EVERYBODY cheats!

[Psychubus]

depth and insight is not a requirement for being a moderator.

:D

It helps if you don't wanna see a decline in the quality of posting at bluelight. (Though one could argue that I am contributing to bluelight's slow deterioration, all I am doing is asking questions and posting controversial topics)

 

[4nik8r]

I would call it being a adult and TRUSTING the other person and yet knowing it could happen, but we have faith in each other to the where its a none issue.

I could get run over by a car too - - shit happens.



Now you will always be thinking is he cheating.... KARMA has plans for you.

 

[faris]

SLM et al....

i want to apologize for my post and contributing to bringing down the normal good vibe this forum emulates. i'm not apologizing specficially for my words to the psychobitch, but for generally resorting to personal attacks in a forum like this.

as for *you*, i ain't got nuthin else nice to say so.......

 

[Psychubus]

#1. I don't view them as conquests.

And is that supposed to make you a better person?

#2. I would be endangering one person, not 2. And you see.. the guy who cheats with you.. is half responsible for his own safety. He's also responsible for possibly passing it on to his wife. You, knowing that he's married.. could very well endanger someone who had NOTHING to do with it. B/c of your actions, 30 actions i should say, 60 people could have .. i dunno.. whatever is breeding in your crotch that doctor's have found a name for yet.

Faulty logic, again. You are only endangering one person that you are AWARE OF. Simply because you do not know or have been believed into thinking so, does not make it so... hence the reason for my thread.

Why is it MY responsibility to keep the guy's wife/girlfriend STD free? This should be HIS obligation, along with being faithful.

 

[Psychubus]

KARMA has plans for you.

lol. If that helps you sleep at night.

I guess that one applies to faris too. Regardless, its PSYCHUBUS; the psychonaut version of the succubus.

 

[DigitalDuality]

And is that supposed to make you a better person?.

Call it what you want. I have more respect for the opposite sex to think of them as conquests. There's nothing to conquer, nothing to win. People are not notches on a bedpost or a goal to achieve.

Faulty logic, again. You are only endangering one person that you are AWARE OF. Simply because you do not know or have been believed into thinking so, does not make it so... hence the reason for my thread.

Give me a break. YOu can sit in denial all you want about it. The person has a signifigant other. The chances of 2 people becoming infected so you can exploit the worst in people is pretty fucking high. Just b/c you don't know if they'll fuck their wife ever again, isn't a justification. Use some common sense.

Oh and thanks for not answering my question and deflecting it with bullshit arguements. I'll take that as a "no" you didn't get tested.

 

[4nik8r]

Damn this funny, on my 2nd beer and yet the troll keeps digger herself deeper .
Had to call the wife and tell her she`s my slave!

slave and master relationship indeed! cool I better get the whips out for some @zz worship tonite.

Did I say 2nd beer? looks like its going to be my 3rd

Keep on posting, this is good stuff

 

[miss starry]

I do not hold myself on any "intellectual pedestal," because I view everybody as my equal, and therefore expect to be treated as such.

So...do you treat others how you'd like to be treated?

I think the reason people are reacting so emotionally and angrily to your post is because the obvious answer is "no" and you seem to be somewhat proud of that fact.

Can you really say that you treated the men whose emotions you were trying to conquer as equals or as somehow below you, as people you could manipulate and control in order? How about these men's wives and girlfriends? Do you feel as though you treated them as equals? Or did you assume that you could outdo them in some capacity, and set off to compete with them for their man?

Your actions speak louder than your words. When your joy and self-worth is derived from proving that you can control others, that says to me that you don't see other human beings as equals. You may be proud of your skills in finding other people's weaknesses and preying on them, but don't expect too much respect and admiration from others if you brag about it. If I were you, I'd keep this kind of thing about my past to myself.

 

[Psychubus]

Call it what you want. I have more respect for the opposite sex to think of them as conquests. There's nothing to conquer, nothing to win. People are not notches on a bedpost or a goal to achieve.

Give me a break. YOu can sit in denial all you want about it. The person has a signifigant other. The chances of 2 people becoming infected so you can exploit the worst in people is pretty fucking high. Just b/c you don't know if they'll fuck their wife ever again, isn't a justification. Use some common sense.

