F.U.B.A.R.
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It's impressive enough that you came off all that CT, but to continue working through it, especially in a job as stressful as yours, is the stuff legends are made of 
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breakcorefiend
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FUBAR you CT'ed off meth too right? or did you taper down? How were your wds from it?
F.U.B.A.R.
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No way man! I'm far too much of a cissy for that. I tapered for a long, long time, with many relapses and increases in my dose, until I got down to 1mg/day and finally thought 'fuck this shit, I don't need it in my life anymore', and stopped. It'll be a year in April and I've never looked back.
I didn't suffer any WDs at the end whatsoever doing it that way, though I did have some psychological trauma during the reductions.
Tryptamite
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eng, i was clean for a year before I relapsed. I will have only had a habit for 7 months. I have detoxed many times before and have had a 6 year relationship with opiates. hopefully the methadone wont have had a chance to seep into me by the time i quit. I take methadone maybe 5 days a week, but just a low dose, I try to keep my dose at 25mg a day and i've been doing quite well. I use gear once or twice a week, when i cant get methadone or when i fancy a treat.
thanks for the concern man, but if its hard and long, ill still go through it because I have to. My path for life is mapped out. I have a step plan, and chemical dependency is not part of it. Especially opiates, this is a dependency that really interferes with my life.
Anyway ive been using anti-histamines and anti-cholinergics when i want to take a little more than my maintenance dose and increase some of the effects and really enhances the nod.
cyclizine is the best. ive been taking it orally because cyclizine hcl insnt very soluble in water. you really need to extract the cyclizine, turn it into its basic form and then salt it with lactate acid or citric acid which is what i did, its easily accessible and cyclizine citrate i discovered is highly water soluble. There is no point attempting this with less than 10 cyclizine tablets (500mg). If people want I will write up the procedure in the name of harm reduction. H and cyclizine is a great rush!!
we can get travel sickness tablets here that are scopolamine, 300 mics. 4 or 5 of them and you can really feel the nod. this is actual scopolamine (hyoscine) hydrobromide, not buscopan which is hyoscine butylhydrobromide and is not the same.
they used to administer scopolamine along with morphine in hospitals, it was known as "twilight sleep". the problem is scopolamine has a very low oral bioavailability so I have no idea what an appropriate IV dose would be. However 150 mics (half a tablet) was ok for me and had a nice rush with the gear.
thanks for the concern man, but if its hard and long, ill still go through it because I have to. My path for life is mapped out. I have a step plan, and chemical dependency is not part of it. Especially opiates, this is a dependency that really interferes with my life.
Anyway ive been using anti-histamines and anti-cholinergics when i want to take a little more than my maintenance dose and increase some of the effects and really enhances the nod.
cyclizine is the best. ive been taking it orally because cyclizine hcl insnt very soluble in water. you really need to extract the cyclizine, turn it into its basic form and then salt it with lactate acid or citric acid which is what i did, its easily accessible and cyclizine citrate i discovered is highly water soluble. There is no point attempting this with less than 10 cyclizine tablets (500mg). If people want I will write up the procedure in the name of harm reduction. H and cyclizine is a great rush!!
we can get travel sickness tablets here that are scopolamine, 300 mics. 4 or 5 of them and you can really feel the nod. this is actual scopolamine (hyoscine) hydrobromide, not buscopan which is hyoscine butylhydrobromide and is not the same.
they used to administer scopolamine along with morphine in hospitals, it was known as "twilight sleep". the problem is scopolamine has a very low oral bioavailability so I have no idea what an appropriate IV dose would be. However 150 mics (half a tablet) was ok for me and had a nice rush with the gear.
BigG
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It's impressive enough that you came off all that CT, but to continue working through it, especially in a job as stressful as yours, is the stuff legends are made of
Well i took 2 weeks off of annual leave i had due but in the scope of a 7 month rattle that was of little help. I honestly thought i was losing my mind at one point. The utter irony is when your work colleagues comment on how well you're looking when your dieing on the inside. I wouldnt wish that shit on anyone mate.
BigG
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Yours probably wont be as bad as mine then mate. I was in pain management for 20 years on massive doses and was at 180mg of meth for 10 years so thats probably as severe a situation as you can get.
I really admire you attitude though bro. You know what you want and are determined to succeed as was I. At the end of the day its mind over matter and if you want it bad enough you'll do it. If i can get through it you can too brother. Wishing you all the best.
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Yeah, I used to potentiate my meth and gear with hyoscine hydrobromide - worked a treat. In fact, I'd forgotten all about that stuff until you mentioned it.
