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Esoteric [Ego-Death Subthread] How to achieve it

I never found a K-hole to disconnect myself from my sense of self, only to put my sense of selfe somewhere else, usually a manifestation of some aspect of my sense of self. Hence "psychedelic megalomania". Discombobulation indeed. But I never tried IM. My experience of K-holes comes from eating and snorting silly amounts at the same time.

Interestingly, in severe K addicts, I've noticed a sort of inflated ego.
 
I can see how light Ketamine experiences can be conductive to egoism if one leaves one's self unchecked.

But at the proper dose, Ketamine - without fail, unlike psychedelics - will result in the complete annihilation of everything and all sense of "I".
 
I dunno, unless you don't get enough into you at once, I'd have to say DMT can do that without fail. At least for me it works that way.
 
I just experienced ego death... or atleast ego-dramatic-softening... I mean just, I'm just coming down out of my mushroom trip and all I gotta say is I learnt alot about the world... my world.. and about myself.
 
I just experienced ego death... or atleast ego-dramatic-softening... I mean just, I'm just coming down out of my mushroom trip and all I gotta say is I learnt alot about the world... my world.. and about myself.

yeah winner, post a thread, didja write notes?
 
I forgot about the notes stray, sorry. A friend came over so I got distracted from my preparations, but he left while I was coming up, I then went on an adventure in the forest, my atmosphere was perfect, for my atleast. Walking to the forest without a care in the world but the amazing introspective thoughts zooming in my head, often at times I sort of forgot who I was and what I was doing, but it was all good.. I have no idea if what I'm saying makes any sence at all as I'm still sort of in a brain fog about my wonderful trip.

Ok well, I've just typed up like 5 paragraphs then deleted them because I didn't know where to start or anything.. So I'll just say to you stray; you should try mushrooms sometime
 
Yeah mushrooms are so forceful when it comes to ego annihilation. I find DMT remarkably similar in that fashion only it is a mushroom trip compacted into a couple of minutes. Within seconds I have lost all the meaning in the world, thinking I have definitely and irrevocably gone insane having terrorized thought loops.
This was from an unknown but too big dose of N,N-DMT. I was sure the experience went just too far, it is not OK at all but as soon as I realized what had hit me the best feeling washed over me.

At another time with LSD one of the most moving songs I've ever heard took me by surprise when I was celebrating a holiday at my best friends place. I was so overwhelmed by the impossible intensity I received a vision of my selfimage kneeling in front of a being made of pure light. I felt ultimately naked, there was nothing I could hide about who I was and what I'd ever done. The being 'scanned' me beginning to end, in a way my life flashed before my non-localized mind's eye. Every loose end was met with either resolution or acceptance until all could rest in peace. Right then, "I" died revolving through timeless oblivion only to instantly be reborn. I curled up like a baby and cried out from sheer thankfulness for just existing. For moments I was a perfect tabula rasa.

At another occasion I had also taken LSD and tried meditating a little to facilitate a supreme state of consciousness. I envisioned an uplink being established, exactly like an elevatorshaft to heaven. There was something indeterminable about the absolute and also relative proportions of this uplink but at one point I knew there was but one fragment missing before the connection would be complete.
Right at that point a horrible doubt came over me: I knew nothing or at least not enough about the 'rules' or consequences of such a thing. Could I trust abandoning the control over the vehicle that is my body? Was it possible that I would die altogether if I disregarded the notion of living? I could not continue which left me horrendeously vulnerable and frightful... the preparation for deconstruction of reality had resulted in some kind of intermediate state where I was unable to integrate either the experience of being or not-being. Desperation occupied my malleable mindset until I accepted the truth that I didn't know what I didn't know. I mean: it is impossible for me to rationally be aware of the things I don't know. As I can't know everything I can't know what is missing either. To complement my knowledge belief was needed. Belief in what? The answer came naturally: belief in myself to begin with altogether. Not so much my ego as believing in the true source of myself whatever it was and however collective. Invest trust in yourself and be on the receiving end as well to gain a self-sustaining power circuit. As a vicious circle of positivity it is the best imaginable energy source to drive life.

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It also costs huge amounts of energy but there is no substitute for the impenetrable depths of life and the experience of it!

Sounds beautiful you had the chance to have such a thing happen Winner =D
 
solipsysis gave me an idea. Ive heard of many experiences where people feel completely naked in front of something or like being scanned as you said. What if this had a connection to entity theories? That your first ego death is entities testing you for interaction. And after that you experience entities. An interesting thoughtt.
 
the only time i experienced ego death or came close (i dunno which) was on ~20 mg of 2ce (orally) and several bong hits of MJ. i just figured it was worth mentioning since i only saw one person mention 2ce and it was IM.

during the trip i tasted pizza that was in my friend's mouth, before i had ate any myself. i also watched as he snorted a line of oxy and felt it hitting my nasal cavity. i was getting closed eye visions/feelings of being other people - starving kids in africa, a wife being beaten, a cold and lonely homeless person. this sounds like it might be unpleasant, but it was NOT. it was beautiful. this is the only time (or at least the most intense time) that i had that feeling of oneness i have read so much about on forums like this.

