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EVERYBODY cheats!

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Psychubus said:
Granted, some guys took ages longer to convince than others. Some dropped their boxers the instant they thought they could without getting caught. Others took up to a half year to score. I even had to use alcohol or drugs with some (all consentual though, no "slipping" drugs or anything). While some may argue that people's characters change under the influence, what the fuck do you think is going to happen next time your b/f or g/f goes to a party and gets wasted then?
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wow....um...



Psychubus said:
Perhaps your urge to partake in pointless name-calling and finger-pointing stems from your own insecurities about how close this sort of situation could apply to you. Why do you even keep referring back to the sex, as if you base your relationships on that? It clearly wasn't even about that in the first place.
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i think you missed what psychetool was saying...either that or your incapable of comprehending it...

personally, i think that having sex with someone who is openly and immediately willing, single or not, is fine. But when you decide to do an 'experiment' and turn otherwise 'faithful' people against the morals they thought they had...is just kind of...shitty.

of course you knew it would work. of course you already knew that everyone would cheat given a certain set of circumstances. the experiment seems an excuse for turning it into a nice little sex game for yourself, feeding a fetish of yours involving 'hitched' men.

personally i dont do formal relationships, but i have in the past and i understand the vulnerable state most of us are in. if you believe the person to be faithful, and you find out that they arent, it's horrible.

perhaps you have been in that situation and you refuse to have empathy for the person on the other end, prefering to go the serial killer route.
 
by the way.. for a serious reply.. there are those who do not cheat.

I've cheated once. Just once. Long term relationship.. long distance relationship.. hadn't seen her for 9 months. And we'd been fighting.. alot. Pushed the girl away and sobbed like a baby. And never did it again. One time.. under extreme circumstances, out for 3 relationships that all lasted more than 2 years. Not a bad record.

There are people in this world that honor other people's trust in them and don't violate that. Not b/c it's a boundary and obligation, but b/c they don't want to.

There's also people in this world.. who respect relationships as they stand for better or for worse and don't interfere with them. If I, for instance, find that an interest is attached to someone else.. i stay a friend. If staying a friend is too emotionally wretching.. then i stop seeing them. It's called having a bit of respect for other people. You want to talk small minded? You want to talk closed minded?

Look at the title of your fucking thread.

And i sure as hell don't go looking for the attached type in the hopes of luring them away from their relationships.

Sorry to see someone boast about their low moral character and disrespect for others just to drag the loyalty, trust, and respect that others may or may not have through the mudd to make some vast stupid generalization.

And your self importance about how "charming" you are and how "good looking you are" is sickening arrogant bullshit. You want to know why you don't trust people? B/c you spent so much fucking time manipulating, coniving, and being deceitful in order to bring out the worst in people. Ever notice the possesive, controlling, insecure boyfriend that calls the girl friend fanatically and yells at her about who she's with, and when she'll be back, and what is she doing.. and arguing about her hanging out with this guy or that guy like an obsessed maniac .. normally has cheated or thinks about cheating or toes the line with cheating quite frequently? His worst qualities that he's damned well is aware of, are projected as insecurities onto his signifigant other and matters concerning her. It's common.

When you're a piece of shit and are fully aware of it.. you're respect for others really isn't all that great. Respect yourself... be able to trust your own actions... and your respect and trust that you put into others greatly increases.

But i'm small minded and stupid and wouldn't know anything about that.
 
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sheepish486 said:
wow....um...

i think you missed what psychetool was saying...either that or your incapable of comprehending it...

personally, i think that having sex with someone who is openly and immediately willing, single or not, is fine. But when you decide to do an 'experiment' and turn otherwise 'faithful' people against the morals they thought they had...is just kind of...shitty.

of course you knew it would work. of course you already knew that everyone would cheat given a certain set of circumstances. the experiment seems an excuse for turning it into a nice little sex game for yourself, feeding a fetish of yours involving 'hitched' men.

personally i dont do formal relationships, but i have in the past and i understand the vulnerable state most of us are in. if you believe the person to be faithful, and you find out that they arent, it's horrible.

perhaps you have been in that situation and you refuse to have empathy for the person on the other end, prefering to go the serial killer route.
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I understand psychetool's perspective; he is among one of the many. However, I also know that it is always good to get every person to question their own motives, especially people who are so adamant to point the finger. It prevents a loss of perspective and allows us to consider things we might have not thought about before.

If anybody has cheated on me (which I'm sure some have), then I most certainly don't know about it.

Did I really know those people wouldn't cheat, or did a part of me always hope?
 
DigitalDuality said:
by the way.. for a serious reply.. there are those who do not cheat.

I've cheated once. Just once. Long term relationship.. long distance relationship.. hadn't seen her for 9 months. And we'd been fighting.. alot. Pushed the girl away and sobbed like a baby. And never did it again. One time.. under extreme circumstances, out for 3 relationships that all lasted more than 2 years. Not a bad record.

There are people in this world that honor other people's trust in them and don't violate that. Not b/c it's a boundary and obligation, but b/c they don't want to.

There's also people in this world.. who respect relationships as they stand for better or for worse and don't interfere with them. If I, for instance, find that an interest is attached to someone else.. i stay a friend. If staying a friend is too emotionally wretching.. then i stop seeing them. It's called having a bit of respect for other people. You want to talk small minded? You want to talk closed minded?

