EADD Theology Megathread - Book II - Exodus

[bob_arctor]

Bob could sell you anything, and I bought it all.

 

[Raasyvibe]

But I come up with my own better truths, and in return I feel a sense of integrity and dignity, and developed my own skillsets during the processes. Which is, I believe, intrinsically more healthy for my sense of self-worth, than just nodding and saying 'I submit', or feeling guilty about not submitting and in reality, failing.



They are if you are have to OBEY those rules to be accepted by God

K, let me know if you want me to post some more gifs in case you can't sleep or summat ;p

OK marmalade... you've had this coming...

The pictures were gross, especially the one with semen on their fingers. There is no substance in the world, that I find more revolting than another mans semen. Really didn't want that image stuck in the back of my mind.

In revenge, I have given a long-winded, over-elaborate, tiresome, heavily religious, tl;dr-style post as a response to your dogmata issues.


Christianity and it's Dogma

Actually, I've put thought into this post. Can you - or anyone else who feels dogma to be a suppressive part of religion - please do me one favour and play this song in the background as you read it slowly - makes it so much more dramatic.

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is it playing? Let us begin...

Humans are capable of being very loving and compassionate creatures. This ability is something that can be progressed and tuned in with, to a very considerable degree.

Bhuddas call it Nirvana, Christians call it the holy spirit, ColtDan calls it DMT... whatever, bliss is there to be discovered inside each and everyone of us.

There is one deterrence however, to attuning yourself with this love. That is evil. Christians recognise it as sin, Buddha's call it "desires". Whatever, it arises from our greed, and becomes a distortion to the love which exists inside of us.

One who is more in tune with their spiritual side, will be more aware of the sin and it's repercussions to our state of being. Someone who has done a lot of evil, will become cold in spirit, as this becomes convenient to them, having rendered their spiritual side into a painful mess.

It is clear to see that our actions can effect our very consciousness. Our relationships, our perceptions and state of being.

Therefore, to create a path to this blissful state and recognise all that disturbs it, these statutes are created with the intention of helping you discover this inner peace; this spirit of grace.

Scripture declares this, as thus :~

John 14:6

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."


The intention of the dogma is not control, but it is born from love for your own spiritual nourishment. To compensate for the inescapable traits of human life; our own ignorance and fallibility.

Created, to help you find happiness, strength and inner peace. Something many struggle to find in this world, saturated with spiritual disturbances.

It is important to note that these revelations are purported to be divine. So that changes the nature of following the dogma completely.

if another human makes a dogma, they are controlling you and you are stripped of independence and subject to their fallible mistakes.

But... If a dogma and it's related teachings is a divine revelation from a perfect God, submitting and respecting the dogma becomes a different matter completely. Like a child obeying and respecting his fathers command. In recognition of our own desire for development, there is no shame in adhering the teachings of what is believed to be from a loving God.

To benefit from them, to treat them with respect, it is a pre-requisite to believe in God.

It is important to distinguish this kind of teaching, from a dogma written for purposes of control and that will supresses you, as has been seen in many spiritually abusive religions/sects.

 

[Marmalade]

But cocks and semen are soooooo lovely! Such hate ... for such naturally occurring organic matter Raasmond.

Watching a guy spurting his organic matter, because you ( I ) elicited the reaction is absolutely AWESOME on so many levels (it can be one of the ultimates in positive reinforcement - if we link it to the news thread and those gifs you didn't like that much ... apparently). And believe me, I wouldn't fuck a guy I didn't love. Not because of morals, because in theory, I believe in fucking whomever you choose, whenever you choose. I'm just pretty limited on that level. Rod, arse, etc, etc. I'm into intimacy. I'm 41, and have had sex with only 3 other people.

Ok, so ... back to your post. I'll have this conversation with you, IF, and only IF, you don't mention God, or religion, or scripture, and you talk in your own terms only, which you should be able to do. Your words, not someone elses. You should be able to explain your ideology without relying on that of a single notion of God (it may be similar to anothers, but I wont indulge you quoting scripture or 'because in bible verse whatever-the-fuck' it says blargh blargh blargh). Translate it into what YOU believe in human terms, otherwise there's no point (for me). And it's too insanely limiting.

