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EADD Heroin thread v.XXV -- a quarter centuary of threads if not yet a full decade since the 'drought'...
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AlsoTapered
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It's interesting to me that the UK has reasonably tight boarder control - it's an island. So a lot of users switched to using the darkweb to avoid having to buy stuff face-to-face. For a while Customs and Excise were hot on stopping those little packages arriving from Europe but I've noticed that in the last couple of years they have backed off.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Of course, now nitazenes are turning up, I'm sure they will be stopping that market and thus pushing people back onto the street and in harms way.
In the UK their are definitely two totally different distribution systems at play but the police evidently go after those whose product is being sold on the street.
If you just know people who quietly get on with their business, stick to a small number of regular customers and look after those customers, Delivery is the model that's turning up in some UK cities. I believe Glasgow is the furthest ahead but drug dependence is considered a medical issue, not a legal one so put those two ideas together and it minimizes harm.
Short of stopping ALL drug use which isn't possible.
Even the US is waking up to making weed legal so the police don't waste time on something that was only made illegal for political reasons (to stop hemp being grown to the advantage of those who owned the alternative - forests). Now mushrooms because nobody can even CLAIM it's causing harm.
Just make opium legal. Problem solved. It's been legal for 4300 years and has only been a problem since it was controlled.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Of course, now nitazenes are turning up, I'm sure they will be stopping that market and thus pushing people back onto the street and in harms way.
In the UK their are definitely two totally different distribution systems at play but the police evidently go after those whose product is being sold on the street.
If you just know people who quietly get on with their business, stick to a small number of regular customers and look after those customers, Delivery is the model that's turning up in some UK cities. I believe Glasgow is the furthest ahead but drug dependence is considered a medical issue, not a legal one so put those two ideas together and it minimizes harm.
Short of stopping ALL drug use which isn't possible.
Even the US is waking up to making weed legal so the police don't waste time on something that was only made illegal for political reasons (to stop hemp being grown to the advantage of those who owned the alternative - forests). Now mushrooms because nobody can even CLAIM it's causing harm.
Just make opium legal. Problem solved. It's been legal for 4300 years and has only been a problem since it was controlled.
That rap song was depressing but had a really good beat.
Tell that to the Chinese before the Opium wars. There country was being decimated by drug use, Opium
AlsoTapered
Bluelighter
No - the US media confabulate the term 'knife crime' with 'stabbing'. Being caught with a knife is included in those statistics.
I know people who have carried knives for self-protection. Not people intent on committing a crime or involved with criminals, mostly people who had been mugged, generally by someone with a weapon.
AlsoTapered
Bluelighter
Oh, it was keeping people POOR most certainly - but people weren't dying. You cannot successfully run a business enterprise based on swapping opium for tea for 200+ years if it was killing the people needed to grow the tea.
Your right, there are so few Chinese people
ageingpartyfiend
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As has already been mentioned knife-possession is recorded as knifecrime, skewing the stats a bit
If is mainly defifinitely gang / drug terf based yeah. However, it's increasingly commong to hear of stabbings in scenario swhen even up to a few years ago it wouldv'e been a fist situation, so it it's on the increase in general
Looks to me like your disaffected 12-16 (up to an immature 20) year olds who have been immersed in this since little kids now just think knive possession/use is just a fact/way of life. I most definitely wouldn't be drawing attention to myself from any of that demographic thesedays (not on the street anyway)
What is the law about how big a knife blade you can carry in the UK? Here it is normal to carry a pocket knife. Are there probable cause laws or can the boobies(pun intended) just stop and harass anyone? What about unconcealed sheathed knives
AlsoTapered
Bluelighter
Mate - even kitchen knives (which to be fair have been used in stabbings) are TECHNICALLY illegal! It's crazy.
What I've seen gangs do is stash knives in places where drug deals go down so they aren't walking around with them.
That said, the town I'm from saw one of the most senseless shootings I've ever heard of. A guy was selling from his home and a gang wanted his business. A punter went round just to pick up and the gang followed him in. They then proceeded to point a gun at the dealer's child. Said punter said 'don't shoot the child, shoot me.' Last words he ever spoke. The gang DID shoot him. Not the dealer, just the random punter after a £10 bag.
What I found REALLY creepy is that the relatives of the victim actually painted said punter as some kind of gangster to set up their OWN drug dealing gang.
I lived just a few hundred yards away but had learnt long before to mind my own business and avoid and potential situations. I was still double glad to move far, far away. When the murder of a family-member is being used that way - you know it's a place with no hope.
Wow, even by American standards that shooting is horrific. I only have access to the internet on my phone, which gets bad reception due to a local cell tower problem.
I looked up( took a little while) but the UK knife laws are well, very strict, to put it mildly.
That guy who said shoot me sure as hell was no gangster.
Punter means what in UK slang?
I looked up( took a little while) but the UK knife laws are well, very strict, to put it mildly.
That guy who said shoot me sure as hell was no gangster.
Punter means what in UK slang?
BadBoy377
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It's legal to carry a non locking blade of 3 inches or less. You can carry what the fuck you like if you have an appropriate reason to do so.
I remember a case few years back. A heroin addict claimed he carried the knife to cut up cans to cook up his shots in. He did not win his case... 10/10 fro effort though...
BadBoy377
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Buyer, customer. Pub opens and the punters file in...
AlsoTapered
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It get's better - I just discovered the brother of the punter who was shot killed himself (threw himself off a bridge) the day after the shooter was convicted.
That seems highly unlikely to be a coincidence. Those are the victims we often forget.