Tryptamite
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Yeah man, that is a serious achievement to come off that kind of dose! well done.
technically i have fully relapsed. but i learned so much in the time i was clean and I consider myself to be still growing, although perhaps stunted by opiate use. I have relatives and parents to thank for helping me financially with a private rehab and one relative in particular, who put me on the right path and pointed me in the direction i need to go.
i dont want to let them down. I think there is no need for them to know. i feel bad keeping it from them, especially from my cousin who helped me so much, but ill get through it and really this is a learning experience and just a wall to climb.
as much as i love opiates at this point in my life i dont have the willpower to control drugs of this caliber. Im either off, or Im on. And i need to be off if im going to accomplish the things i want to do over the next 5 years.
I'm literally choosing life
technically i have fully relapsed. but i learned so much in the time i was clean and I consider myself to be still growing, although perhaps stunted by opiate use. I have relatives and parents to thank for helping me financially with a private rehab and one relative in particular, who put me on the right path and pointed me in the direction i need to go.
i dont want to let them down. I think there is no need for them to know. i feel bad keeping it from them, especially from my cousin who helped me so much, but ill get through it and really this is a learning experience and just a wall to climb.
as much as i love opiates at this point in my life i dont have the willpower to control drugs of this caliber. Im either off, or Im on. And i need to be off if im going to accomplish the things i want to do over the next 5 years.
I'm literally choosing life
Tryptamite
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yeah its great. anti-cholinergic, anti-muscarinic i think but no anti-histamine action. there is a train of thought that links low dose scopolamine as being efficient for depression.
did you ever IV it? are they the same pink melt-in-your-mouth we get in ireland?
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Yeah man, that is a serious achievement to come off that kind of dose! well done.
technically i have fully relapsed. but i learned so much in the time i was clean and I consider myself to be still growing, although perhaps stunted by opiate use. I have relatives and parents to thank for helping me financially with a private rehab and one relative in particular, who put me on the right path and pointed me in the direction i need to go.
i dont want to let them down. I think there is no need for them to know. i feel bad keeping it from them, especially from my cousin who helped me so much, but ill get through it and really this is a learning experience and just a wall to climb.
as much as i love opiates at this point in my life i dont have the willpower to control drugs of this caliber. Im either off, or Im on. And i need to be off if im going to accomplish the things i want to do over the next 5 years.
I'm literally choosing life
Nice one mate, go for it!
One word of advice (and I couldn't see this until I stopped completely) - don't kid yourself that you can use gear every now and then as a treat. It's like taking one step forward and ten back, and shows you're not ready to stop. If you start thinking like that, grab yourself by the neck and give yourself a good slap.
BigG
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Very true. I think ever person who's ever been addicted to opiates thinks "well i can stop and then just use every now and then" but if that was the case then that person wouldnt be in the situation they're in now needing to come off. It is literally impossible to use ever now and again once youve had an addiction like that.
Ive just come out of hospital after surgery and even the small anounts of opiates i was given post surgery have caused me problems. I actually wasnt aware i was been given them at the time as i just remember the doc pushing a syringe through the cannula in my hand. Usually i always ask what im being given before i accept anything but i was fucked off the anaethetic. If id known it was IV tramadol i would have told him to forget it and give me IV paracetamol instead.
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No, I never IVd them - this was after I'd stopped using pins. I used to neck 5 or 6 on top of my meth (not everyday though) or if I got the occasional bag. Yes, they were pink and melty in the mouthy - but I can't remember the brand name for the life of me. I used to rob them from Asda when times were hard...
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Hi guys, I thought about making a new thread to ask this but as so many of you are so knowledgeable here I thought I'd just post.
So 18 days ago I went on holiday to a country which don't allow maintenance. I had a meth script that I couldn't take so decided to just CT on the trip. Bad idea, I know. But--thank god for Immodium--it actually went ok. I hadn't used any opiate (bar lope) for 18 days. So my last dose of meth was 18-19 days ago. The WDS were actually ok, not as bad as I thought. But on return to our lovely country I thought it a good idea to score a bag of low-quality (id guess 15-25%) H. Nowhere near the quality of the stuff I usually get through dn, but still feel that feeling we all love.
My question-will my use of .3 of #3 send me right back to the days of my full blown synthetic meth tolerance. Or will the wds be more manigible. Id like to chip at opiates going forward (please dont judge, its my crutch) at a max of once a week use. Do you think I will be right back where I was when the Meth was coming out my system? Thanks, and sorry for the disjointed text; kinda matches my train of thought about everything right now.
