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Brightonhead..ah, the old hardcore punks, great fellas and wonderful subjects for a "where are they now?" show. Didn't know the Thai fighter myself but he was close friends with the gang to whom I bequeathed my supersquat when I moved on. Given the regal treatment and a double dose as befitting a man used to the pure on his first visit on arrival home, he promptly keeled over in the shower,.which was a homecoming lesson in thedifferences between brown and Asian white. By all accounts, a man who knew how to keep his head under heavy pressure and where to focus his energy. I'm sure you've heard both urban myth and the real interesting true tales but, of course, the best stories are those best kept under wraps.

Ha! Yes, the OD in the loo definitely is the artist formerly known as "The Nose". Excellent. He's actually cleaned up to a degree himself now and is the VP of a "bank" in the Far East! Truth, as you suggest, can be stranger than fiction. I don't know if you read the book that the girl he was arrested with wrote, but that has some incredible stuff in it. She obviously didn't have a lot of good things to say about him, with an accurate description ("his enormous nose and risible haircut") being amongst the kindest. You probably knew his namesake as well "The Yob", from Cambridge. I heard only recently that he took his own life after his doctor stopped the morphine prescription he'd had for years. Tragic: poor guy. Anyway... I'm way off topic.
 
Hi everyone! :) I hope everyone is keeping well! :)

I'm just letting people know that I've been told that Kat should be out on the 15th March, it will be good to see her back on the thread! :)
 
That period of 97/2000 imo was when the gear on the street was the strongest . It was £90 a 8th in BRistol . After that 2001 drought it never got better than that . It did get good but those few years were ridiculously easy to hook up for good product.

Sounds about right to me too. Was definitely getting some ree-dick-you-less-lee good gear around that time. Decent prices too - £120/3.5g where I was - cheaper if you knew the bloke well enough and he wasn't too deep in hock to the crackman. Went to shit after that and never seemed to get much better. Aside from a few batches here and there that put you right on yer arse. But mostly shite-okay quality for the next few years. Almost never actually good. Is partly why I got much more into the rock around then probably. Then the rock went to shit. Then I knocked it on the head. At least on a full-time basis. Feel sorry for some of the folks here doing 0.5g or more to get owt off it. That's fukkin nuts. Sounds worse than when I was last using regular and that was bad enough :\
 
With you all on the late 90's, my lips used to go blue after a hit, and that was off 1 bag and we got 3 for £15 ahhh fuckin sweet...them was the days!!
The gear round here is getting well better, looked in the mirror last night at my eyes and when I could open them they were pinned like a motherfucker.
Just counting the last 60 mins till I finish work and go and score.

@cornish, if u can bang half a gram and not think you've done a bit too much it can't be up to scratch, I swear if you hit half a gram of this the gear I'm getting you'd be on your knees
 
I have to agree with the quality of the crack being top notch in the late 90's.
I remember one day when we scored my mate drove us to the top of a multi storey carpark so we could all enjoy a nice pipe each.
One of my mates took in a big lungfull and the next minute he was throwing his guts up out of the car door due to the strength of the rocks.
I used to enjoy smoking it but it always made me go very quiet and I just didn't want to talk to anyone.
Once I had the first hit off the pipe I just couldn't stop until my rocks had gone and I had cleaned out the residue from the pipe and smoked that as well.
Good thing that I can no longer have access to it.
 
when i use to get rather big chunks of coke that was off the block - proper mother of pearl gear i use to bang up .05 and the bells would ring and the treble was up to 11 and sweat like a MF. Use tro make a packet and had it layed on 2 weeks at a time until i endd up owing the man money with my over indulgence. The last good W i was getting regularly was probably about 2005 ish but then i stopped smoking it un til thelast couple of years and thats only once in a blue moon.
 
Thanks blondin!

30 for a g! And good quality, wow! Someone mentioned a g for 40 the other day, needless to say I laughed!
 
Thanks blondin!

30 for a g! And good quality, wow! Someone mentioned a g for 40 the other day, needless to say I laughed!

Fella who first introduced me properly to opiworld nearly died in my arms after shooting £20 worth of that nice late-90s gear when it first arrived. He was oldskool and used to #4 Asian white stuff (Hong Kong and Thai specifically as he lived in and around there for a while) had adapted to shitey UK brown then got ahead of himself when the lush stuff arrived. Needless to say that once I'd established he wasn't actually gonna die but just turn blue/grey and wheeze and bubble a bit I followed suit cos I was clucking. Came round to find myself in his arms being slapped back into consciousness. Instant karma. Then we went out on the piss. Gotta <3 the 90s for drugs of all descriptions =D

/HR
 
Ha! No idea actually, Ponti. We parted ways when he got banged up for dealing and I didn't... cos I wasn't, obviously :o

But being banged up for a few years changed him and the scene outside chnaged and so did I so it was never the same after that. Last I recall he moved away but within the UK. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he was back out in the Far Easy shooting scag and shagging ladyboys now though. Was kinda his thing really. Only man I know who could've ever gotten away with introducing himself to the prison population by telling all in earshot of his fave sexual experience - being "the meat" in a ladyboy sandwich. Oh yeah. He did just that. And not only lived to tell the tale but flourished as a result. Wannabe wankstas should take note of how to make an entrance in true style :D<3%)
 
