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European Heroin Discussion v We like noise, it's our choice (v.17)

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Tried some #4 for the 1st time today. Albeit a v underwhelming (30mg) amount.
Also had some alright stuff (usual base) from brizzle. (again, not enough to gauge it properly).

And finally, tried some new local stuff which seemed considerably better than it has been in ages.
But the hit was prob 100-120mgs so was bound to be noticeable.
 
Did anyone answer CKs question earlier about how much is best to whack on the foil? My smoking technique isn't brilliant, so need to be careful not to waste any.
 
^as much as you're comfortable with? i haven't noticed it changes much, i.e., put twice as much on it takes about twice as long to smoke. i guess i usually do about half a bag, but then it depends the size of your bags. just find what you can do with good technique/enjoy.
 
So it makes no difference then? Was just curious if for example, it was better putting on more as it was harder to burn it than using a small amount, but if you say it makes no difference really, then thats good with me, cheers :)!
 
I don't know if this is bad technique but I like to put 3/4 of the bag on the foil and then add the rest when I find it's running out a bit. Probably makes no difference though.
 
Would there be any difference in the amount of 6-MAM & 3-MAM in #3 heroin compared to #4? Apologies if this is a really stupid question
 
Yeah would love to get some decent tar! Only reason i ask is because i heard 6-MAM is what causes a lot of the euphoria from brown.

Also just a quick one. Im getting it to run fine (well, not great, but its still runs) on the foil, but it doesnt seem to be producing much smoke; can anyone please give me a reason as to why this may be?
 
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what do you mean? it shouldn't produce that much smoke (or "vapour" to be technically correct), i'd describe it as a less than a lit cig when you're not inhaling i guess.
 
Ah right if it isnt meant to produce a lot then thats all good then. Although, if your saying it should produce as much as a blown-out candle, it seems to produce a lot less than that, apart from when i get the flame too close & it seems to burn it rather than vaporize it. Well i think its me burning it, as it frazzles and leaves a black crust. Apologies for the rookie questions - appreciate the answers :)
 
IMO if you're Tooter is close enough to your cocky then you shouldn't really see any smoke , that's unless you miss a bit through either a trail off or you stop inhaling before you release your lighter.
When exhaling you obviously know to hold down the smoke for as long as feels comfortable however, you should still feel your lungs fill up with smoke .
Practice is all it takes , you'll get there in the end I'm sure .
All the best .
 
Yeah thats the thing, i cant really feel a lot of smoke going into my lungs, so not too sure what im doing wrong. When you say "trail off" do you mean when the beetle sort of splits into two & one bit stays in place & the other runs down the foil quite quickly? That seems to happen to me quite often & i think this may be where im going wrong!

Probably for the best i dont get in TOO much practice though haha. But as ive said before, im limited to having to wait 5/6 days for it to arrive & only ever buy a .5 at a time, so this should stop me running into any serious problems.
 
Yes Spliff a trail off is exactly that , which is where you waste a fair bit .
Can i ask how long are your lines ? As i smoke between 3-4 lines in one go without a breath in between, my lines are approximately 6-8 in long .
Maybe that's why i feel my lungs fill up .
Just stick to what your happy with as it's sounds like your in control which is the main thing .
 
Yeah i would say my lines are about that length as well. No idea how you manage to get 3-4 in one go?! Madness haha. Im an absolute novice at smoking (mainly snort, which is alright for someone with only a small tolerance) so where my beetle sometimes doesnt run properly & where my lungs cant take in air long enough, it usually takes me about 3 attempts just to do 1 line, which is a real fucking pain as im sure you can imagine!

This thread definitely has the safest people on here - many thanks for the help Louie :D!
 
6mam is what makes tar so good - if its made right- in fact its not really heroin. im down to my last oc80 now nothing till the trust fund end of the month- yeah i now you all feell relly sorry for me lol
 
a hate all that shit of running it up and down in lines l preffer to spot it bit by bit,,think after jagging it for 11 year am still looking for that quick rush a got when injecting....l have been told am wasting it by doing it this way but a cant see how its still going up in smoke and into my lungs apart from that a smoke the gear alot quicker by spotting it
 
@juspun, psychonauticunt: From what I've heard and seen, we only get freebase here. But it's the first time I got it in pressed form, usually it's a brown chunky powder. I only started chipping again recently but I'm under the impression that the quality improved since 2011.
 
i like to run my gear. i put one bag on. smoke a bit of that, then put the other on. it seems to run longer. god that stuff 2 years ago was awful...just ran and ran and ran and ran. i am going to give up the gear this year. 13 year habit...a bakers dozen of a habit i have. cannot afford it realistically. want to work a bit less and make more of my non working hours,. just gotta expand my interests and stopthe procrastinating. replace my h habit with a spotless house business.
 
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