Tbh mate i think if you've had any way a serious addiction and have suffered for it with withdrawals in the past ANY use be it a day or a month is gunna make u have all those feelings back again, if you read up you can see people mentioning 'withdrawal kindling' which is what you will feel if you have had a serious addiction in the past, the reason why ex addicts refuse opiate pain meds for surgery, the withdrawal comes back with a vengeance
Thanks for taking the time to reply mate. FWIW I actually feel relatively ok today and have only had 100mg of codeine, which is what, 10mg morphine? Im trying to keep my use way,way low--as hard as that is! I don't mind, moreso can tolerate, a mild habit and mild withdrawals. Its just when things get out of control shit hits the fan. Back to work tomorrow so wont get a chance to use, will pop a few nurofen plus and codeine if i feel shitty. Once again, appreciate the reply.
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No worries man! sorry i missed it before!
Ahh thats good that you are alright, remember immodium too, that will help, sounds like ur in the same boat as me, I am using like once a week and will use codeine for 2 3 days after then im ok, no suffering, but i've not done a prolonged break in AGES so i dunno if im just about covering base to base with codeine and avoiding the wds, either way, I enjoy my weekly smoke and I dont plan on stopping as long as I can keep to this regimen
Ahh thats good that you are alright, remember immodium too, that will help, sounds like ur in the same boat as me, I am using like once a week and will use codeine for 2 3 days after then im ok, no suffering, but i've not done a prolonged break in AGES so i dunno if im just about covering base to base with codeine and avoiding the wds, either way, I enjoy my weekly smoke and I dont plan on stopping as long as I can keep to this regimen
No problem at all bud it wasn't you that annoyed me. It just pissed me off that I posted a question about methadone & replasing, and then maybe a couple of posts down a very similar discussion ensured and posters didn't even bother to acknowledge the question that I had asked...it just kinda struck me as a bit rude.
Maybe my hormones are just playing up due to the changes in brain-chemistry I am experienceing atm
Immodium was a fucking godsend for me. As I said I CT'd off 30ml of Methadone on holiday and thanks to Immodium I would put the intensity of the withdrawals at a 2-3/10...Usually they would be an 8-9. Can't believe more people dont know just how good Lope is for WD's. True miracle worker. And I didnt even take that much, no mega-doses. I think at the worst of the withdrawals,days 6-10. I would be taking maybe 6 X 2Mg, Which is just double the theraputic dose for the shits,lol. Go Immodium
Maybe my hormones are just playing up due to the changes in brain-chemistry I am experienceing atm
Immodium was a fucking godsend for me. As I said I CT'd off 30ml of Methadone on holiday and thanks to Immodium I would put the intensity of the withdrawals at a 2-3/10...Usually they would be an 8-9. Can't believe more people dont know just how good Lope is for WD's. True miracle worker. And I didnt even take that much, no mega-doses. I think at the worst of the withdrawals,days 6-10. I would be taking maybe 6 X 2Mg, Which is just double the theraputic dose for the shits,lol. Go Immodium
kkattastic
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No problem at all bud it wasn't you that annoyed me. It just pissed me off that I posted a question about methadone & replasing, and then maybe a couple of posts down a very similar discussion ensured and posters didn't even bother to acknowledge the question that I had asked...it just kinda struck me as a bit rude.
Maybe my hormones are just playing up due to the changes in brain-chemistry I am experienceing atm
Immodium was a fucking godsend for me. As I said I CT'd off 30ml of Methadone on holiday and thanks to Immodium I would put the intensity of the withdrawals at a 2-3/10...Usually they would be an 8-9. Can't believe more people dont know just how good Lope is for WD's. True miracle worker. And I didnt even take that much, no mega-doses. I think at the worst of the withdrawals,days 6-10. I would be taking maybe 6 X 2Mg, Which is just double the theraputic dose for the shits,lol. Go Immodium
Don't know where you went on holiday,but when I went to the canaries,I took a 500ml bottle of meth but only used a small amount and that was probably just from fear.The hot,sunny laying by the pool with the occasional dip seemed to make me so much more comfortable
F.U.B.A.R.
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No problem at all bud it wasn't you that annoyed me. It just pissed me off that I posted a question about methadone & replasing, and then maybe a couple of posts down a very similar discussion ensured and posters didn't even bother to acknowledge the question that I had asked...it just kinda struck me as a bit rude.
Maybe my hormones are just playing up due to the changes in brain-chemistry I am experienceing atm
Immodium was a fucking godsend for me. As I said I CT'd off 30ml of Methadone on holiday and thanks to Immodium I would put the intensity of the withdrawals at a 2-3/10...Usually they would be an 8-9. Can't believe more people dont know just how good Lope is for WD's. True miracle worker. And I didnt even take that much, no mega-doses. I think at the worst of the withdrawals,days 6-10. I would be taking maybe 6 X 2Mg, Which is just double the theraputic dose for the shits,lol. Go Immodium
Me,Me,Me, junkie mentality. Your question has been answered many times in this and other threads. Dont wanna be a cunt, but just listen to yourself and take heed...