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EADD-Heroin-Discussion-v-XXIII-New shit - same old problems

I have stopped the bupe, doc and worker thought ad be best on meh ..... because of the meds from my quack, which i don't take.

But since av been on the meth i feel like it's better for me , probs cause it's a full opoid. Am only low at 30ml was meant to go up today i was late for my app, I sat for 20 mins had something to do, because i feel I need the meth early doors , luckily av got kit there , but i can't be bursting into that every morning, so tomorrow going early to get it and properly fell out with the missus, I need my own house for a few reasons, as a
Under criminal Social worker they're meant to help, help my hole. Best they can do is a place in another town where I literally don't know and made a few enemies from in side, but I can't stay here with my mum, it's driving me nuts!! Got things i want to go but tomorrow am going on there case from early , get my meth sorted and a house, hope i don't wake up before 8;30 rattlin' , my chemist don't do there meth till half 9 but open at 9, just to fuck us junkies about, definetly need up for my 30ml , best they can do is 40, ain't going above 50ml anyway. Defo feel like meth is better for me than subby, for sure.
 
YMI_BISHoP said:
Why is the quality of H declining
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In my local area... greed.

Before Christmas after a few shit ones I was given a tester and it was amazing. By the time I went back to buy some it had been bashed up so much it was as piss weak as before. It was helpful though as it was kind of the straw that broke the camels back. Primarily for other reasons I've stopped taking it now.
 
steewith2ees said:
In my local area... greed.

Before Christmas after a few shit ones I was given a tester and it was amazing. By the time I went back to buy some it had been bashed up so much it was as piss weak as before. It was helpful though as it was kind of the straw that broke the camels back. Primarily for other reasons I've stopped taking it now.
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Nice one Stee :) Is the meth holding you ok?
 
Yeah bud absolutely fine but I asked them to hold it at 30mg over the 'holiday' period so I wouldn't HAVE to use on top (I did anyway but only once and to get high). It's all very well and good saying all this while in my right mind though - I'm seeing the doc again in the next fortnight after which it will probably go into freefall so I'm not counting any chickens yet...
 
Are you gonna stick at 30, that's what I am just started recently was meant to go & put up but things came up, gonna chance and go in and try and get up to 40mls, in the morning I have been feeling like shit, so have been bursting into bags and sniffing just to take away the death, been giving me a good dunt before i get my 30mls , still using benzo but generally have cut down, though tonight I have took 14 5mg yellows in the last few hours, plus smoking nice pollen, I am chilled, but il be looking for a nod!! Less your planning on giving up on the opiate feelin' 30ml won't do ya , i was looking at 50 as my ideal dose , want to stop taking brown but what that opiate feeling, because along with benzos i feel I need them to funanction, my family know with the benzos soon as I have any it seems, my mothers not naive to the streets let say, and she is pissed I am taking loose vals, and I get by ok around people on opiates less am full of benzos and gouching & that is something i don't look to do durning the day , at night i like to chill, with vals & weed being number one, i don't generally do opiates at night i was generally with her, ok when she was away for a night I would smoke kit for sure, but hear at my mums there's always someone about the noise of the foil always gives the game away so if taking in the morning to get well I will sniff , at one time my addiction was tolerated and I could smoke in the room it causes riots, if a plan it i wait till night time till there in bed, smoking gear at like 12pm is a waste I think, usually with opiates durning the day and benzos i catch a nod, some times a bag about 7/8 to make sure that's the case. Really want this meth to hold me & give me the opiate feeling i crave
 
nodding my head off and ive only been sniffing subs and taking msj's
been a while and its a good treat that i wont be repeating soon
got amitriptyline 2 x 25mg tablets, would they mix well? or should i save them for bed time?

anyway hows everyone doing? how u keepin fightingthetoot and stee? hope all is well!
 
Ez matt - can't exactly say I'm in a state of euphoria but amongst other things it's just that time of year I suppose. Happy new year - onwards and upwards... I wouldn't bother with the amitriptyline if you have a nice goof on there's no need to be introducing another downer that will only make you feel tired at best and genuinely poorly if you are not careful - I hate those yokes.

