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Effects list of K2 Summit

inmate303 said:
Has anyone tried the new product out there called holy smoke or holy smoke kapow. i received a email the other day from 1 of those headstores on facebook, im pretty keen on trying it myself but want to get a heads up first. there's some new 1's out there i tried but havent done justice so far.
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Tried Kapow last week actually great buzz very chillaxing and the aroma i think is vanilla I would totally recommend giving it a go loved it :)=D
 
Erinseye said:
tried kapow, had some of the original stuff holy smoke which i thought was strong but kapow took my socks off. had to lie down and i mean i could not do anything after half j. bit too strong for me but small amount rolled gives me nice chilled buzz but im not an overly heavy smoker since the bans and all. does have nice flavour to it, prefer it to most and the bf says he can make his grass last the week now stretching it out with kapow. recession and all that!! anyone know more about it tho? like whats in it that means its still legal? anyone else think it was strong or that just me?
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I am pretty sure this product is still legal not sure 100% what's in it but I also tried Holy Smoke pretty good but Kapow is way better much more my liking kicked me on my arse anyways .:)
 
I would say a short term run with a benzo (like xanax, valium, or klonopin) while experiencing these "headaches" or maybe just try taking 2 aspirin every day and see how that does ya.
 
slowdive said:
There is nothing wrong with using synthetic cannabinoids in place of natural cannabis. That's like saying to someone "Only use morphine. Every other opioid like hydrocodone, oxycodone, etc is stupid."

It's exciting there are other cannabinoids besides the ones included within cannabis.

I haven't smoked cannabis since in a long time, but I remember it well. I have been using JWH-018 and it feels just like THC, etc, effects are just shorter lasting for JWH and I don't feel drowsy and stupid after it wears off. I enjoy it. A friend has been blending together herbs and then lacing it with JWH from a kit he has. Very enjoyable high and I haven't suffered any ill effects yet. Feels like a nice, clean cannabinoid buzz to me.
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Well not exactly.. Cause u know that cannabis is a combination of cannabinoids and other chemicals that cannot be reproduced in a lab... U know how CBD regulates the high and all that? Smoking jwh is akin to smoking prehistoric bud, before generations apon generations of evolution mellowed out the plant...
 
If 018 is giving you panic attacks, 081 would probably be a better cannabinoid for you. 081 is much more body oriented like a pure Indica strain of cannabis.

I don't know of any blends that have 081 in them(those commercial blends all suck, they're a HUGE ripoff) but there are plenty of sites that sell JWH-081 if you search for it. If you choose to buy some, make sure to get a milligram scale as well.
 
mixing jwh with ridilin or adderall is a clusterfuck.
that was your problem
 
I should've caught that part about mixing stimulants with 018. That's a terrible idea since all of those substances are known to cause anxiety in some people, and the combo just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Put whatever you want in your body but be careful and use common sense.

I'm gonna stick by 081 though, because it's least likely to cause anxiety out of all of the JWHs as far as I know. It's much more of a body high and is significantly less psychedelic than 018.

If you like psychedelic effects but don't want quite the edge of 018, 250 is fairly balanced between mental/physical effects. 250's onset can be pretty psychedelic though so I wouldn't use it if you're feeling anxious at all.

Most importantly though, DON'T BUY THOSE SHITTY RIPOFF COMMERCIAL BLENDS! They cost at least No Prices - Chainer when you can just get the actives(or a good custom homemade blend if you have the connects) for a fraction of the price. If you're paying more than No Prices - Chainer an oz for an average strength(1g chems/oz) blend, you're getting FUCKED.

Extremely potent blends and/or complex cannabinoid mixes made by trusted, experienced blenders are worth more, but a simple 018 blend should NOT be going for dank weed prices. k2 is total garbage.
 
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RICO SUAVE said:
Most importantly though, DON'T BUY THOSE SHITTY RIPOFF COMMERCIAL BLENDS! They cost at least X when you can just get the actives(or a good custom homemade blend if you have the connects) for a fraction of the price.
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it's absurdly cheap to make your own.

also watch the price discussion, it's not allowed on BL unless you're in the Price Discussion Thread.
 
Herbal~Jah said:
I would say a short term run with a benzo (like xanax, valium, or klonopin) while experiencing these "headaches" or maybe just try taking 2 aspirin every day and see how that does ya.
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I'm still having them every day. About eight months now it's really starting to get old. I've been diagnosed with migraines and I obviously have none of the symptoms of it. It's very annoying how I can't get any relief and I hate how people say to take some aspirin/tylonel/any OTC when even megadosing them for weeks do nothing.

