed their drug habits

Certainly I *see* girls like that, but their experience is not my experience. The impression I've gotten from girls like that is that they started off trashy in their daily lives, brought that trashyness to their business, and thus they get trashy clients that probably treat them like shit and make the gig much harder then it has to be. A lot of the girls I see,paticularly black girls on craigslist advertise with pictures of themselves with their tongue hanging out and jizz on their face.

When you start off like that, then you've kinda shot yourself in the foot from the get-go.








PriestTheyCalledHim said:
You shouldn't just go by Craigslist's personal encounters.

Probably not but since I do advertise on craigslist from time to time it is worth while for me to keep an eye on the trends there. Perhaps my prejudice is unreasonable but it hasnt seemed to hurt me.

IME Bi men do less risky sex than some gay men but almost ALL of the hetero men and women I know are into high risk sex like barebacking and I know hetero women who think it's 100% safe to swallow any guy.

This is certainly true but most hetero guys, especially the old married white guys like the ones that I see, probably don't get laid often wheras bi guys seem to increase their chances of getting laid by more people in high risk ways. Just the way I see it. I'm not meaning to make any sweeping generalizations but popular generalizations do often have some relevance worth keeping in mind.

What would you do if tomorrow you met the perfect guy you wanted to have a relationship with, would you tell him about how you do sex for pay?

No. I'd get STD tested, be honest about the results, and then simply refuse to talk about how many people i've been with, saying that I was promiscuous in the past but it's not an issue now.

Have you ever been busted by the cops?

Yes I have. What's funny is that the cop sent up redflags by asking about a specific act after asking how much I charge. Even as I answered his question I knew that I shouldnt be doing it, but a lot of would be clients dont know the ettiquette of the business so usually a law enforcement "Redflag" just means they're ignorant.

I answered the question knowing better, his phone rang, he said he had to take it outside, stepped outside and as he did 3 other officers entered my room. They basically wrote me a citation and I went to court and got 9 months probation and the offense taken off my record at the end.

How often do you get checked for STDs?

Not nearly as often as I should, honestly.

How do you find most of your Johns, in the personal encounters section of Craigslist?

I have solid reviews on an escort review site and I advertise on a very popular escort site, mst of my new clients these days come from one of those two. I will sometimes post on craigslist but not usually.

Do your Johns ever try to pay you with drugs?

Only happened one time and I kicked the guy out after he lit up a crack pipe. that is not my choice of clientelle. I generally stay away from guys that want to "party and play". Not that it happens often.

I did use my newfound open mindedness about sex to get someone to give me a 6 pack of good rolls when I was new to atlanta and had no idea where to find them by trading a blowjob.

Met the guy on yahoo chat using a name similar to this one, also had an enticing picture of myself on my profile kind of knowing that eventually someone would hint at trading a blow or sex for rolls.

He didn't/doesn't know that I'm an escort. We both walked away pretty happy. Good lookin guy too, I enjoyed going down on him.
 
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