You'd know far better than I, Ponti. This would've been early 90s or thereabouts when he was off on his jollies. Think he was mainly Hong Kong based and he did say it was a pretty shady scene you had to really know people to not be ripped/robbed/killed before you could score properly in. Seems to be pretty standard to potter about the place when in that part of the world though and I know he did plenty of that too. Had some stories on him anyway :D
 
Was the impression I got for sure. Seemed his entire existence - and that of most ex-pats he mentioned - consisted entirely of hard drugs, heavy drinking, ladyboys, hard drugs, prostitutes, heavy drinking, ladyboys, hard drugs, heavy drinking, ladyboys, and occasional bar work. Still got the t-shirt from some HK bar he gave me. I can live the dream vicariously ;)
 
Fizz-popz have finally ended (I think) thank fuck, Ponti. Never again. And I mean it this time. Once was testing the waters. Twice was more than I'll ever need to be absolutely sure of how shite daily tram use is. Never again. But does feel extra specially good to be off the crap now I must admit :D

*checks cheap flights*
 
Ah ok quite a bit longer than I thought, it is too tempting when you can just walk into any pharmacy and buy them though. What's the shortest period you've got withdrawals from?
 
Ah ok thanks for the advice, just realised this is the heroin thread so sorry for asking loads of off topic questions
 
@ponti, what do you mean you was born 20 years too late, I'd swap you all my experiences (good ones obviously), for that china white in a fuckin heartbeat
 
Hey Comrades. Its the Spun. Wanted to update my friends on this thread. So I have been smoking gear sporadically but more consistantly lately. I was clean off dope (but not EtOH) for 2 weeks after the early Jan relapse and peak up to Jan 19th I think. Well chipped alittle but then the last week I used 2 days, went 2 days, used 3 days, went 2 days, started to get mild WDs managed by bup. For someone that gets strung out fast my symptoms were low grade. Well gave in tonight. Got brown mex powder, intermediate quality by our standards. On sat got a hard v chunck of tar of good quality- after getting raped by my middle man it actually lasted 3 days with long periods of innability to keep eyes open. Work brike up last 2 days. Felt mild WDs 36 hrs out, bup, then more tonight.

My friend hooked me up with 50 mg of methadone pills- so thats my safety net, sick of this shit.

But rehab out of question- gotta work. So I was gonna ask for advice, but I don't know- well see how I am tommorow. My connecy was ok at first but been getting inevitable diminishing returns. He was selling meth but I think he used more then he sold, now he's always broke.

thats a horrible drug- I used it on this relapse several times- but its hazardous quite euphoric but hazardous and it turns people scandolous- can't see why its more acceptable in Aus than gear.

So anyway, trying to stop this before it gets worse, but the high from gear- the homecoming feeling that snags you... well my connect thats really a middleman- he is giving me less and less for my $- way overpriced- practically paying Hawaii prices- but quality is usally unstanding- clear black/ grey trail, floral taste, strong high (but remeber still somewhat of a chipper). But I know the taste of good dope.

Now after the kick down he gets when I score he wants me to help him move stuff to storage- he peranoid to go out. Lives downtown and has warrants and alot of the cops know he aledgedly- by the way I live 45 minutes from his house- i feel bad for the dude but thats beyond rediculous and i told him. He asked I drop money off on way to work (at 5:00 am- I told him no in uncertain terms. Man I'm a sucker and sofety but thats rediculous.)

I could find a better connect but want to get out of the game. Hell I could go an extra half hour to open air Tijuana like a shitload of dopefiends do here but i really dont want to do that- like going to Iraq to score and if I have dope to bring home- waiting 1 hous to walk across- I'll have to smoke in line so i don't lose my mind...lol.

Anyway, I brought up drugs, inc from nat geo. Some factoids.... Detroit has a huge heroin, coke, crack scene. There are whole districts of abandoned buildings... enough open space to occupy San Francisco. Ask yourselves, what state has the biggest gear per capita. Answer to follow (suprizing). Hawaii has the biggest meth scene (no suprise). Small dope scene- tar from mex. The price is $40-$60 gram on the mainland. In Hawaii its about $240/ gram for gear. In detroit heroin is called Blow, the police are rare because of low tax base so drug dealers and the US border patrol are involved in law enforcement. With all the abandoned areas the border patrol patrols large parts of the shore line. Canada is across the detroit river. Apparently there is some tar, mostly colombian dope, but also as a rarity alot of SE Asian gear (probably crossing over from Canada.)

New Orleans has thrived as a drug destination after the Katrina. When people left alot of them made good connections in places like Huston as refugees. Coke, Cannabis and to a lesser extent heroin are the big drugs. White squatters called gutter punks moved there a few months after. Still places to squat. More independent dealers- better quality. One gutter punk related that after Katrina there were pill bottles of Rx drugs in the streets and medicine cabinets of abadoned buildings. They would take adderal, other amphetamines to make "amphetamine fudge" to work to steal copper from condemed buildings to buy coke.