I keep end up trying weed every month or so and instantly regret because of how intense the pain gets.

Why the fuck was a stoner banned from this drug? :( But I would much rather just feel normal sober than smoke weed again.
 
plenty of people get headaches with JWH-018 use, it's quiet common.

IME - 20% of people who use it who never have before experience some negative effect the first few times.

OP, I doubt it... but I've heard horrible stories from people who use pre-packaged syth blends before... I've used K2 once and swore it off forever, that shit just tasted in every way shape and form bad.

I stick to pure RCs and make my own, healthier blends than those artifical prepackaged bullshits.
 
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ok. where to start, cause i am NOT sitting down and reading 9 pages of people saying the same thing.

K2 is widely used because it's one of the most potent blends. HOWEVER, it's also one of the most faked blends on the market.
if you're going to start smoking blends instead of pot, do your research. for 1) the fake stuff could still contain actual weed, cause you're not going to find the fakes in the headshops. you'll find it in convienence stores and on craigslist.
make sure you're getting the real deal.
and 2) research is the only way you're going to be able to spot the differences in the packaging. if the label on the package is xeroxed, photocopied, ect, it's fake.
and you'll be able to tell.

i smoke a blend on a daily basis, more than once a day.
but i've also smoke over 40 blends , i know what i'm smoking, hell, i even make/sell my own, and it works.
i've never had any bad effects from smoking a jwh blend.

on note with your headaches, it's been months, i hope you've found relief.
dispite what some of these uninformed people are saying. yes, LSD and shrooms can help your headaches. i'd lean more toward shrooms, as they're easier to get your hands on as long as the cattle in your area are let to graze instead of being fed. plus, LSD, you're going to trip before anything happens. shrooms, just pop a cap. you don't have to trip to get relief.

the blends(the official ones anyway) are safe. i feel confident in saying that.
one thing to keep in mind, is dosing(i'm a certified pharmacy tech), if you're a small person(i'm 300lbs)DON'T SMOKE SO MUCH. that's probably where your problem came from those last couple of times you smoked it. you smoked too much.
there was a story on the news a few months back that was talking about a group of kids that were smoking K2's summit blend, they all got freaked out, feeling sick, and went to the hospital. it resulted in K2 itself being made illegal in a handful of states. these kids for 1) were KIDS!!!!! duh, don't smoke if your small and you don't know what your getting yourself into. and 2)probably smoked then entire 3gram pack all at once, which should normally take you all day, if not 2 days.


just be smart when you're going to smoke herbal blends, and if possible, make your own. order your herbs online, damiana(90% of the blends use this as a base) is like 11 bucks for a pound, a couple of more for a different flavor, then order yourself 1 or 2 grams of JWH from a known company online. if you know what's in it, you're safer to begin with.



now, my main point i wanted to say, cause it kept irritating me while i WAS reading the thread.
weed doesn't cause the anxiety...the law does.
If youre smoking pot, and you're feeling scared or anxious, it's because you're worried that you're going to be caught by the cops, or someone else that you can be in trouble with.
there are no bad sides to weed, other than the munchies.
i've smoked weed since i was 12, and i'm 28 now. i've been smoking blends mixed in there for about the last year, and i quit smoking weed all together about a month ago(hair follicle test coming up)
go back and do your research before you start saying things about weed that you don't understand. there is never been an addiction case because of weed.
dependancy is NOT addiction.
 
^ there is a lot of wrong and ignorance in there, fyi. not going to take the time to correct you as this really isn't the thread to.
 
I've smoked a little bit of it. It might be alright, but I think the major problem is that people easily OD it. Also, I wouldn't recommend anyone to take it every day. If you can take the anxiousness you should be fine though, but if you start to get headaches you should take it as a sign and lay off it for a while.

It just doesn't feel the same as good 'ol green to me.
 
I never tried this stuff, I hear both sides, some like it, a few dont, I need to see for myself, but in moderation
 
Rdy, you may want to try to avoid posts with no point or blog-worthy posts in the future, you'll likely catch some flak for it at some point.

That said, if you're dead set at trying synthetic cannaboids, I would never try these prepackaged blends.
 
Hey chainer3k, Thanks for the heads up, so what would you suggest then instead of the prepackaged blends?making it myself? Thanks
 
First step if finding a good, clean source, which I can't help you with, but is surprisingly easy if you get your hands a bit dirty. Second is choosing how much you want to dose, or making your own blends. Check out the [mega] Synthetic discussion thread here in CD and search my posts, there is a shit ton of information there from just me, and a maddening amount from everyone else.
 
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