Oh and thanks for not answering my question and deflecting it with bullshit arguements. I'll take that as a "no" you didn't get tested.

People are whatever you make of them. This belief applies to you of course, and is not universal. But if you truly do believe in respect for humanity, that humans are something more than mere bedposts or an insignificant goal, then perhaps you would actually take my words as a learning experience instead of crying and creating arguments for which have no merit behind them. (Note that by learning experience it does not necessarily mean you will agree with me, but really, look back at some of the shit you have typed out. What exactly are you trying to accomplish by being so hateful?)

I am not liable for what somebody does after I have sex with them. I'm sure you expect me to drive him to the doctor's office and sit there and hold his hand and wait while he's getting his checkup done, right? As long as I personally do not have any STD's that I know of or suspect of, that is what matters; in the same way that you have been able to justify your sex escapades, because the person you have been with does not have an s/o...that you know of.

 

[fastandbulbous]

Just my twopennethworth...

I've been with the same person for 11 years, never cheated and yes I've had 'come-ons' before, all the way from subtle ploys to a woman grabbing my dick through my jeans and saying "I bet I can get all of it into my mouth". Now I'm not saying that I wouldn't have cheated with every woman I've had a relationship with, but in the case of my wife, I knew it was a non-starter. There are times when you get into a relationship and you know it's not going to be long term, but I've only once ever had the feeling that I'd met someone who was the person I was looking for. That's in terms of physically, intellectually, socially and even (though I don't like the term) spiritually. It's just the feeling that you couldn't find anyone else more attuned to who you are (and I think that after 11 years I'd know). We have had rough patches, but nothing that remembering to communicate wouldn't fix.

Now I know that there are a lot of blokes that will always think with their dick first, but that isn't every bloke; some actually have found someone that they're totally happy with - it took me a long time, but now I've found that person I'm not likely to risk it all for a night of shagging someone 'just because they're different'. I'm sorry, but saying everbody cheats is a bit of a sweeping generalization considering (if you want to be scientific about it) the population size of your study.

 

[Psychubus]

So...do you treat others how you'd like to be treated?

I think the reason people are reacting so emotionally and angrily to your post is because the obvious answer is "no" and you seem to be somewhat proud of that fact.

Can you really say that you treated the men whose emotions you were trying to conquer as equals or as somehow below you, as people you could manipulate and control in order? How about these men's wives and girlfriends? Do you feel as though you treated them as equals? Or did you assume that you could outdo them in some capacity, and set off to compete with them for their man?

Your actions speak louder than your words. When your joy and self-worth is derived from proving that you can control others, that says to me that you don't see other human beings as equals. You may be proud of your skills in finding other people's weaknesses and preying on them, but don't expect too much respect and admiration from others if you brag about it. If I were you, I'd keep this kind of thing about my past to myself.

None of these attempts at attacking my character will affect me; You guys are literally insulting a part of me that no longer exists. It was ages ago. Why else would I have chosen celibacy for over a year and stuck to it? That one was not just out of respect for myself, but for others as well.

I am not the type to get embarrassed easily either. Why should I be afraid of who I am? The past is the past; it cannot be changed.

 

[DigitalDuality]

People are whatever you make of them. This belief applies to you of course, and is not universal. But if you truly do believe in respect for humanity, that humans are something more than mere bedposts or an insignificant goal, then perhaps you would actually take my words as a learning experience instead of crying and creating arguments for which have no merit behind them. (Note that by learning experience it does not necessarily mean you will agree with me, but really, look back at some of the shit you have typed out. What exactly are you trying to accomplish by being so hateful?)

I am not liable for what somebody does after I have sex with them. I'm sure you expect me to drive him to the doctor's office and sit there and hold his hand and wait while he's getting his checkup done, right? As long as I personally do not have any STD's that I know of or suspect of, that is what matters; in the same way that you have been able to justify your sex escapades, because the person you have been with does not have an s/o...that you know of.

you are liable. if you knowingly infect one person, and knowing that he is probably going to UNknowingly infect another..that is on your shoulders. YOu might take some relaxation in your escape of the responsibility that sex and diseases may hold.. might make you sleep better at night.. and yes He has the exact same level of responsibility.. to himself, to his wife.. even in passing something to you possibly. If you want to play glory-hole for an entire city, take the responsibility that comes with it or sew your knees together.