the actual "ego death" part was after having a few too many bong hits, and changing the music to pink floyd. everything just became a little too intense. my friend and i couldn't communicate to each other. the most we could mumble was "that's soo weird!" i felt like i had overdone it, like i may never come back. i felt insane, and i pictured myself having to tell my family, friends and gf what i had done to myself. at first i was fighting it, but then i decided that the best i could do was accept it and see if i was normal again in the morning. i eventually came down and thanked my friend for helping me through it - by basically doing nothing. if i had been with someone else who kept questioning me or asking if i was ok, it may have gotten more ugly.

so i guess this was probably not ego death, it was more likely the verge of a "bad" trip. but it's the closest i've ever came. that oneness feeling has stuck with me - and may have caused some problems. a few weeks later i got the shit beat outta me by someone at a bar. i was still on a afterglow from this trip, thinking of everyone as One. why would you want to harm someone - you'd only be harming yourself. obviously this kid didn't feel it though. i just wasn't on my toes, wasn't ready to defend myself, and didn't really believe that he was gonna fight me over nothing. but he did and it hurt :(
i don't regret my feeling though, just wish more people (everyone) felt it.

that's the end of my rambling for now
 
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Well i experienced ego death on Ambien many of times in dosages of 50mg + .. lol but then again if you know anything about ambien the ego death doesnt last, lol cuz ur just a babbling walking zombie and have no memory of the experience...
 
the actual "ego death" part was after having a few too many bong hits, and changing the music to pink floyd. everything just became a little too intense. my friend and i couldn't communicate to each other. the most we could mumble was "that's soo weird!" i felt like i had overdone it, like i may never come back. i felt insane, and i pictured myself having to tell my family, friends and gf what i had done to myself. at first i was fighting it, but then i decided that the best i could do was accept it and see if i was normal again in the morning. i eventually came down and thanked my friend for helping me through it - by basically doing nothing. if i had been with someone else who kept questioning me or asking if i was ok, it may have gotten more ugly.

I've experienced something very similar to this, on a mushroom trip with a group of friends. Once the peak hit us there was just no way any of us could communicate with each other at all. For nearly the whole time we just staggered around the house not saying a word to each other and all I remember are solemn smiles and overwhelmed looks. I never really felt panicked but I remember feeling extremely unsettled.

So I just realized then that during the same trip, after what seemed like an eternity of this nothingness between everybody, I lay on the couch and faced the ceiling. I couldn't look at anything because every time I tried to focus I would just think everything about that object, and I mean it felt like every thought that could ever relate to that thing.

The reason I couldn't talk to anybody was because I was applying this same extreme analytical mindset to each and every word and expression and movement that they made. I thought that lying down and not giving myself anything to think about would help this, I was also just purely overwhelmed.

When I lay down I started to realise that my thoughts were also an inner dialogue made of words, and then I started analyzing those. An extremely fast 'logic' started to unravel, in which I tried to make sense of not only my thoughts, but my thinking, and all the words that made up my thinking. In hindsight, I was considering the mental awareness of my consciousness, and trying to make sense of what my consciousness was. This seemed to go on forever, I remember writhing around on the couch groaning. It seemed to be a tunnel of analyzing and consideration that went deeper and deeper into my own head, I was scared, I was frantic. I couldn't make sense of it at all. And then, when it just couldn't get any worse or confusing, it made sense.

I don't even remember the revelation or the conclusion that I came to, I don't even think there was one, maybe it was just an overwhelming sense of 'I AM.' but I sat up and turned to my friend with watery eyes and said: "I get it, man, I just understand now, I'm zen, I'm at peace," or something along those lines. And I truly felt that, I could hear a beautiful chiming ringing in my ears that was sharp and soft at the same time, it felt like ohm.

It's very hard to explain, it feels like there's a lot more but I don't know how to put it into words. Since then I've learned a lot about psychedelics and heard phrases like 'ego-death,' which I've become very interested in. But I've only just now realized that this might have been what I experienced.

Sorry for such a long post, what do you guys think?

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the only time i've ever experienced what I think is ego-death is the last time i took tooooo many doses and then listened to Pink Floyd's The Wall all the way through uber intensely. i accepted my flaws and fears and was reborn.
i took pictures cuz i was so ecstatic at the time!!! haha

big BTW--- i was by myself.... gotta be alone.
 
This thread is my favorite thread on this entire forum. I've only had a mild 'ego-death' experience before, but I find myself craving an intense one. I know that if I try to force it upon myself that it will not happen an will probably turn into something I don't want, but this is something I really want to experience. I just have to take deep breaths and let it happen when it happens. Waaaay easier said than done for me.
 
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"alone" as in without physical distractions or people around...... unless that's what you understand it to be as well....

I was meaning that if you are experiencing ego-death then you would be unaware of people or physical sensations anyway. When it happens "alone" is a meaningless concept cos you are everyone and everything there's ever been and ever will be all at once for ever... Until the ego is re-established, at least. It's a very hard state to even attempt to explain but fascinating to see folks interpretations of it :)
 
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