*raises eyebrow* Are you suggesting that the answer to a psychedelic problem is to fight or overpower it? That runs counter to the surrender and acceptance aspect that most of us would consider to be integral to the psychedelic experience in general.
I've definitely experienced my personality or some important part of my soul dying symbolically and being born anew into life (and I've experienced it just as intensely while losing my marbles due to meth abuse. Well, I consider that to be the second half or perhaps the consummation of a psychedelic experience I had had 4 years earlier). And it was terrifying and maybe even beautiful and seemed like coming into reality, but when I read y'all describing ego death on here, I do not at all feel like that's something I have experienced. Of course, I have thought loops and identity disturbances while sober, 'cause I'm more than a lil' bit mentally ill. So my perspective may be skewed.
On the off chance that we have felt the same thing, I'm disturbed at how it is treated by the psychedelic community. Though that goes for a number psychedelic experiences, or parts of the multifaceted psychedelic experience, as the case me be. I think pmoseman (what is your name supposed to be?) provided a good example, "a haphazard sort of upside down feeling of being lost in the wilderness within," (which is not the same thing as the above), it's not an E ticket ride, ya'know?
No I mean acceptance. The willpower to accept the experience as being what it really is: the psychoactive effects of a substance that one has ingested. The ability to accept the experience and identify it as a psychedelic experience vs freaking out thinking your dying. The ability while tripping off nut to use a BP cuff and read the numbers and conclude your A: OK blood pressure is within your normal range, within a safe range or B: straying into dangerous territory. A BP of 120/70 and a pulse of say 80-100 would be ideal given most psychedelics raise heart rate. A BP of 130-140 over 80-100 safe although 140/100 would give me pause, as long as the pulse was 100 or below I'd not be to concerned however. A BP of 150-200/100-150 say would be very concerning. Emergency measures ASAP if your BP was 200/150 with a heart rate of 140+ Bpm.
So your totally fucked, shits morphing, your morphing, you fear your dying and you reach for eternity grab the machine. Pop the cuff on press a button. Read results and apply critical reasoning... plus one for being able read the screen, a experience that can be very difficult. Even more so if on a dose of say psychedelics and dissociatives combined IM. That is will power, being able to retain self awareness to some degree and maintain self control and rationalize your own thoughts. Maintain your ability self to analyse the experience and rationalize it. Then react accordingly. I been tripping since the very early 90's so I guess experience plays a part.
One should never fight against the experience. It is enough for one just be able to understand it is what it is they experience. If you start fearing your dying from ingesting psychedelic drugs then do some basic HR and take your vitals. If super worried pop a BP cuff on while coming up and have your sitter monitor it. NEVER PANIC. Saying: fear is the mind killer, well with high dose psychedelics this is often true. Your heart rate will rise as will your BP due to anxiety. Now days If doing high doses or combining dissociatives with psychedelics I have my Bp cuff handy and my little emergency kit. There are other drugs that can lower HR/BP used in cardiac arrest but unless a trained professional I'd advise you not to use them. Some are designed to treat specific cardiac conditions such as atrial fibrillation, super ventricular tachycardia, atrial flutter etc so you con't want to use the wrong drug if your simply tachycardic (heart beating fast) with elevated BP...
Even when I've had manic PCP episodes I was able to rationalize that despite perceiving the news reporters speaking directly to me it was just drug induced perceptual disturbance a nice way of saying mild form of acute drug induced psychosis. Thought insertion, grandiose delusional thought content combined with idea's of reference. All were recognizable symptoms upon self analysis post experience. Now I dose fairly low. However your still manic doing crazy shit, just more in control. One solution is I go to a park and do martial art training by myself, usually a night, looks less crazy than doing it in the day lol.
Interestingly benzo's are probably one of the safest way of lower HR, BP and vasocontriction. Various Benzo's are used in ED for stimulant OD's (usually Loraz and/or Midaz) then once the BP and HR are down they usually monitor for a while to see if there vitals are stable then jab an anti-psychotic in the person who OD'd. Antipsychotics not as safe, not recommend them for lowering BP/HR. Beta blocker's are not safe due to lowering HR while increasing ejection fraction (volume of blood leaving the heart with each stroke). Combined with psychedelic that cause vaso-constriction (pretty much all of them to some extent) and results may include: possible CVA (stroke), heart attack or one might say rupture a few blood vessels...
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
