End of the Mayan Calendar - 21st December - Being prepared

[laugh]

so there is pretty good chance jesus will be back soon to save us?

 

[cassandragemini]

^ well statistically there is exactly the same probabilty of it happening as the Mayan thing; zero.

 

[Esotericism]

A guy called Jesus was driving the bus I was on the other day. Maybe he has returned to solve Sydney's transport nightmare.
FYI turns out Jesus is South American as well.

 

[JoshE]

I remember watching a show on Foxtel about these family's in America who have sold everything they own to build some kind of bunker that will supposedly keep them safe from said apocalypse. LOL, sucks to be them if nothing happens.

 

[daytryptr]

I semi-believed something was going to happen on 12/21/2012, until i looked into the mayan religious/spiritual ideology. Not to different than most religious cults from around the globe spanning millennia. With a "dash" of human sacrifice, and the same old mumbo jumbo dualistic underworld/heavens oversimplification.

They were drawing conclusions based on physical observation, then thinking about it in a context of looking into the heavens, and postulating about the future based on that. Real freaking scientific, personally its about as relevant as the fundamentalist Christians who believe in an "apocalyptic/end day scenario".

Not that their cosmological observerations were wrong, and they couldn't use those skills to make a very accurate cosmologically referenced calendar (relative to their technology at the time), but they percieved their observations in a religious cult manner, and basically interpreted observational phenomenon, through a religious lens.

Like believing in the theory of the big bang, then saying all reaction must first have action, so god blew his metaphorical load to create the big bang, and scientists just are proving god exists.

Theres no science to back up apocalyptic claims, new age social/cultural/ecological transformation claims, tmk's timewave zero theory, age of aquarius BS, etc. Correlation does not imply causation, and just because cosmological objects line up in X configuration does not back up claims that will have affects here on the relatively irrelevant (on a cosmic scale) pale blue dot we call home.

Its just going to be another birthday for me, 21st oddly enough .

 

[junkie skumbag]

The ability to accurately predict, to the day, the future in a universe with sooo many constantly changing variables is as difficult as it is ridiculous. Has anyone who believes in this Mayan calendar thing read any genuine scientific or astronomy papers on the subject or at least read something by someone, preferably a scientist, who specialises in mayan history? Or are people getting their information from people and texts and quite possibly silly documentaries (made by the entertainment industry) that have no footing in proper astronomy or real historical findings and research and do not follow any set of fundamental principles that can provably produce results that are scientifically watertight? I think too many people have taken what people like Terence McKenna, that silly documentary zeitgeist and other sources of unreliable new age pop culture trivia have said as gospel without investigating the rest of the information that many very qualified critics have provided. I looked into this a while back and I was overwhelmed by the amount of evidence there was disproving all of these apocalyptic theories and this supposed evidence of some kind of spiritual awakening in mankind, there's just so much evidence against it from all sides that i don't see how anybody could believe it. For one the Mayan calendar wasn't designed by the Mayans as a tool to predict the future at all, they had no intention whatsoever of predicting any doomsday events - the doomsday idea was created by new age westerners looking for something to validate their illogical and scientifically unproven theories and ideas. It was simply an impressively accurate and well designed calendar for its time.

Like spacejunk said we have plenty of problems in the world that are far higher up the to do list and very real that need fixing. If people are worried about this end of the world business then focusing on things like climate change, pollution, over reliance on unrenewable resources and overpopulation should be the priority because they will very provably be causing us a whole heap of trouble in the future.

great post mate

 

[junkie skumbag]

I remember watching a show on Foxtel about these family's in America who have sold everything they own to build some kind of bunker that will supposedly keep them safe from said apocalypse. LOL, sucks to be them if nothing happens.

lol i was watching pen and teller bullshit n they had this crazy cunt on there who wrapped his house up completely to protect him from radiation lol

 

[puffpuffpass]

Are you talking about the "War on Drugs - Bullshit" half hour doco, or Doomsday Preppers? I dont remember tinfoil hats lol *edit* just realized I only have one episode...

 

[pisspotnrock]

I recon the best thing about this 2012 shit is I can use it as an excuse to fry out on the meth for a week prior and do whatever else I can think of thatd usually be frowned upon by my mates %)

I've seen a few episodes of doomsday preppers and TBH, all I think the whole time is how can people honestly waste so much of their money and sparetime (in most cases it seems I'm reffering to their whole life savings and ~90% of their free time yeah?) on preparing for something that very well may not happen in their lifetime.. dont get me wrong, each individual situation theyre preppin for is plausible, but I doubt its gonna happen in their lifetime, if at all...