As you said to FG earlier:

we want to hear YOUR words. YOUR struggles, YOUR experiences

Quoting or referring to Slayer Buddha or a perfect God as ultimates, will result in me getting zero out of the interaction.

Also, I can't have this conversation with the inclusion of the words 'good' and 'evil'. It HAS to be behaviourally related, or neuro related or emotively/emotionally related ... and discussed in terms like healthy or not healthy, ability to self-control, or need requirements, or consciously related, or neurocognitional ... or similar nomenclature that we (and you) have all referred to in this thread at some point or another ... a common, shared language about humans, if you will. No adhering to a specific religion's vocabulary and defaulting to God. And that leaves a huge open door away from science too.

Then, and only then will this conversation/debate have any relevance to me.

 

[pinkpapaver]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitus
well you learn something new every day. patron saint of dance. Tomorrow is st. Dorothy's day. that's my confirmation name.

 

[foolsgold]

simple i see it as he knew the story my life would take saw the intent of these people then aloud these things to happen to me as a child fuck him full stop i have no time for this bullshit where people say i can not apportion guilt on to him for these acts he made both good and evil yet its just the good that suffer yet he is meant to love us

anyway i am leaving this befor i say something to offend someone i.e. marmalade

 

[Marmalade]

FG, please dont worry about offending me. Say what you gotta. I'm not easily offended and you don't need to hold your tongue around me. I wont hold a grudge no matter what you want to get off your chest. Seriously.

Chances are, it's crossed wires or whatever between us anyway.

 

[Raasyvibe]

Knock you still havent given the thread a needed trimming from FG's numerous youtube videos.

If you want to work for me, you're gonna have to be more thorough than this.

 

[ColtDan]

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[Marmalade]

Knock you still havent given the thread a needed trimming from FG's numerous youtube videos.

If you want to work for me, you're gonna have to be more thorough than this.

Alby is around modding, why not ask him to do it?

 

[Raasyvibe]

Albi's already busy tidying up the music thread for me. I have a "team" for a reason, just SOMEBODY is slacking off their workload

 

[Raasyvibe]

I'm 41

aha! I secretely wondered but didn't wanna ask. I actually guessed 38-42.

But cocks and semen are soooooo lovely! Such hate ... for such naturally occurring organic matter Raasmond.

Watching a guy spurting his organic matter, because you ( I ) elicited the reaction is absolutely AWESOME on so many levels (it can be one of the ultimates in positive reinforcement - if we link it to the news thread and those gifs you didn't like that much ... apparently).

The organic matter is just a gooey, smelly, slimey substance. The fact you like to see it, is because you associate it with psychological rewards... no doubt coincided with that "positive reinforcement" you talked about. Makes you feel good about yourself, to make another man spill his load.

We all have a self-perception, and nothing will boost it such as receiving sexual attention. Relationships (especially when your young) are often very ego-related... seeing another person cum must be very rewarding to the ego.

At the same time, I think if you can find happiness in yourself you do not need that "psychological reward". People who demand a lot of sexual attention are usually quite insecure.

As you said "I have a libido". yes you do. You ALSO have a BRAIN. You have the capability of figuring out the psychological structure of sexual desire and rendering the libido obsolete. If you wish. You can change and reduce that excited perception towards the semen GIFs.. back down to the slimey, smelly, foul substance it is.

This is why I don't have any interest or enjoyment for these erotica gifs; they serve no purpose for me. I just see lot's of people who probably photo themselves to find their own positive reinforcement. What's so sexy about that.

I hope I'm making some sense here... really tired and ill

Ok, so ... back to your post. I'll have this conversation with you, IF, and only IF, you don't mention God, or religion, or scripture, and you talk in your own terms only, which you should be able to do. Your words, not someone elses. You should be able to explain your ideology without relying on that of a single notion of God (it may be similar to anothers, but I wont indulge you quoting scripture or 'because in bible verse whatever-the-fuck' it says blargh blargh blargh). Translate it into what YOU believe in human terms, otherwise there's no point (for me). And it's too insanely limiting.