FTT - Don't know exactly where I'm going next dose wise apart from down - I started reducing from 70mg last Feb. but asked them to hold it at 30 over Christmas as I felt a bit poorly following my last drop and didn't want to fall into the habit of topping up with heroin. Hope your ok - stay safe.
 
Just doin' ma thing Matt, bad things!! Subby & nodding how a wish I could do still for a gouch, in the nick at half 8 dub up always made sure i had at least a bit for a joint of legal high & a ml of subby, usually sniff the subby at rec about 7 at night while we where in somebody's gaff, on the dog an bone our camp had, puffin' legal, you'd go behind your door and nod the fuck out , a didn't beleive it at first a ml gets you flying, outside it barley holds of WD for me.


Stee- some people have said i have made a big mistake in changing for subs to meth, but a doc & my worker thought it was for the best because I kept fucking up my script by not going for cause ad hit a 10 day bender or whatever, so moved me to meth can't say much has changed. I started a week ago on 30, up to 40 yesterday, but all week in the morning I was bursting into tenner bags and sniffin them literally not even getting out of bed without sniffin' a bag, wake up reach grab a card and a note, the gear always on me for obv reasons, I would burst it onto iPhone screen and chop the best I can, sometimes I thought i nearly broke the screen with the hard rocks in the gear , sniff it and literally feel it within seconds taking over my body , taking the feeling of death away and replacing with a warm fuzzy feeling, that's literally before am out of bed , can't be bursting into a 10 bag every morning , yesterday / last night , was fucked up on diazepam and high grade green really nice stuff , amazing actually, & I promised today I wouldn't wake up & sniff a 10z today I would just go for my meth - which I succesfully managed to do, while I was out at the chemist i had to see my vals man who stays real close to my chemist, this was still quite early so I didn't even bother to phone till i walked out the chemist & the fucker wasn't in, I was fucking raging, but I thought fuckit al get him tonight , I came home still pissed of & there was a ready rolled joint of green sitting, packed!! Av blazed that & feel asleep, woke up and felt like shite and what did I do ........ burst a bag opened sniffed it, made me feel better obv, was pissed of at my vals man I said fuckit am getting wasted on gear, I could go and get him it isn't that far I could even get a taxi but my mums heavy on my case even trying to get out to meet someone is a mission , brutal!! Hopefully have my own place this week, so my social worker said, literally as typing this she having a go lol shouted me through for some Chinese then I started getting accused of being full of valium , it's heroin actually FYI lol loads of shit connected to why it causes so much shit , but she is off her nut, I know what do wrong, I just need out this house, today I tried to get out my nut and successfully did so, I stayed in the room like a do 99% of the time anyway, shouted me through for some Chinese , which I didn't even want & got abuse for a good half hour. I need to get to fuck out out of here , not bad enough she costs me money because I need to pass people on to other people , she said I need to pay more dig money, i give her 40 a week already, all i do i use the power for tv, phones chargers and a few other things i need to charge, a shower a day plus my clothes washed surly 40 a week covers that ??? I need out of here she has purposely cost me money , she does it at every opportunity lol says then I can't buy drugs, fuckimg bonkers, and my old man started pitching in with his shite, no where near as bad as her & that's only cause my mum told my dad if he didn't stop the diazepam he had to leave & he stopped, pussy!! Because at first he said no , then was getting off me on the fly, but that came out , and now when my parengs are in a mood am fair game , tbh I am smashed but am in the room out the way, I shouldn't be taking drugs but I am grown ass man, if I was to go & have a drink ad get shit for that too, my mum even said to me as much as she hated both she rather me take junk than valium, that's what av done lol I have sniffed 6 bags , about .2 give or take a little, plus had my 40 mls of today at 1pm, & been sniffin' throughout today/this evening , smoking nice pollen tonight, I am smashed, so hope this is readable & I hope everyone is doing well & no one is out their suffering. Took me time to write this, not letting em wankers ruin my dunt, gonna gouch ma tits off!!
 
Their house their rules, you've literally no recourse or right to criticise them for asking not to take drugs and get wasted in their house. Plus if your dad used to take benzos bu has now quit, it's pretty shitty of you to be visually intoxicated in front of him.

