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Effects list of K2 Summit

I've been smoking blends similar to K2 and have been making my own JWH blends. With all of them I get the headaches. It's really easy to OD on this stuff and 'freak out'. There's been a few times where I felt like I was going to die, but I obviously knew it was just the JWH and rode it out. Few hours later I'm fine. The headaches however linger around.

At first I too thought JWH ruined weed for me. I had a terrible trip smoking some weed after smoking just JWH for a few months. But I let it go and had more weed the next day, which came with more headaches, anxiety, verge of panic attack. Then had more that night and then the next day, etc. But as anyone who uses, knows to just let bad trips handle themselves, no need to look like a dumbass and call 911 (not to mention the cost of going to the ER).

Eventually after about 5 days of no JWH and just smoking cannabis the bad trips went away and I could then again smoke weed scare-free.

Haven't had any JWH in about a week, and I'm still getting the headaches. Some more intense than others, but nothing I'm freaking out over. I've got a few ounces of my JWH blend that I'm not smoking... think I'll wait to see if I can get these headaches to go away before firing up another bowl.

Good luck to you other guys, don't let this stuff freak you out, and give weed another chance if you think JWH has ruined it for you. Be strong and just ride out those rough trips, you'll be able to enjoy weed again %)
 
Hello. I smoked K2 Blue for the first time today. I had insane head pains, just like the jackhammer described, and I thought I was going to die. My heartrate was through the roof. This was at 6 PM. It is now almost 2 AM and I am scared shitless since the headaches are still here. I am going to call 911 and go to the emergency room if these symptoms are not gone tomorrow. I am terrified and borderline suicidal from this stuff and scared shitless. How long did these symptoms described last for those who had them after smoking K2 but then lost them later on? I can't deal with reality.
 
I HAVE THE ANSWER!
I googled it so much, and I know what is wrong.
We are suffering from Analgesic Rebound Headaches, brought on by JWH's analgesic properties. Here is the answer! I have no idea how to cure it, but the demon has a face.
 
I'm new to the forums and didn't want to start a new thread on a subject that's already being discussed. I'm going to write about my experience on K2 Summit as I tried it for the first time recently due to circumstances that disallow me from smoking my 1st choice, marijuana.

It was last night, about 11:00PM, was outside with 4 friends and I was excited to try this new "weed imitator" that my friends had told me about. It was 3 grams for 32$... which I figured was not terribly expensive if it was potent.

So me and the 4 others went for a little walk into the woods and lit up bowl number 1 of the Summit. I must say I was skeptical at first, and hadn't done any research on it yet. Nothing noticeable happened for the first few minutes, and I was ready to call it weak and not worth it. But after about the 3rd bowl of it, and we were each getting about 2 good hits from each bowl, the effects were noticed. There was a strange mixture of euphoria and agitation, we would all give each other a hard time, but in a half joking way. We talked for what must have been 30 minutes, although time was definitely distorted. We were laughing and always getting louder than we should have been in the neighborhood at that time, but continuously forgetting to be quiet. It seemed to have slightly different effects on each of us though. For me and two others it was very similar to marijuana, and we still were very coherent and just vibing with it, with slight discomfort from a faster pulse, tighter chest, slight difficulty swallowing, etc., but that's happened from lot's of weed to me before also so I was not alarmed. The two others were a little less experienced with drugs in general, and were a little more far-out and almost stereotypically goofy and paranoid.

We must have smoked 5 bowls of the K2, along with some regular marijuana before we went inside to watch some TV and relax for a while. Up to this point it was hard to put my finger on how this K2 stuff was different from marijuana, I guess it seemed more intense and shorter, a little edgier, and a little harder on the body.

Much later, probably 2AM about, we were getting some food and ready to pass out upstairs when one of my friends was seeming to have a rough time, he seemed a little freaked out, which I tried to jest and put aside as paranoia and anxiety, until he actually had to sit down. Then he kind of rolled backwards onto his back and was just looking at me, but couldn't move for a second. He got up after a few seconds and said he lost control over his body for a few seconds and was having a "freak out". With my experience though, this was most likely something he talked himself into. The mind is a powerful thing, so I'm not certain that was the K2, or if he just smoked too much and it was all psychosomatic.

I didn't have any real adverse effects besides some slight motor dysfunction (didn't feel balanced correctly when walking) and pulse increase, tightness of throat, and slight paranoia, (brought on by my friend falling over, seeing things like that never helps).

Sorry this was so long, I'll try to make a short list here of the effects as experienced by me, although the marijuana in the mix will make it not a true test of the K2.

GOOD:
-Euphoria
-More social
-The "cartoon" effect as I call it, or more vibrant colors and outlines.
-My eyes were not nearly as agitated as with marijuana.
-No sluggish "couch-locked" feeling.

INDIFFERENT:
-Time distortion
-Fleeting thoughts
-Forgetfullness

BAD:
-Pulse increase
-Slight paranoia
-Slight motor dysfunction
-Tightness of throat along with dry mouth
-Slight agitation, made me a little more "on edge"

Forgot to mention just after the one friend's little falling over episode as I was walking to get into bed my ankles became very weak, the feeling you get in your hands when you've just woken up and you try to grip something really hard. I almost fell over but it was just for a second. In bed I felt a little dizzy and unbalanced, but my bet is that was also psychosomatic from seeing my friend lose control.

Again, sorry for such a long post, but I figure more detail can only help us share our experiences with this seemingly uncontrolled and mysterious blend.
 