Also, I can't have this conversation with the inclusion of the words 'good' and 'evil'. It HAS to be behaviourally related, or neuro related or emotively/emotionally related ...

"Good" and "evil" are viable terms by definition. Evil is defined as causing harm to another.

Of course there is a psychological structure, behind terms associated with evil (aggression, malice, opposition, enmity)... but I was only stating principles, not writing a book. lol

I understand though, you want to talk in terms you can identity with... and collaborate the psychological structures with the philosophy.

I'll have to do it another time.... im really ill..... I need some booze quickly

 

[Marmalade]

The organic matter is just a gooey, smelly, slimey substance. The fact you like to see it, is because you associate it with psychological rewards... no doubt coincided with that "positive reinforcement" you talked about. Makes you feel good about yourself, to make another man spill his load.

Absolutely NOTHING at all to do with my very well documented case of full on penis envy then?

Jesus Raas .... I can't wait for the rest of this shrink sesh.

I'm genuinely not one for schadenfreude but sometimes you do make it difficult for me not to indulge.

Of course it's gratifying to see the spoils of ones 'labour' in spurt format (as I told you above already). But the above about penis envy, is more just as relevant to me. Hence why I like viewing it in pictorial format ... You know I had nothing to do with that guy from the pic spilling his load, don't you? But I still loved the picture regardless.

PENIS ENVY Raas. As I've lamented with Shammy many times before, you guys have all the luck with genitals. You're born with a wanking machine and a little magic spot in your rectum.

You don't appreciate how lucky you are

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For anyone reading this who doesn't know what pics we're talking about they're from this post

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[Raasyvibe]

OH FUCKING HELL HENRY MARMZ I JUST HAD GOT THOSE FOUL PICS OUT OF MY MIND









(cap-rule breaker)

 

[Marmalade]

Cool ... I'll do you a huge post of gifs from my 'ejaculate' folder tonight.

Or maybe save it for Valentines Day? ...

 

[foolsgold]

Absolutely NOTHING at all to do with my very well documented case of full on penis envy then?

Jesus Raas .... I can't wait for the rest of this shrink sesh.

I'm genuinely not one for schadenfreude but sometimes you do make it difficult for me not to indulge.

Of course it's gratifying to see the spoils of ones 'labour' in spurt format (as I told you above already). But the above about penis envy, is more just as relevant to me. Hence why I like viewing it in pictorial format ... You know I had nothing to do with that guy from the pic spilling his load, don't you? But I still loved the picture regardless.

PENIS ENVY Raas. As I've lamented with Shammy many times before, you guys have all the luck with genitals. You're born with a wanking machine and a little magic spot in your rectum.

You don't appreciate how lucky you are

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For anyone reading this who doesn't know what pics we're talking about they're from this post

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fucking hell marmalade lmfao poor old jesus crispy raas is going to burn in hell with the rest of us now after showing him that nice one

 

[ColtDan]

raas hates cocks? My silly old vallied brain is a bit baffled. do you hate your own cock? are you scared of cocks?

 

[Marmalade]

I think it's more the semen that puts him off ...other peoples. Understandable, but I can't see the need for such rabid revulsion

 

[foolsgold]

homophobic or just a closet homo ? thats normally the case

 

[ColtDan]

if i see somebody elses semen i just think... oh look hes got some semen. ive got some of that. just like if i see a nipple. Oh look ive got a couple of them

 

[Raasyvibe]

I think it's more the semen that puts him off ...other peoples. Understandable, but I can't see the need for such rabid revulsion

homophobic or just a closet homo ? thats normally the case

if i see somebody elses semen i just think... oh look hes got some semen. ive got some of that. just like if i see a nipple. Oh look ive got a couple of them

Sorry I'd forgotten all about our little theological discourse on our perceptions of man-jizz.


There's nothing homophobic about finding bodily fluids to be gross. I think spunk is gross, just like piss or poopoo. However out of the 3, another mans spunk tops my most dire list by a long way... possibly stemming from a personal distaste in same-sex relationships, not homophobia