Look at the title of your fucking thread.

And i sure as hell don't go looking for the attached type in the hopes of luring them away from their relationships.

Sorry to see someone boast about their low moral character and disrespect for others just to drag the loyalty, trust, and respect that others may or may not have through the mudd to make some vast stupid generalization.
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Duality, I don't know what it is you are overreacting about. Look at how emotional you have been acting in this thread.

I of course, was much younger when all this took place. Sure, maybe I did have low moral character and disrespect for myself and others. What is your point? Much like my "mission," your senseless banter seems to have accomplished nothing.
 
No.. i'm knocking you off your fucking intellectual pedestal with the ability to claim everyone cheats. And giving a counter point to your useless babble.
 
Psychubus said:
In an effort to make your relationship work, you have made it a very impersonal thing. You have allowed yourself to become detached to your partner.
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Umm k whatever you say.

So why has our marriage worked for 20yrs? We watched as plenty of friends get married/breakup- - marry again/kids/breakup and yet we keep going like teenagers so we must be doing something right.

DigitalDuality said:
There are people in this world that honor other people's trust in them and don't violate that.
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Well said and for Psychubus` your going to have some evil KARMA coming your way- try & have a loving-trusting relationship..... paybacks.
 
DigitalDuality said:
No.. i'm knocking you off your fucking intellectual pedestal with the ability to claim everyone cheats. And giving a counter point to your useless babble.
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If your words had any substance at all to it, then you would kindly refrain from talking down to others in this manner.

I do not hold myself on any "intellectual pedestal," because I view everybody as my equal, and therefore expect to be treated as such. You are supposed to be a moderator. Show some depth and insight.
 
4nik8r said:
Umm k whatever you say.

So why has our marriage worked for 20yrs? We watched as plenty of friends get married/breakup- - marry again/kids/breakup and yet we keep going like teenagers so we must be doing something right.
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Are you really asking for my hypothesis, or is that a rhetoric question? I do not want to give unwanted advice...
 
lets hear your mind opening words of wisdom....


Have you ever had a real relationship that wasn`t based on lies and underhanded motives? or were you too worried that someone might cheat on you and decided to beatem to the punch.

sad yes your a very sad person

1 last question, how old are you?
 
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4nik8r said:
lets here your mindopening words of wisdom....
Have you ever had a real relationship that wasn`t based on lies and underhanded motives? or were you too worried that someone might cheat on you and decided to beatem to the punch.

sad yes your a very sad person

1 last question, how old are you?
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Yes. I have had three very loving, long term relationships, two of whom i am 99.99% (remember there is no 100% :D ) sure did not cheat on me. No underlying motives, and of course I do not waste my time getting myself into relationships that are based on lies (that I know of). Only one of them I found out was a cheater--not on my end, but apparently he had a serious girlfriend before me and was cheating on her (another one lol), and this one was a sneaky guy! I went for months without even knowing.

Of course, I believed all this stuff long before I met him. Being with him only enforced the opinion that shit, it CAN happen to me. It made the possibility of it so much more real.

I am 30 years old.
 
Psychubus said:
If your words had any substance at all to it, then you would kindly refrain from talking down to others in this manner.

I do not hold myself on any "intellectual pedestal," because I view everybody as my equal, and therefore expect to be treated as such. You are supposed to be a moderator. Show some depth and insight.
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you're god damned right you're lesser than me.
 
4nik8r

Well, I cannot say exactly why your particular relationship works seeing as how I don't know you, but from what you have given me here is my overall analysis:

I wrote previously to you:
In an effort to make your relationship work, you have made it a very impersonal thing. You have allowed yourself to become detached to your partner.
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In a sense, such a relationship "works," in the same way that one force is pulling, while another is pushing. In this case, you have been able to detach from the relationship, thereby deflecting any possible problems.

Me personally, I do not wish for this kind of relationship. This sort of relationship holds no meaning or value to me. The same way that a slave and master relationship "works" because one force is giving while another is receiving, this is not exactly the kind of relationship that I strive for. Not saying that it personally does not work for you, just that I could not be happy with it.
 
during your little experiment.. did you get tested after every conquest? Did you have enough respect for the men.. and their wives or girlfriends to get tested EVERY single time?

Did you even care as to who you might be endangering and how? You didn't have any respect for yourself, or other peoples relationships.. so i'm assuming no.
 
DigitalDuality said:
during your little experiment.. did you get tested after every conquest? Did you have enough respect for the men.. and their wives or girlfriends to get tested EVERY single time?

Did you even care as to who you might be endangering and how? You didn't have any respect for yourself, or other peoples relationships.. so i'm assuming no.
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Faulty logic.

Do you get tested after every single sex conquest? Do you get tested before every single new one?
 
how is it faulty? Weren't you doing it for an experiment? That's not typical sexual behavior. It's a fair question, besides.
 
i get tested regularly. and my relationships seem to be pretty monogamous and long term for the most part. But you see there's a difference.

#1. I don't view them as conquests.
#2. I would be endangering one person, not 2. And you see.. the guy who cheats with you.. is half responsible for his own safety. He's also responsible for possibly passing it on to his wife. You, knowing that he's married.. could very well endanger someone who had NOTHING to do with it. B/c of your actions, 30 actions i should say, 60 people could have .. i dunno.. whatever is breeding in your crotch that doctor's have found a name for yet.
 
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