Either move out or stop using
 
Am trying to move out bro, so fucking much & I agree with what your saying , but I try stay away for them and then rip my room apart & shit, wasn't working at home because of drugs mainly, I am a selfish addict it would seem, and are caught up in the middle of an addiction, they should know better than most, but it's a case of stop every thing right now , when they know that is near impossible ,had a gear habit , went on meth and still used everyday so probs have 2 addictions plus I have got the benzos to deal with , fuckin hard mate but I get by , still have nice clothes ( in my fashion sense anyway) do a few bits an bobs , introduce new people, get by but staying here is brutal, never had yellows but got some Xanax in, 2mg bars, clearly fakes but are still what they say they are, all over the dark web though that isn't where I got mine.

So after 2mg bars and stinky cheese , am stoned to fuck, I even gave them some green so hopefully it keeps me off there backs off!! Am not taking anymore of they bars to bed time, av got a good bit of the cheese grinded up so will smash through that till bed time when I will take another 1/2 bars and be absolutely fucked , am in a drugs circle just now, but I know I know my own place , I can either have my drugs easy peasy , or I get sorted out , which I know I can, only taking so much shit because I feel so shit, back at ya mums for the first time in 7/8.year, doesn't feel normal to me, I need out it's fucking me big for everything but I need a roof over my head , just keeping my head above water , but that's cause am taking a lot of the drugs, if a got my own place ad stop cause ad want ma house done up and get out there an graft, it's my situation that is making me use, pretty fucked as I said just gonna smoke another greener!!
 
Man, gear has been really up & down round my way.
Lot of money wasted on mannitol shite.
Now lucky to get 6/10 stuff p4 for 25£ . that's the best I can get .
Use to get p6 for that of 8/10 gear.

Got some real crap today, 1/10. Basically a rip off in my eyes.
And this from guy I known ten years
 
Gear seems to have got worse everywhere, I properly had a binge before Christmas (stupidly) bought quarter of an ounce and smoked it all in 4 days (it used to be 2 grams would last me that long), I thought at first I just had a really high tolerance but I could tell there was something off about it. This was street grade in the East Yorkshire area and a lot of users around here have been grumbling about the quality.

I ordered 6x8mg subutex online and 8x2mg suboxone, and gave myself a fast taper (I swear you don't need to be on it months, that's what fucks you trying to get off it) the last 2mg pill I had I managed to last over 4 days by breaking it into quarters, I was only taking it two weeks to fully cover the H withdrawal and haven't had any since Saturday morning and i've had practically no withdrawal feelings at all bar a very minor bit of the runs yesterday and a very slight chill when I wake up in the morning (a couple of cups of coffee sets that right though)

I'd recommend trying this for people who don't want to fuck around with being on substitutes for months on end. Compared to the last time I came off subs properly, after being on them for 10 months and stopping on 0.4mg I don't feel remotely as bad.

Edit:Scratch that, ignore everything I posted above. I was fine all morning at work, went to lunch then when I got back to my desk the withdrawal all kicked in at once, had the most horrible afternoon in months, trying to give legal advice whilst rattling is not fun. Time moved at a fraction of the speed and by 4pm I was on the horn to a dealer and despite having 20p to my name I was given 5 bags and enough subs to last me a month, I get paid soon but fuck i'm a complete idiot. back to square one, atleast I feel like Jesus on the 3rd day.

fucking mondays :(
 
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PredatorVision said:
like Jesus on the 3rd day.
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Haha, I used to make that comparison all the time. I do very much liken the path and progress of the road to recovery rather similar to a Gnostic experience of the divine, though.

I've managed to only use four times in the last 16 days myself. I was almost at 11 days off before I got a knock on the door last Saturday from a former associate who had come into some stuff and needed to get rid of it. I've had to block his number because he keeps calling me wanting to get rid of more. Thats actually all of my sources that I've cut off contact with now, along with refusing offers of methadone to 'bring me down easy' (truth be told it just prolongs the inevitable) and ceasing all associations with users too.

I have ordered some valium though - certainly looking forward to those whenever they manage to arrive.
 
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endlessnameless said:
Haha, I used to make that comparison all the time. I do very much liken the path and progress of the road to recovery rather similar to a Gnostic experience of the divine, though.

