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just caught me eye i can make a £200 in 2 a small fortune live like a king on the Duoro init see Fc {Porto Bairrio alexio , Rua Escura alll fits in wit my g day n all
Tenancy n Passport all u need
4 a graft
 
Never been but I did manage a long weekend in Haarlem (including return train and flight but not accomodation - which turned out to be a mistake :|) on a giro once. Actually was probably two - tickets bought with the first and spending money on the second. Didn't quite go to plan and never thought to try such a thing since. Is doable to get away if you really plan it (or really wing it) but does tend to leave ya a bit short when you get back. And when you buy the tickets for that matter. Glad I went all the same. Sort of (was a bit of a fuck-up in the end to be sure - had to get MamaSham to wire me money to get back after being (sort of) robbed and left with nowhere to stay for a few days :o).
 
What happened to Leah Betts? its been called rinseout for years. drum n bass nights. still love dnb but not too keen on the nights these days, mcs get annoying. pref glitch hop, house, etc
 
ColtDan said:
What happened to Leah Betts? its been called rinseout for years. drum n bass nights. still love dnb but not too keen on the nights these days, mcs get annoying. pref glitch hop, house, etc
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Leah Betts was probably the first Ecstasy death that caused a Media sensation - her father was Ex Police and this was mid 90's so the media loved the story.

It was reported that she drank too much water (12 pints in 90 minutes according to wiki) after consuming Ecstasy and then suffered from water intoxication and hyponatremia resulting in her death. I doubt that the clubbers or promoters have even heard of her so I don't think its in bad taste.

If my memory serves me correctly - she had taken the Tablet called New Yorker (Apple Logo).
 
them billboards was massive t'rass

It was all mis info

shame allround , a girl dies n it is tragic yeah but a lad died last nite fell in the river by my gaff . Happens every year for last 5/6 a student will die , the council have spent £20,000 puting up n railings on teh river bank .

But ultimatley the dead are drunk when they fall in .

I have fallen in the Avon in fukin January me n a mate stopped 4 a reefer n next we was in the River well i was n i dragged him in wiv me !

But we knows the currents cos we is local nearly got amonia sp ;) walkin home . Rivers eh ?

Drowning still init .
 
Leah Betts: As Bear mentioned, major media story of the early-mid 90s - first really big anti-Ecstasy push that I recall. At the time the claim was that she died "from a single tablet" with the implication being that taking Ecstasy was a complete lottery and anybody doing so could die at any point with no warning. Pictures of her filled with tubes and stuff were all over the place - big billboards and stuff even. When it was discovered that she actually died from following then current government information to the letter (which was, at the time, to drink as much water as possible cos Ecstasy makes you overheat). She basically died from water intoxication - over-diluting essential salts and stuff to the point the body can't function any more. Terrible shame cos it was totally preventable if accurate HR info had been widely available back then.

It's also either twisted or amusing (depending on perspective) that the pills she was reported to have taken (Apples) became the most widely sought-after pills in the country following the reports. I was at college at the time and was at the pub playing pool with me bestest buddy a week or so after the story broke and noticed Dunk (said bestest mate at the time) was unusually happy and dopey and kinda fuzzy round the edges so asked him wha' gwarnin. He got all conspiratorial and giggly and pulled a handful of said Apple pills out his pocket and grinned like a Cheshire cat. HR was actually much better served by supping a cold beer (just the one or two - was only lunchtime) than guzzling vasty quantities of water. An equivalent quantity of water would've been even better obviously... but we had a bit of a think for bottles of Holsten Pils at the time. Served inna glass with ice for reasons I can't quite recall. Laaaaarvely on a hot summer afternoon though <3

Pee Ess: I do believe that was the very first time I actually saw an ecstasy pill as it happens. Was still a few years before I actually got around to trying the stuff. Was a bit of a late-developer in the ecstasy stuffs for no particular reason other than I was actually kinda nervy about drugs back then. Facinated but nervy.
 
^yup - people were going crazy for them and they were being called 'killers' after her death :\. New stamps seemed to be coming out pretty quickly then anyway so they didn't stick around that long.

Didn't really do much to put people off from dropping that I witnessed anyway.
 
I think people who were already somewhat experienced users already knew that drinking water by the gallon was a very bad idea and that the drug itself was not immediately lethal in that way. Although it was still fairly early on in terms of mainstream use all the people I knew who used it seemed to be pretty clued up about the basics. Admittedly I did still hear plenty of hoary ol' cliches about "getting lodged in the spine so when you crack your back you get high" and the like. I think that one is still official US stance on LSD :D

And yes, whenever a stamp is said to have killed somebody they always get really popular. It's kinda twisted but I think people are so used to media reports being innacurate they just assume it must be anything other than the pill that did the damage. Not the cleverest attitude these days in particular with all those PMA/PMMA pills popping up :\
 
Wouldn't call it addiction where ecstasy is concerned. Not unless you've become American recently ;)

It is a bloody stupid mentality, for sure. The explanations I've always heard from people is something along the lines of "Well if they died those pills must be superstrong - woot!!!". Anybody who knows anything about MDMA should hopefully realise this makes no sense cos MDMA isn't acutely toxic in that way so it ain't likely to be that which killed the poor unfortunate - much more likely to be pipz or PMA/PMMA or simply bad journalism missing out other substances and/or circumstances involved.
 
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I think people who were already somewhat experienced users already knew that drinking water by the gallon was a very bad idea and that the drug itself was not immediately lethal in that way. Although it was still fairly early on in terms of mainstream use all the people I knew who used it seemed to be pretty clued up about the basics. Admittedly I did still hear plenty of hoary ol' cliches about "getting lodged in the spine so when you crack your back you get high" and the like. I think that one is still official US stance on LSD :D

And yes, whenever a stamp is said to have killed somebody they always get really popular. It's kinda twisted but I think people are so used to media reports being innacurate they just assume it must be anything other than the pill that did the damage. Not the cleverest attitude these days in particular with all those PMA/PMMA pills popping up :\
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And the old chestnut about legs shattering ? I think now that people who know a little bit about the scene are more cautious when they hear about a bad stamp, those not in the know still seem to pop anything they get.
 
Ha! Nope. Never heard the legs shattering one - that's brilliant =D

"Draining spinal fluid" was the most popular one I recall. To be fair, it's not like the average British yoof is likely to have done the equivalent amount of exercise as bouncing around a field for 12h straight so probably did come as a shock how sore you can get just from dancing your botty off for a night.
 
Shambles said:
Ha! Nope. Never heard the legs shattering one - that's brilliant =D

"Draining spinal fluid" was the most popular one I recall. To be fair, it's not like the average British yoof is likely to have done the equivalent amount of exercise as bouncing around a field for 12h straight so probably did come as a shock how sore you can get just from dancing your botty off for a night.
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The spinal fluid one was pretty common - not sure where that came from but the stories were pretty bizzare, especially when people were sitting about talking shit about what there friend had seen at a previous rave :D. Then the stories about the adulterants in pills (glass - so it cut your throat to let more E in was a classic) :D.
 
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