Ever use Silk Road? Feds might have your address

And one nothing plus one nothing equals 2 nothings..

Of course you are correct. That is not the point. Everything is not literal. I am sick over the top of my ears from hearing "they won't bother with a guy that bought an envelope full of trips. They want the bigger guy."
Based on what?
Personal experience?

This is not the park bench you are discussing. This is an on going investigation into the largest criminal network ever made available to the general public. Wholesale mayhem.

Explain to me HOW any elected or appointed official of the American government can or will retain his position if the decision is made to neglect prosecution of any case (RICO) stemming from this infiltration. I'd love to hear something other than some random fairy tale or blatant "flame type remark.

This is not a matter for trivial or arbitrary discussion. It is a matter of direct concern for perhaps, several members of BlueLight. Patting backs is not what is needed. Informed discussion is.
If you doubt any of what I post... research it. Earnestly. Don't read another post on some forum, and decide fact? not?
Read the DEA / FBI / ATF / ADC reports that have been made public. Discussion of these preliminary reports, and press releases ARE, and SHOULD BE the focus of any discussion in these matters.

As members of BlueLight you owe it to both each other, as well as the founders of the very site you tout. Speculation, and arbitrary conversation is best left for the playground, and crack houses. This site is here for your betterment, and to provide you a platform for information gathering. I suggest we ALL use it as such, and leave the Juvenal behavior at the door.

You actually have NO RIGHTS if you do not know what they are, and take you opportunity (when presented) to exorcise them. Flex the gray matter, and apply strength. This has been missing for quite some time.

Just sayin'
 
Dude. You're the one speculating that they will start hitting people left and right with RICO cases over this. Anything is possible, but it's very unlikely. It's mostly too nebulous to prosecute, with just a name/address (written on a napkin or ledger somewhere) any cheap lawyer will be able to get you off and they (prosecutors) know that. IANAL, and I did not go to law school, but even I can think of a simple defense: "Someone must have used my name and address as a drop house". Bam - without a bunch of further evidence or current activity that's it for the case/charge. It's easy to play armchair lawyer but prosecutors really like slam dunks and there's too many holes for serious racketeering charges here, it's far from being *conclusive* proof that you conspired to violate the law with them.
 
I asked you to please read before speculating. I'm not here spouting nor will I do your homework. The definition of RICO has been posted, and it contradicts every defense you stated.
If you read any one link I will be elated to discuss what your take on it is. WE are presumably here to share information, and discuss facts. for the sake of sanity, and order I beg you to consider... what is real.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/December13/JonesetalArrestsSilkRoad2PR.php

http://gizmodo.com/uh-oh-silk-road-users-are-starting-to-get-arrested-1442444359

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-silk-road-is-showing-cracks
 
Keymaker said:
To answer this post, and the one under it...
You fellas/gals are making an assumption based on something you have heard repeated countless times based on nothing.
The simple "fact" that your name is on a list of buyers owned by a (yet to be) convicted drug trafficker, qualifies you (once he is convicted) for prosecution under RICO.

It is an on going case. once his case is settled, and he pleads... The new indictments will be issued.

Don't assume the fella/gal that ordered 1/2 gram of dope is less a criminal than the people that bought 10,000 tabs of whatever. A crime is a crime, and "they" are going to set examples.
That is the only tool they have to fight on line ordering.

Google any aspect of what I said. It''s all there. Don't fool yourself.

You did not read my post... RICO!!! "They" do not have to catch you with anything! RICO!
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Well my names not on there dawwggg....

A crime is a crime but I think they would evaluate the situation a lil.

And x 10,000 to what burnt offerings Said.
 
Everyone has there own opinion D O double G.

Your point is valid but this is a different era, a broader playing field, and the tactics are a changin' homie... Education is the key to understanding. I'm only saying that without BOTH, no valid argument can be levied.
There is no disrespect or harassment intended in posting this. It is simply flipping over the coin that many of us covet. There is a reverse side to all this bubble gum and rainbow gaga.

Besides, you didn't read the links or you might have said something different.
 
I read your links key. They tell me nothing (a bunch of them link to wiki? articles on massive joint investigations into large scale dealers, a literal few of whom were charged?) and I know what RICO statutes are. There is a reasonably high burden of proof for RICO stuff, and until the guy who bought a few doses or pills is charged based on some scraps of evidence, I'll continue thinking it lottery-odds unlikely. Not that I care, I never used the sites myself.
 
I have but doubt they would be after me for small purchases in comparison … Didn't think they were still in operatio
 
I've said it several times on a couple threads. I will not spoon feed information. The people that care to learn what is happening will leave this site for a few hours, and follow the bread crumbs. The prosecutions are happening. NSA is compiling illegally gained information, and passing it down the line.