 

[4nik8r]

Its hard to attack your character when you have none.

 

[Psychubus]

you are liable. if you knowingly infect one person, and knowing that he is probably going to UNknowingly infect another..that is on your shoulders. YOu might take some relaxation in your escape of the responsibility that sex and diseases may hold.. might make you sleep better at night.. and yes He has the exact same level of responsibility.. to himself, to his wife.. even in passing something to you possibly. If you want to play glory-hole for an entire city, take the responsibility that comes with it or sew your knees together.

Once again, your argument has absolutely no basis behind it, because I have infected nobody that I know of. In fact, the last time I tested myself was last summer--no sex for half a year-- and no STD's. Karma indeed.

 

[Psychubus]

Its hard to attack your character when you have none.

So you've figured my secret out.

With that, I'm off to bed. Sweet dreams y'all.

 

[Beatlebot]

Ah. Chill people.

Why are you all acting like this person is about to break into your house and kidnap your babies?

Talk about hitting a nerve.

I think this 'experiment' sounds like the antics of a very immature and insecure person - or perhaps the invention of a troll. Either way I don't think it really warrants the strong reaction some of you are giving it. Cool down.

My own opinion? It could quite possibly be true. I find the older I get, and the more my peers become married and settled down, the more I find men who are more than willing to cheat on their wives/ girlfriends.

Before you all freak, they come onto me, and I turn them down. However I know that they keep trying and they will eventually find a woman who won't turn them down.

These aren't 'bad' men either, but loving partners and sometimes good dads. Their SO wouldn't have a clue.

Sorry kids, there is no Santa Claus

So what does this mean for relationships?

 

[miss starry]

None of these attempts at attacking my character will affect me; You guys are literally insulting a part of me that no longer exists. It was ages ago. Why else would I have chosen celibacy for over a year and stuck to it? That one was not just out of respect for myself, but for others as well.

I am not the type to get embarrassed easily either. Why should I be afraid of who I am? The past is the past; it cannot be changed.

Good for you if you've gotten over being that way. I'm just sayin' don't brag about all your conquests or defend your actions if even you don't believe it was the right way to act.

However, I don't believe you're over the past, or that this is a part of you that "no longer exists." If that were the case, the past would not affect the way you currently act (choosing celibacy) and the way you feel about relationships (everyone cheats).

To me, it's not so much whether the men will or will not eventually cheat; it's that your goal was to coerce them into sleeping with you--you played games where you changed your personality and seduced them for months on end until they finally fell for it. Have you ever thought about the fact that you probably chose men who seemed somehow vulnerable and succeptible to your advances? Would they have slept with you if you had been yourself or did you feel you had to change into someone else who they would find more attractive?

For whatever reason, you seem to have an issue with power in relationships. Perhaps someone hurt you in the past and you decided you'd never let anyone have that kind of control over you again? If you are the one calling the shots and manipulating the other person, they don't have a chance to do that to you--you are in control, because instead of getting emotionally involved you're conducting an "experiment." That's just kinda sad for you. I'm certainly not trying to attack your character here, but since you began this thread I'm assuming you were looking for some kind of feedback on your situation.

 

[fizzygirl]

Did you consider that those men who had enough free time on their hands to spend alone with you outside of their primary relationship might be more likely to cheat anyway? I in no way keep any sort of reins on my s/o, but we're pretty much together every evening, or he's at school or work. There's always some element of selection here, and I don't think you were doing much more than picking out the people that were sending off some signal that they were ripe for the pickin....

 

[brothermarcus]

^ exactly.

 

[Pippin]

To the OP:

You are sick.

I had to stop reading half way down the first page because the thought of what you did has sickened me so much.

Has coming up with this bullshit "experiment" for your slutty, disgusting behaviour help you live with your own lack of moral development?! How you prevent yourself from seeing who you really are? Prevent yourself from hating yourself?
..I would hate myself if I were you.

Homewreckers like you always scream desperate attention seeking. And look! You're getting plenty of it now!

The pleasure you get out of making them *ring* their girlfriends. Do you even understand how SICK that is?!

eh!