I've managed to only use four times in the last 16 days myself. I was almost at 11 days off before I got a knock on the door last Saturday from a former associate who had come into some stuff and needed to get rid of it. I've had to block his number because he keeps calling me wanting to get rid of more. Thats actually all of my sources that I've cut off contact with now, along with refusing offers of methadone to 'bring me down easy' (truth be told it just prolongs the inevitable) and ceasing all associations with users too.

I have ordered some valium though - certainly looking forward to those whenever they manage to arrive.
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Working is probably one of the main things that keeps me using, I can't ever have enough time off to go through withdrawal.. If I could just get two weeks to myself miles away from where I live it would set me off in the right direction..

One of the biggest problems is just how easy it is to score, especially in a small city where dealers you know will give big amounts on the tick.
 
i feel into temptation today and had a hit, broke through my subs and got that lovely warm feeling again, wont be repeating though
bags are reducing in price here and quality is up according to multiple sources, the stuff i had was just 2 re-washes and i was feeling lovely, not goofing just perfect
now back to my subs :(
 
@mattk
You're lucky, things ain't great round my ways.

Seriously, last two days I've counted myself lucky at getting good stuff p1 for a tenner, no price breaks.

Yep, you read that right. Lucky to get p1 bags.lol
 
@ Matt wouldn't be hard on ya self mate, and I wouldn't use it for an excuse , if you want a hellish life style , stick to that one off, because your on subs soon as you hit them again you stop feelig the rattles etc , I found a hole diazepam filled. Thats where my diazies use got out of hand & still is out of hand, I got these 100 2mg bars, definetly alprazolam in them and de finetly at a high dose, but i think my locallly made tubs have pushed my tolerence sky high, they might be yellow but if any them contained the 5mg ad be shocked , maybe sure with less but loads with loads more no quality control , I do know for a fact only a certain mobbed where putting on the yellows tube with a scientence on shit side and shit!!!
To me they didn't have coat basically all tabs have got a coating on em, I know of the fakes but i dont deal with them less it's bair!!!, am dealing with this dude & I know there the best about , because of boxes trying up? The 5z I get are best about and not to killed anyone, woman & man took the same & he woke & she didn't , is it just what's in the "vals" , because some amount gets shifted in my town alone, it's arse on the arse end of Glasgow , so back and forth a lot!!

Today - we both argeeed if they couldn't get they am sorry but am our doin' other things!! Picked up 9am, saves a pay day on a driver! Told my man was only doin till 9, had zannies, good b & suppose to good green, am driving about chewing half bars here or there, before i went out 9am i had broken up a bar and kind of sucked and put under my tounge and had a Gucci coffee, when he came bang on 9 told him had to go get a pricripton , while am going in for meth , dirty junkie bastard!!

We were about doin' what was on the list, got few of mine away, I need a gaff of my own, for sure!

Phoned my brother for the driver, was told 10 bells, nah didn't want to wait when as off shift in the next 45, explained to my brother told him as want home to chill and with my liesense they all want me away from it easier said than done, when yev got absolutely no other choices,

As my brother didn't have, the driver said he could "bangin, dank buds" driver boy phoned him & he said he was all out of Qz , Hafz & Oz , thats why it's just runner boy out now doin 20s, asked much was in it he said 1.6/1.7 , said not gonna waste time on a point, said what tell ya givin me for 50, looking for 3 - 20s for 50, and the driver got 2 for 30, it was a nice stinky dry, did look at pics of "Super Silver Lemon Haze" looks like what it says on the tin & after doing my reserach , it is banging!! My research consisted of getting a raw out, up till that point had nothing bait on me, the weed broke easily over the joint!

I got dropped with say 2.5g of gucci week , "the tester" had me stoned, as am back at my mums what feels like forever, that's why I take drugs if I had my live on my own , ad do my own thing, my own house with my responablitys, fuck them on my case 24/7 , even at that it's not gonna stop me!!!


Today av ate abourn 9 bars easy, 40ml of meth sniffed, a bag then another, annoying moment, my main man said every bag I sniff the moneys gonnab put by for them, but he's right if a can't handle having Qz how can a handle having more, I can do 20z of the proper white & just needs to get on the right does of meth and cut back the benzos.
 
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