I will be honest, the only 'doomsday' related thing thats caught my eye (although not related to 2012, just the fact that things are changing) have been the frequency and severity of most the natural disasters in the ~10 years, mabey a bit more... hurricane katrina, the quakes/tsnami's that hit indonesia n japan for example.. not to mention, although not as catastrophic, the quake in NZ n floods in Aus.

I recon I (and everyone else born around my era) are gonna experiance/wittness some interesting events/situations in this lifetime of ours.. I mean, just thinking of how much this world has changed politically, socially and technologically in the past 50-100 years in comparison to the last 2000 odd years (or just make that since the dawn of man) literally blowns me away.. fuckn mind blowing when you think about it really....

 

[justsayknow]

^ I think that Doomsday preppers show is a bit extreme but I do like the idea of being self sufficient. Its fucken scary how much we rely on the big corporate supply chain. Only a couple of companies in control of everyones food, water and power.

 

[puffpuffpass]

I love amphetamines, maybe a bit too much

Things are definitely changing, the seasons here are definitely dragging

Jan 2012: The weather bureau says an extreme cold front has broken a series of low temperature records for Canberra, Goulburn and the Snowy Mountains. The southern tablelands and Victoria's Alpine region have also been hit by the summer chill.

A rapidly moving cold front from Antarctica moved though Tasmania, Victoria, New South Wales and the ACT. The icy and changeable weather delivered a low of -4 degrees Celsius and a dusting of snow to the Snowy Mountains. Forecaster Sean Carson says the snow is unseasonable, but not rare.

Without providing any data to compare it to so we can make our own decisions, makes you wonder... Meanwhile in the Gold Coast A FIRE warning has been issued to southeast Queensland as this week's heatwave continues. The warning comes as energy authorities fear the Gold Coast's electricity supply could fail because of the extreme demand for power brought on by the heatwave conditions.

Now remember QLD is right next to NSW, with such extreme changes in weather isn't normal.


Weather events in parts of the world you wouldn't expect: Colorado's Waldo Canyon fire was extended by a thunderstorm instead of extinguished by rain as you would expect.

In Florida, the day before memorial day, almost 84% of Florida was officially in drought, and a stip of North Florida from Jacksonville west to near Cedar Key was classified as in "exceptional" drought, the most dire category. An insidious, advancing drought was squelched in roughly one month's time...in the "Sunshine State." Famine to feast in the rainfall department. This all said, significant rain primarily bypassed other exceptional drought areas from southeast Alabama to near Augusta, Ga.

A U.S. Airways plane's tires sank into a rut created by excessive heat on a runway at Reagan National Airport in Washington, D.C. in July, and had to be towed out. The water temperature at the South Buoy in Lake Michigan reached 80 degrees in early July, the earliest such warmth on record, there.

To name a few...

 

[puffpuffpass]

We have used up ~80 % of earths resources, with an ever growing population something will have to be changed.

This gives me the shits:

So what do we do? How do we stop the demise of the Earth.

“Nothing we can do,” said the lead Tasmanian researcher. ”We should just all party like it’s 2015!”

The uses of Cannabis hemp are as varied and multi-faceted as any of us could ever possibly imagine or hope for. This plant can indeed provide us solutions to MANY of the critical imbalances we as an industrial culture have created in the brief span of the past few hundred years. From the production of all forms of paper products, to plastics as tough as steel, to fuel that can replace all oil, gas, coal and nuclear power consumption, to a rich source of vegetable oil and protein, to all manner and form of fabrics and textiles, to medicinal products for the management of pain, chronic neurologic diseases, convulsive disorders, migraine headache, anorexia, mental illness, and bacterial infections, to 100% non-toxic paints and varnishes, to lubricants, to building materials that can replace dry wall and plywood, to carpets, rope, laces, sails, . . . the list rolls on and on and on.

And the only thing that prevents us from once again employing this premiere raw raw material is the way we have learned to think about hemp:

"You can't use it--it's illegal."

"Even if we could save the planet's life systems by changing that?"

"That's right." This is the kind of frozen, devolutionary thinking we must expand our conscious awareness out beyond to once again encompass the capacity for hopes and dreams of the kind of world we want to, and can, provide our great-grandchildren's great-grandchildren with.

 

[Samadhi]

When the moon is in the 7th house
and jupiter aligns with mars
then peace will guide the planets
and love will steer the stars.

I love that band.