Anyway, Alaska has the biggest heroin scene of the 50 states now. An estimated 3% of the population of ancorage, the lasrgest city have habits!

Elsewhere in the USA, Puerto Rico has a huge scene. I think they said 1 out of 5 people either use drugs or are strung out. There are all kind of dope spots through the Island. And alot of dope goes through there, once unloaded its on US soil so it can get to the mailand without customs. Alot of coke goes through there then on to the US mainland. The heroin stays. And there is a pecularity- a drug called "Anesthesia" or Xalazine. A vet drug. Acoording to the video it gets people fucked up- used with gear and sometimes coke as a combo. The kick is supposed to be worse than dope. It is a "horse traqulizer but not Ketamine like- its actually an alpha 2 agonist (like clonidine) but more selective. Used in horses for castrations and dental procedures- but again people on it look like they are on PCP- all fucked up or like they drank a bottle of vodka. Gnarly tropical abscesses area big problem in that territory.

New York was ok- have elite drug dealers for affluent, delivery services, ect... LA- Hollywood was the emphasis- talked about doctors for the stars- parts of the city that have huge volumes of meth, coke, and gear going throgh as well as cannabis- commerce, CA- major hub. Now they were saying the worst quality drugs go to Hollywood and its wannabes..lol. Went into some detail over the 1,000 cannabis dispesaries in the city and had one "illegitimate dealer gripping."

I'll leave out Montana and Las Vegas I missed. They had an episode from last year on crack- was cool to see how coke is made in the jungles and highlands of Peru.

And the last thing I wanted to mention- the last and only international episode. They start out with the high end partying. Discuss areas like the square mile/city of London, east end, west end, and Camden (which they intimate is a happening part of London. Anyway it starts out with a dealer who calls himself "the postman" that says he only gets supper quality coke and sells it to affluent clientel- actors, musicians, TV presenters, Sheiks, Marquises, Dukes, Lords and ladies, ect...who knows if hes talking shit- says they rely on his discretion and quality. Hands cola over in cellphone... calles an 1/8 OZ a Henry (as in the VIII) and a quarter a "farmers daughter. Then they interview and guy the fixes deal between British crime syndicates and the colombians.

I had 2 big suprises- they barely mentioned heroin and E. And 2 cannabis was characterized as being a working class drugs which in the states in cutts across all class boundaries.

The episode gave the impression that coke use was on a large scale among the upper and middle class- it seemed like a fad, 250,000 users in London. So where is the E, gear, GHB, ket- did this episode leave drugs out, or not give a complete picture.
they try
Trippy to see alot of Brits involved in the drug trade, more minorities in San Diego although that has changed here as rich kids from the suburbs have gone to TJ to pick up OZs and sell them to their peers- I think they trying to be coll and hard - lame. Its become such a fad down here in the last 5 years- heroin anonymous is like a fashion show


By the way it just started hailing hard here in southern CA. Anyway, I wonder how acurate this is. Is coke realy huge in the London scene. They were talking about 100 ponds/ G for the normal coke and 200 plus quid for elite guy's supper coke. So I hope I didn't bore you guys with the info. The shows are entertaining- I think- if you can watch them.

Anyway hope I don't step across the line of being a chipper to dopefiend- never had this dilema. Always went all out using daily for months. But this chipping fucks with your head. Anyone have any info on chipping advice? Know everyones different. Need to get outta the game but have been drinking consistantly since relapse- thats worse than gear, maybe marginally better than meth (lots of Euphoria and can fuck for over 12 hours on that drug if you can keep it up- sleep during kick and it actually takes dope sickness away for a few hours.) Almost hooked up with a girl when I was smoking ovr dudes places- beautiful 20 something with long black hair. Glad I didn't since I'm married but its such a fucking prosexual drug- worse than alcohol but your lucid even if your thinking takes a bizarre turn. Even though I'm writting like I've been tweaking I'm not. We'll see how I do tommmorow- will provide an update and condensed version.

Thanks, Your cousin from the Land of The Free (more like enslaved)- Spun
 
Hi Jspun,good to see you back again mate. It's always interesting to read about the drug scene in different American cities.
Hope you doing well and that all is good with you.
 
Hello all! And word up jspun, yeah I have been watching that series keenly and enjoyed the London one; however was dissappointed by the lack of heroin discussion like you mentioned!

I took 0.2mg of subutex at around midnight last night, I am planning on making it my last dose, after a week or two of rapid tapering. Got 7g of mam-2201 blend,10 xanax,10 blues and 10 k-pins. L-theannine, 5-HTP, Lopermide and multivitamins.

Let's do this damn thing!!!

Social services were round this week...snoopy bitches! Well i'm gonna drug free by the time my kid comes so FUCK YOU!

And we just put a 250k offer on a flat...exciting times!

Blondin holla at me
 
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