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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

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If you dropped these in reception this morning, they're mine now.
 
I had some hash, bud and 1.5 galenikan rivotrils so alleged 3 mg of clonazepam. When I got home, I took shrimp salad, cucumber and hash bag and put em on fridge. Hour later I was in distress trying to figure out what happened. Luckily found some random bud bag I had forgot and settled with that. Today I started cleaning to find the hash, gave up and moved on to breakfast-and found the damn brown.
 
Tranced said:
Were the ksalol xanax 2mg a year or two back, or have I made that up?
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Only ever seen 1mg tablets I think. Maybe 2mg ones where I go. But always "sold out" but can't remember. Usually just get 1mg of I'm after them
 
Tranced said:
Think I had slightly snidey bensendin today.
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What gave it away? I saw on wedinos that there were some with bromazolam. Mine seem to be OK but the text on the strips is dark blue instead of black now. Last time they rebranded, I got a load of fakes (they used to have a red triangle and then changed design, loads of bromaz with the old strips got into supply).

I thought they were bunk and sent them for testing, they were bromaz. Chalky and slight bitterness but very slight. The ones I've had of late all have the "valium taste" but I wanna know what the snide ones look like/taste like in case I end up with some. The dodgy ones I got were probs a year ago now. Still have the wedinos result.

Anyway can you expand on this please pal?
 
pharaoh said:
What gave it away? I saw on wedinos that there were some with bromazolam. Mine seem to be OK but the text on the strips is dark blue instead of black now. Last time they rebranded, I got a load of fakes (they used to have a red triangle and then changed design, loads of bromaz with the old strips got into supply).

I thought they were bunk and sent them for testing, they were bromaz. Chalky and slight bitterness but very slight. The ones I've had of late all have the "valium taste" but I wanna know what the snide ones look like/taste like in case I end up with some. The dodgy ones I got were probs a year ago now. Still have the wedinos result.

Anyway can you expand on this please pal?
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Seemed like a lesser benzo.

I habe a piece left for wedinos. Will take photos of the packets too. X
 
What's a good alternative to diazepam? I use steady but I think that there are snide ones going around so I'd like something that works roughly the same and wouldn't mess with tolerance etc. I'm thinking etizolam but I don't have a source. I get mine from the same place and always bensedin but there seem to be dodgy ones. Mine are OK at the moment but I think I should have a back up plan. I sometimes use alprazolam but it's too easy to lose it with that stuff. I don't use these for fun, they are medication. A lot of the fakes seem to have bromazolam which I had (without knowing - thought I had chalk pills but had them tested, back the last time loads of snide bensedin were going around after the rebrand) but I think it's chemically closer to alpraz/xanax which as I say gets me too fucked up.
 
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That's half the Crimbo shopping done. Just need to wait until my ganjaman is back in the UK next week to finish.

The Ksalol 1mg alprazolams are footballs like the 10mg diazepam prodes where as the Kern 2mg Alprazolam jobs are white round tablets. Galenika does not produce a 2mg alprazolam product, just 0.25 + 1mg efforts.
 
pharaoh said:
What's a good alternative to diazepam? I use steady but I think that there are snide ones going around so I'd like something that works roughly the same and wouldn't mess with tolerance etc. I'm thinking etizolam but I don't have a source. I get mine from the same place and always bensedin but there seem to be dodgy ones. Mine are OK at the moment but I think I should have a back up plan. I sometimes use alprazolam but it's too easy to lose it with that stuff. I don't use these for fun, they are medication. A lot of the fakes seem to have bromazolam which I had (without knowing - thought I had chalk pills but had them tested, back the last time loads of snide bensedin were going around after the rebrand) but I think it's chemically closer to alpraz/xanax which as I say gets me too fucked up.
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Clonazepam or chlordiazepoxide are the 2 closest to diazepam with respect to effect and DOA but both have a slower onset. If you have access to RC BZD's still you could look at chlorodiazepam (diclazepam) as it is a direct analogue of the OG. Slow onset again but its x10 the potency (1mg diclazepam = 10mg diazepam).
 