The way it works... One "tip" is handed to an investigator. He determines the viability of apprehension, and prosecution ie: living? location?
He then takes this to a peer or group of peers for review. They in turn hand it over to the assigned task coordinator. They combine cases on many factors. Mainly it is an effort to create economic viability.
In this instance (silk road) MANY careers are pivoting on the tip of a needle. They HAVE to show these "networks can be quelled. The easiest way to achieve this goal is to attack the schools of "small fish". Once you take the small fish out of an eco system, it collapses, and dies.

Prosecuting the end users of Silk Road" and related sites will drive down the market until it is no longer viable to operate such sites.
Yes some of you are right. Taking numbers, and kicking in doors will not work. It's too small, and the economic viability is not there.

Convict a distributor, and every person / business dealing he has had is now guilty of conspiracy. Viability is no longer in the picture. Prosecution is a simple matter of logistics at this point.

Disregard all of this. It makes no difference to me. Really!

Point is you must apply the same thought process they do. Action must be taken, and your on the list. what's the issue?

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/dark-web-seizures/
 
Keymaker said:
I've said it several times on a couple threads. I will not spoon feed information. The people that care to learn what is happening will leave this site for a few hours, and follow the bread crumbs. The prosecutions are happening. NSA is compiling illegally gained information, and passing it down the line.

The way it works... One "tip" is handed to an investigator. He determines the viability of apprehension, and prosecution ie: living? location?
He then takes this to a peer or group of peers for review. They in turn hand it over to the assigned task coordinator. They combine cases on many factors. Mainly it is an effort to create economic viability.
In this instance (silk road) MANY careers are pivoting on the tip of a needle. They HAVE to show these "networks can be quelled. The easiest way to achieve this goal is to attack the schools of "small fish". Once you take the small fish out of an eco system, it collapses, and dies.

Prosecuting the end users of Silk Road" and related sites will drive down the market until it is no longer viable to operate such sites.
Yes some of you are right. Taking numbers, and kicking in doors will not work. It's too small, and the economic viability is not there.

Convict a distributor, and every person / business dealing he has had is now guilty of conspiracy. Viability is no longer in the picture. Prosecution is a simple matter of logistics at this point.

Disregard all of this. It makes no difference to me. Really!

Point is you must apply the same thought process they do. Action must be taken, and your on the list. what's the issue?

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/dark-web-seizures/
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I think you've put too much thought in to this. It is not economically viable for the government to prosecute end users. I've never used Silk Road personally however, I've known plenty of people irl to have done this sort of thing and the only ones who got caught were distributing (frequent rule-breakers) and had been informed on.

Will people go to jail? Yes. But not as many as you suggest. There isn't enough manpower or money.
 
You and I both know how the system works. Correct they are not going to chase EVERY user of silk road to the ends of the earth. BUT they will deter funding from other programs to make a "statement" here. This is a highly visible case, with more media attention than I'm sure they would like.
If a line is not drawn in the sand with substantial arrests leading directly from seized records, and initial prosecutions... they will be showing the world that they can not stop this sort of trafficking.

This is ALL I have been saying. If you use the road... be SURE you are untraceable. If you have used it in the past... make sure to look over your shoulder, and leave nothing behind.

Fact of the matter is... I'd look into a new method of acquiring what you want. Anyone that disagrees with that, needs to be locked up anyway.
 
Keymaker said:
Fact of the matter is... I'd look into a new method of acquiring what you want. Anyone that disagrees with that, needs to be locked up anyway.
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Look into a new way cool but who are you to say who of use deserve to be locked up, if anything cutting out the dangers and shit of people who use drugs recreationally..
 
Keymaker said:
Fact of the matter is... I'd look into a new method of acquiring what you want. Anyone that disagrees with that, needs to be locked up anyway.
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That is a extremely short sighted and IMHO outright stupid comment. By purchasing in this method you are taking the dealing off the streets, and utilising vendors who if you do your research and time building up a solid purchasing relationship pride their self on providing clean and high quality items to their buyers. I myself see this as a better way than looming around on some street corner trying to find some shady person who could be selling anything but what they say it is.
 
I can't see any way of justifying any type of "drug deal" to begin with.
It's an unlawful action at best, and a source of funding for some of the most dangerous people on the planet at worst.

Your point is fair taken in context but... it's lubricious. Illicit drugs create despair. No matter the source. This is an entirely different topic tho. My apologies.
 
TheRapperGoneBad said:
Look into a new way cool but who are you to say who of use deserve to be locked up, if anything cutting out the dangers and shit of people who use drugs recreationally..
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Sorry I missed this post.
To answer your question without using any dramatics or opinions of my own... The agreed social laws of most civil countries are what determined that people that purchase / sell drugs in an unlicensed manner are breaking said laws, and are committing an arrest-able offense. This has nothing to do with MY feelings on the subject.
 
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