 

[muzby]

ever been doing something, either at home or at work and thought to yourself "you know what, i've done enough here. no-one would know any different if i just stopped now"..

what's not to say that thousands of years ago some lazy mayan calendar maker decided that he'd had enough by the time he got to 2012 and thought it was about time to finish?

and simply we've found the calendar and got scared about it..

after all, our history is simply based on our interpretations of items we've found and stories that have been passed down...

hell, we may all not have looked like neanderthal man.. he may just have been a lucky find.... if they dig up gorden tallis in a million years they'd be saying we all looked like him, which is simply not true...

nothing in it...


but....

if there is....

i'm inviting 420star around to my place to live...

and probably pop popavich too..

i think they'd be handy fellows to have around when the world goes to shit.

 

[Busty St Clare]

You wish you were as handsome as big Gordie.

 

[Raz]

I would be delighted if civilisation got wiped out by some global catastrophe...yanno, as long as it's a quick painless thing and not slowly dying of radiation poisoning or changing atmospheric conditions or something droll like that...humans suck though, no great loss if we're all gonesville..

 

[daytryptr]

I would be delighted if civilisation got wiped out by some global catastrophe...yanno, as long as it's a quick painless thing and not slowly dying of radiation poisoning or changing atmospheric conditions or something droll like that...humans suck though, no great loss if we're all gonesville..

Well that makes three of us, you, me, and georgie carlin. I'd rather an evolutionary pressor causes a mass die off of humans, and those with the ability to adapt and be GENERALISTs instead of cubicle filling specialists would be the people who crawl out of the mess.

But yes, theres far too many little miracles running around on this planet.

 

[Captain Brewster]

Hi Everyone...

You've probably all heard about the end of the Mayan Calendar which occurs on 21st December this year. It was even the subject of a SHIT movie. Anyway... Happily the popular opinion is that it is a spiritual ending and beginning of the age of Aquarius, and the evolution of the human consciousness. I really hope this is the case.

However, MANY believe that it will either BE or be ACCOMPANIED BY a mass disaster of some sort. Years ago it was predicted that might be an electromagnetic burst that would take out all electronic devices, and worryingly the solar activity is rising massively JUST as predicted! Also developing as predicted is a polar reversale where north and south swap over - not as damaging but still a mass event. On top of that are more crazy but frightening predictions, especially the eruption of the volcano in Yellowstone Park - which is LONG overdue to occur and would plunge the GLOBE into darkness, slowly killng almost every living thing through darkness over years. Other things are meteorites (long overdue also for an extinction level meteorite), various extreme weather events, a virus, etc etc.

I've read REAMS and REAMS of material on 2012 and i've been researching it since about 2009 and following it pretty closely. My opinion is that it will be both at once - a new age for humans, but also accompanied by a disaster event to cull our numbers and weed out those who are not spiritually growing and ready for the evolution.

So that means IF we want to survive (and survival probably wont be present) we need to plan for it. So who out there has a plan?

I am also vaguely thinking of starting a group. Looking by way of example at Hurrican Katrina in the states - the event was only part of it. The lack of water, food, and resources in the days and weeks afterwards was even more devastating. It will be SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST. The currency will be drinkable water and food, and people will STOP AT NOTHING to get those items.

I have a location in mind to flee to, which i won't divulge as its pretty special - which has unlimited pure drinking water, and guaranteed safety from any events on the surface. I also have a pack at home made up, which contains a book on Australian edible plants, a book on outdoor survival, tools for making fire, a big ass knife, a radio and batteries, food, water, a can opener. Enough to survive with long term.

I'm taking the 21st off work so I can be prepared for anything. I am also co-ordinating with loved ones for the day. But like I said, starting a group that gathers and works together is probably the best way of surviving and being ready for anything.

Does anyone out there in Bluelight land have any interest in this? Opinions? Information? Links to survivalism groups? I'd be surprised if there aren't others around the place thinking in the same way I am. I have a good friend i've emailed tonight and invited who has a rugged 4wd and a gun - two VERY desirable commodities in an apocolyptic event.

Something is happening on the 21st - im convinced - if you look at the accuracy of the mayan calendar - these guys were predicting astrological events to the DAY THOUSANDS of years before they happened. Just crazily accurate. And their stories passed from generation to generation said that it was the END OF DAYS. So it might be that things are gonna get messy. The most technically proficient race in the history of humans is not likely to get this totally wrong.

Lets get prepared. Whos in?


Oh PS if we do this, someone will have to be in charge of stockpiling some good drugs to pass the time.


WarChild

Your not an Assassins Creed fan, are you?

 

[JessFR]

I can't wait for the Mayan Apocalypse. There's only two things that could really happen, on the one hand it could be a giant dud, which would be hilarious and is almost certainly what will in fact happen.

Or it'll be the end of the world, in which case, awesome, I got to be one of the few actually there when the world ended.

It's win win.

 

[Jakeperson]

It's the 12/12/12 the world ends yo