Got some street valium in Glasgow last night, just to see what was on offer /open air market around central station). Some badly pressed yellows with the cdc/score on the front. Sweet taste, guessing bromaz. Will actually send one of these for testing. Latest order of bensedin are genuine.
 
pharaoh said:
Got some street valium in Glasgow last night, just to see what was on offer /open air market around central station). Some badly pressed yellows with the cdc/score on the front. Sweet taste, guessing bromaz. Will actually send one of these for testing. Latest order of bensedin are genuine.
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Despite the bad pressing, the fact that the counterfeiters are dyeing them yellow shows the continued evolution in their deception methodology as until recently I am sure that few would question a 5mg generic UK or 'Valium' branded tablet. Its such a shame that the Bensedin cannot be trusted now either - over the last 7 years or so my Serbian products have come directly from a Belgrade based pharmacist who, thanks to the lack of domestic oversight uses his licensed access to purchase Rx only medicines to sell on. For the last 18 months or so, when I have ordered diazepam from him he has sent the unbranded Hemofarm 10mg product instead of the Bensedin, despite continuing to supply the Galenika Rivotril clonazepam 2mg and Ksalol alprazolam 1mg. I still think that the Hemofarm diazepam come from the same domestic manufacturer as the Bensedin as the tablets are identical (white, bevelled with convex top and bottom)
 
steewith2ees said:
Despite the bad pressing, the fact that the counterfeiters are dyeing them yellow shows the continued evolution in their deception methodology as until recently I am sure that few would question a 5mg generic UK or 'Valium' branded tablet. Its such a shame that the Bensedin cannot be trusted now either - over the last 7 years or so my Serbian products have come directly from a Belgrade based pharmacist who, thanks to the lack of domestic oversight uses his licensed access to purchase Rx only medicines to sell on. For the last 18 months or so, when I have ordered diazepam from him he has sent the unbranded Hemofarm 10mg product instead of the Bensedin, despite continuing to supply the Galenika Rivotril clonazepam 2mg and Ksalol alprazolam 1mg. I still think that the Hemofarm diazepam come from the same domestic manufacturer as the Bensedin as the tablets are identical (white, bevelled with convex top and bottom)
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I wonder does that mean A) they no longer are producing the Bensedin and all these snide copies are complete fakes. Or B) he realises the lab is making bunk product and doesn't want to put people off buying product from him. It's a tough one to say. Given there are two different designs on strips of Bensedin i'd say there's more than one place manufacturing them. Even the ones that test as Diazepam i wasn't fond of. They just felt rather cold and clinical without any kind of glow about them. And seemed to go straight to blackout in a hurry at not the highest doses.

Compared to say the Martin Dows even the Bensedin that test as Diaz are much cheaper in bulk. Like £2 a box cheaper. Maybe just impure batches of Diazepam to start with? Depspite the Loughmans Iranian Diazepam strips looking like they were made by a child, i've heard they are better than the Bensedin too.
 
Any thoughts on what benzo is best for tapering off? I use diazepam and generally was on about 30mg a day (if you trust bensedin's dosing). Due to stress and whatnot, I've started using more. I can get back down to 30mg a day I think but I don't trust bensedin at the moment - most of mine have seemed right but every time the packaging changes, you suddenly see bromazepam turning up in them. I have ordered clonazepam before and I believe that these are generally trustworthy as they don't seem popular enough to fake and the ones I had were real, I just can't remember the effects much due to being on a cocktail. I take nothing now except for my valium. Kpins have a longer onset and if this translates to half-life, could it be effective? Say tapering down to 30mg of valium and then switching to to clonazepam a day and then halving the dose, then quartering? Just a thought - I'll look into it more. I will try and tell the doctor but I don't have any faith in them prescribing in order to taper off even though they know I'm taking my recovery seriously.
 
Personally I'd stick wth the diazepam. i like to keep some clonazepam handy for emergencies. It definitely hits harder and has legs.
 
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