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European MDMA vs. American

both taken in a home chill out party setting with pretty much the same friends and music going on ecsplosiv, and ive taken the pink diamonds twice :)
 
Fact is we are talking about an illegal chemical that is produced, sold and consumed on the black market. There are many factors that go into it that many of us don't know about.
 
Ringfinger said:
Most people would argue that MDMA pills feel different than MDMA crystal.
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From your post though it is obvious that you have no experience with crystal and very little with pills, and yet are so sure about your statements.

Maybe travel a bit through Europe, i.e. Ibiza in the summer, Barcelona, Berlin, try out the mdma there, and then come back to this thread.
 
The only certainty about these differing MDxx compounds is that there is no certainty!
 
tragiclemming said:
I regularly have both. There is no difference IMO.
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Hello.

but on a serious note you have not tried enough pills over your time to judge at all, twice in america then twice with crystal in europe?

Im not being funny but id rather be in a continent where the pills are either mdma OR a different chemical, the pills are high dosed at 160-180++ mg, the pills are rarely lower than 80mg

rather than a continent where the high dosed pills are considered 90-100mg, the pills are adulterated with speed, the piperazine pills have about 5mg of MDMA added purely to fool the tester 8)

If you had some pills from 2011 from the UK and the US and you gave them both to about 50 different people all in the same setting at different times, id probally listen to such a study
 
another daft thread

UK pills definitely contain less retardium

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dee_dee said:
ive been taking mdma for 23 years. nothing to do with set and setting when it comes to the difference between the way mdma can feel imo for me personally. sorry.
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Like many people you don't really get what "set & setting" means. It doesn't mean - "I was feeling pretty chill and with my mates both times, therefore the set and setting where the same".

It means the totality of environmental factors, including your particular personal brain/body chemistry, how that can fluctuate on a day to day basis depending on what you've eaten and the time of day, your subconscious mental states, the drugs you have been taking in the days or weeks prior and a host of other things.

you have a trippy synthetic feeling mdma (this is the one that makes music sound crystal clear etc etc and ive experienced this with one or two of the different crystals ive tried recentley also) and u have a more loved up glowy mdma. take the pink diamonds and see if theres much visual or auditory disortian or change, theres fuck all nothing like that going on apart from u just feel nice and pleasent (and ive experienced that with one or two crystals ive tried as well recentley)
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MDMA is MDMA. If you are consistently getting very different effects from the same batches, then they are not the same substances. Either the synthesis is poor, or they are a mixture of chemicals, or not MDMA at all.

The bottom line, as ever, is you have no idea what's in the pills or powder you are consuming. Have you tested them with an EZ test kit?
 
nope i havent. this thread, whoever started this, is giving his opinions, whether there correct or not. are you going to start being all arsey sciencey again then? because science cannot answer these questions whether you like to think so or not, and never have been able to. so whats all of a sudden changed now in 23 years that makes you think you magically no everything

my red star report has got good star ratings, so it must be pretty accurate to how that particular pill is and my opinions on it

im even beginning to get messages from people that agree that mdma can feel different, and even down to the descriptions i give to those differences, but they choose not to get involved half the time due to arsey people.

that speaks volumes really doesnt it
 
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dee_dee said:
nope i havent. this thread, whoever started this, is giving his opinions, whether there correct or not. are you going to start being all arsey sciencey again then? because science cannot answer these questions whether you like to think so or not, and never have been able to. so whats all of a sudden changed now in 23 years that makes you think you magically no everything

my red star report has got good star ratings, so it must be pretty accurate to how that particular pill is and my opinions on it

im even beginning to get messages from people that agree that mdma can feel different, and even down to the descriptions i give to those differences, but they choose not to get involved half the time due to arsey people.

that speaks volumes really doesnt it
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I've had plenty of pills and MDMA crystals in my time that felt very different, from the loved up, to the speedy, to the mongy etc.. especially very different to those I had in my youth :\

Trying to speculate why there are these differences is rather pointless, there are a host of possible reasons - different additional chemicals etc. What we can definitely say is there are not "different" kinds of MDMA.

are you going to start being all arsey sciencey again then? because science cannot answer these questions whether you like to think so or not, and never have been able to
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Science can answer these questions, whether you like to think so, or not. :\
 
it would be extremely easy to answer these questions through science by taking samples of a load of pills and mdma powder from us and europe and analysing their chemical composition.
 
specialspack said:
I've had plenty of pills and MDMA crystals in my time that felt very different, from the loved up, to the speedy, to the mongy etc.. especially very different to those I had in my youth :\

Trying to speculate why there are these differences is rather pointless, there are a host of possible reasons - different additional chemicals etc. What we can definitely say is there are not "different" kinds of MDMA.



Science can answer these questions, whether you like to think so, or not. :\
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i bet you right now, and i no i can, go to london tonight, and score 3 grams of different type crystals, all three in nice chunks, completley untampered with.

i cant comment on the test kit, as i dont have one yeah, but i no for a fact i will take one specific one and feel like a heavy dirty mong and just want to sit down, and i no one of the other ones, i will take and feel very rushy with lots of pins and needles and a static electric feeling going on, and i can get one more where music is the focus, and sounds are amazing on it yeah and everything feels and sounds crisp and clean and perfect, and it has absolutley nothing to do with my mood at the time or whether im in a club or at a home, and i can also guarantee those specific types of md will make me feel the same way again with those same individual characteristics again

so lets have the science experts that no everything answer me please why is that?
 
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The different effects described are simply caused by the different dosages. A low dose will give a more pleasant lovedup feeling. With higher doses you feel more like you describe.
 
adam phinel said:
The different effects described are simply caused by the different dosages. A low dose will give a more pleasant lovedup feeling. With higher doses you feel more like you describe.
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so in all three cases i have been taking to much?

i find it odd, because the dirty mong heavy sit down one is the one i hardly took anything of. so in all three cases what your saying is ive taken to much and they are all side effects?

in none of these cases did i feel like i had od'd or felt sick or anything worrying whatsoever. i no what it feels like to feel like youve been poisoned by mdma and youve over done it, none of these examples have i ever felt that way.

so science is effectivley saying now how you feel physically is completley random like playing a fruit machine

that sounds complete bollox. i can buy the dose related depends on how you feel, but not to the point where some are rushy, some are clean and some are mongy, and always appear to be
 
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