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EADD Herbal highs - HBWR, Salvia, etc

foolsgold

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Pagey said:
I'm not sure where to ask this but should kinda fit in here - has anyone ever tried Argyreia Nervosa ('hawaiian baby woodrose')? Just read a blog saying it's the best legal psych around and I'm kinda curious.
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baby woodrose are great for the first few times but your body will soon react badly at the thought of just taking them well mine did . the high is more in line with a low dose of mdma than lsd i found but around £2 a pack of 10 seeds they really are worth trying :)
 
Tryptamite said:
2fma is a smooth clean functional stimulant with very little comedown.

I wouldn't bother injecting it. It is similar to meth in some ways but I have very little experience with meth. I did plug it and it came on faster and was more recreational than oral which I find is brilliant for working.

Don't expect it to rival coke although it does remind me of a long lasting low dose cocaine buzz in many ways.
I wouldn't push the dosage too high either. I didn't weigh it, just made bombs. I'd say 20mg to start with, and maybe up to 50mgs after a few days as tolerance begins to set in.

It really is a great stim. Don't bother with 4fma.
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Thanks :) I've ruled out 4-FMA but I can't decide between the other two haha...I'll probably just end up clicking on one at random and try the other one out at some later point or something. They both sound nice.

Mailmonkey said:
4-fa is nice(ish)... a bit dull on its own, but it is supernice (nastaaay) with pirate.
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Yeah that's the thing, so far it seems like 4-FA and 2-FMA are 'nice' but not much more which is a bit meh...I don't have any access to meph. The only stim I have easy access to is coke but the whole point is to try and find something instead of that haha.

foolsgold said:
baby woodrose are great for the first few times but your body will soon react badly at the thought of just taking them well mine did . the high is more in line with a low dose of mdma than lsd i found but around £2 a pack of 10 seeds they really are worth trying :)
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Yeah, I mean it doesn't sound mindblowing but at that price should be worth a shot!
 
Pagey said:
Yeah, I mean it doesn't sound mindblowing but at that price should be worth a shot!
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HBW seeds for me were truly horrific. They made me so nauseous I spent the second half of the trip puking. The first half wasn't too bad, but thinking of the sickness it induced I would never do them again.

If you have access to acid or rc psychs you really have no need to go down this route. I imagine they are very hard on the body. Try some 4 aco dmt. Sounds delicious :)
 
^ yes, the nausea is horrible, Shambles assures us you just need to scrape off the skin but I found that next to impossible and had a fair old puke. Did feel like it would be very nice without the nausea, though. There must be a technique.

4-aco-dmt is definitely a safer bet, and it's a proper psychedelic.
 
your meant to heat the seed with a lighter to remove the sulphurous fluff but you will find leaving it on gives you a much more colourful trip the visual side of it is greatly altered when you remove the outer coating of the seeds

foolsgold said:
baby woodrose are great for the first few times but your body will soon react badly at the thought of just taking them well mine did . the high is more in line with a low dose of mdma than lsd i found but around £2 a pack of 10 seeds they really are worth trying
pagey said:
Yeah, I mean it doesn't sound mindblowing but at that price should be worth a shot!
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it can be very spiritual ive seen seth and other oldie under world gods of the Egyptian miffs out of the corner of my eye also watch it at the end of the trip when you become very sedated your breathing can become very laboured and freaky but a benzo solves that
 
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foolsgold said:
your meant to heat the seed with a lighter to remove the sulphurous fluff but you will find leaving it on gives you a much more colourful trip the visual side of it is greatly altered when you remove the outer coating of the seeds
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I tried burning the fluff off over a gas hob but I mustn't have done it right *puke*
 
HBWR & MG seeds both made me sick & I mean really ill, the best bet in this line of things is Yopo seeds but they are equal to 2-CB when sniffed for pain to the nose.

Once again 4AcO DMT pop's up in earlier posts, that's a seriously strong chemical & imo should be shown total respect. Though people say it's like shrooms I found it should be classified separate, I agree with the poster in PD called morning glory seed in the thread for this chem.

Of course there is yage too which I want to before I die.
 
Mailmonkey said:
Its a piece of piss.
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For a 14-step process yes it is in fact very simple. My eye picks up on things like "distilled water" and "14" and I immediately think "can't be arsed".

But it's not that hard really is it? I'll give it a go some time.
 
knock said:
For a 14-step process yes it is in fact very simple. My eye picks up on things like "distilled water" and "14" and I immediately think "can't be arsed".

But it's not that hard really is it? I'll give it a go some time.
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That process is just like a long stewed tea you drink or evaporate to a gunk.

One poster there talks about soaking it in a galllon of water and drinking it with a friend. A fucking gallon?

As SproutonSmack says, a dmt type extraction would get you the real goodies.
 
wow im starting threads without knowing now think its time to quit lol :) really though the puking is all part of the trip its like purging your self you will notice the difference the ones i chuck up on are the best did 40 seeds 3 years ago for my birthday and chucked about 15 minutes in thought i had poisoned my self and was dying at first but once i was sick that was it just a beautiful chilled out day :)
 
Hmmmm, after I puked a couple of times I still wanted to puke for a few hours :|

Maybe I should have puked harder?
 
This is BL, I'm not writing entheogen.

It may deserve it's own classification (I agree it is a more "deeply" psychoactive substance) but these things are so seldom mentioned here that I don't think it does deserve it's own thread. Talk about them/it more and your wish will be granted.

Anyway, it's a plant, so "herbal", with psychoactive effects, so "high".

But if you can come up with something better let me know :D We do listen ;)

I suppose if enough people want to talk about "entheogens" or whatever then that can be accommodated, but I've yet to see any demand.
 
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the vasoconstriction was not a problem till it came time to sleep with me as for salvia i found that to be dangerous almost like killing myself to get high abit like those people who hang themselves while wanking just not worth it .

and knock it could be just your body's way of saying this is a poison do not do it , me i get sick now at the idea of taking them i have most definitely had my fun with them my body just refuses to let me think of taking them now .

also if you use them alot the taste seems to come out in your skin nails and the likes i mean 2 weeks later and i would bite my nails then i could taste them which would just make my guts churn

p.s its mushy time so why bother when the is a field just waiting to expand your mind for you :)
 
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