K2 actually makes me go into a delerium/dreamlike state, where I have very realistichallucinations that are not at all enjoyable, and always are simply an alteration of the currentsituation. For example, I'll be sitting on a couch with my friend, listening to music (in real life) and then I hallucinate and he punches me in the arm and calls me a pussy.then I punch him back
In real life and he gets kinda freaked out/sad, so I apologize and explain I was hallucinating.... He said I justnod off and mumble, then freak out. It's dysphoric most of the time.... All of one or two hits. :P
 
Has anyone looked into the GABA aspect of JWH more? I have read that another person has had similar effects, such as alcohol having a diminished effect and a much shorter duration.

I personally have not noticed any negative effects that I can attribute to JWH usage, as I am currently going though SSRI withdrawls. This is after at least a month of almost daily usage mixed in with a few days of breaks. It is quite possible to smoke too much JWH, and these effects are NEVER pleasant. No matter how comfortable or experienced you are with it, you will freak out.
 
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^ I've gotten rather comfortable with heroic amounts of JWH. I found that tolerance built almost over night... I went from vaping 10mg to 60mg at a time within a week.
 
chainer3k said:
^ I've gotten rather comfortable with heroic amounts of JWH. I found that tolerance built almost over night... I went from vaping 10mg to 60mg at a time within a week.
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I concur. Tolerance seems to build quite fast with these. I'm going to lay off for a while and get back to 'normal'.

Anyone know how long before tolerance gets back to beginners level? I noticed even 2 days of abstaining made a difference, but after a few days I get right back to where several times as much are needed to get the same effects.

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carbon unit said:
I concur. Tolerance seems to build quite fast with these. I'm going to lay off for a while and get back to 'normal'.

Anyone know how long before tolerance gets back to beginners level? I noticed even 2 days of abstaining made a difference, but after a few days I get right back to where several times as much are needed to get the same effects.

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Tolerance builds to Cannabis similarly, although I think it's more apparent with the pure chemicals. Assuming similar behavior to Cannabis, a week should restore most of your sensitivity. Two weeks ought to be long enough to be completely fresh, physiologically.

Psychological sensitivity is another story; it can take months to years to undo.
 
I would imagine the tolerance would be more akin to that of hydroponic than any other cannabis plant... as in - more potent product -> longer break -> better high.

Psychological sensitivity? Such as?
 
chainer3k said:
I would imagine the tolerance would be more akin to that of hydroponic than any other cannabis plant... as in - more potent product -> longer break -> better high.

Psychological sensitivity? Such as?
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...such as the perceived novelity of the experience and the tendency to adapt to various cognitive effects like short-term memory loss.
 
I wasn't sure what you were referring to. Obviously side effects are going to be mirroring Cannabis plant's own, it's a synthetic cannabidiol RC so I think that goes without saying. I am curious to see if the hippocampus is effected differently than from naturally occurring THC (regarding over time recovery). I'd like to see a scan of neurons firing while under the effect of cannabis v. a synthetic. I wish more studies had been done on these specific RCs, but if they had, I probably wouldn't be holding the amount I currently am.
 
I just wanna say

Ive been using Spice Blends except for some pure JWH I bought down here at a store. (a regular smoke shop was selling it for 30 .5grams) I have smoked it for 8 months or so. I was using every 20minites for the last 3 months I would get up a few times a night.

I decided to stop as the feeling a overwhelming doom was creeping into my body. Well Yessss I did have withdrawls, cold in 103 weather sweating shaking... Now after my withdrawls are mostly finished and im only fiening a little took about a day for it to lose its hold. It was not the worse withdrawls ive had but only cuz it was gone so quickly.

Things that i notice now that im not sedated...

I have numb spots or much less feeling in some spots all over, face chest feet hands all over in spots and lines. I have swelling in my ankle joints specifically.
I still have great balance. and nothing has quite faded to numb. The coughing that comes with it has almost faded off only cough once ever half hour yet. I cant eat well I have a lack of hunger but it seems so be fading as well.

I smoked some last night for sex... yes its greatforit. But I even notice numbness in spots on my dick. but more importantly the numbness and ankle pain has returned in full swing. So With everything and my experience as a "drug user" I could list symptoms all day almost in any part of my body does spice cause this? yeah more then likely yes.

Honest after my girlfriend seen my crying and the floor begging for help in a pile of my puke she finally has seen what I had been telling her in my daze. she was not getting sick like me... but I was using 2 grams day at the end there at least.

A smart person would read this when they start smoking spice and take heed.
I didnt

Ive done a lot of drugs and Oded or coma or whatever... I have worried quite a few times I remember when I almost Oded on coke I told my friend to leave me in a garbage can so they don't get in trouble... I was younger then and my friends were not really worried then ether as they were prolly considering my plan.

OK CONCLUSION

I don't wanna say goodbye to my family I dont want you to be a part of this thing. my baby boy looks just like my and yes my gf did use spice while he was in the womb so far seems fine but who can say he cant tell me that he in numb in half his body yet. I really feel it doom impending GO BACK TO POT if you must and fail drugs tests fuck it go to jail. I see the future of this thing I see a viewing and it me in there cold and pail. I see my son touching my face not understanding why I don't stand up.

Ive been crying a lot

and honestly I dont care about you much I mean the people that get this message

But take warning like I did not

not for human consumption
 
Oh and btw your will always want what you dont have and you might lose somthing from this drug along the way... I really do feel like a lava lamp as the numbness moves but this is only one symptom in a sea of sorrow... It took me about 4000$ in spice to get here My only regret it not listening when I first started.
 
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