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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

SpiralusSancti said:
It was just a tiny amount, like a few mg, but had pretty much 0 opiod tolerance so that too worked. But I really didn’t feel any sting or anything, if I had snorted 30mg idk maybe than it would hurt. I’m pretty sure it was HCl, got it as a gift from a person I trusted and was said it’s fine for snorting and it really was.
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I also found methadone hydrochloride not especially nasty to snort. No worse than oxycodone hydrochloride, diamorphine hydrochloride or even dextromoramide hydrochloride. I should add that I only snorted 10mg of the latter. Palfium had a pretty bad reputation and having seen people turn blue after swallowing just two or three peaches, I was most careful.

I'm still wondering if someone had extracted methadone freebase. That most certainly ISN'T water-soluble and I can only imagine would be agony. It would be quite basic and so fairly caustic. I guess most people would expect a freebase to be a liquid, but anything with a high MW will be a solid with a low-ish melting point.

I've seen the idea of taking x2-x4 the dose needed to service physical dependence and drop to nothing applied to opioids, but not benzodiazepines. It CAN work, but I don't think it's a reliable trick.
 
I guess benzos will be more soluble in the lower alcohols than in water. I presume by alcohol you mean ethanol? What do you use, Polish spirit (80% ethanol), Everclear (95% ethanol) or actual absolute ethanol (obviously 100% alcohol). You SHOULD be able to dissolve the alprazolam in ethanol and still filter out the excipients of the pill.

I'm sure I don't need to explain the risks that surround IVing pills. Blood clots are bad enough but if they detach and enter the circulatory system, aneurysms, heart attacks and many other fatal cardiovascular events can take place.

Is their any benefit in injecting them? I don't think it alters bioavailability much. Obviously onset is much faster..
 
They are worth injecting at first. Anything 70%+ will do 0.2-0.3 ml. At first they smack, you can get nods with 3, and they even lower anxiety but Ive injected over 500+ so far so it has basically no benefits anymore just to inject something yknow.
 
Yeah, I eat 95+ %. Maybe once or twice a week I inject a few, total waste, just to inject. My ex has injected hmm maybe 3-5 thousand, without filtering of course, and she has needed antibiotics twice in the last year alone. She eats atleast nowadays most of them but still injects some just to inject.
 
I do appreciate that some people are more addicted to the needle than to the drug. Years ago a BLer was telling me about their compulsive IVing of a first-generation antihistamine. I asked why and even they couldn't explain why they were doing so.

Of course cyclizine used to be IVed by people on methadone maintenance. I don't think any studies have ever taken place to know just why cyclizine interacts with methadone but in the 1980s it was known that people would compulsively IV the stuff - but it's recognized that some kind of interaction occurs.
 
schizopath said:
Those ksalols legit. You can still inject them but if you filter them they dont work iv. Really weird...
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I really feel obliged to agree with @AlsoTapered and say injecting unfiltered pill matter is really really bad. It's not just risky, it's 100% damaging your veins, lungs, heart, brain, everything really. All the pill binders are going to settle in your body and wreak havoc, mate.
Please eat the pills and inject something else. Or use stronger alcohol or propylene glycol and filter them properly.
Didn't you say you take speed? Insect that after you filter it or just water if you must inject something, just not unfiltered pills. No judgements, but it's really harmful.
 
Yeah, I inject those useless to inject pills cause I dont wanna inject or anyhow use speed. Shit gets too loopy and its useless to use that shit nowadays. 9 years ago it was too much even first time.

I know injecting pills is a slow suicide, thats what Im on methadone + other stuff for :)
 


Their isn't a lot of good information on injecting pills - but EVEN if you filter pills, it's really bad news. All I can tell you is that I knew 8 people who would, on occasion, inject pills. Sadly, they are all dead. The last one keeled over in the street when a blood clot moved to his brain,

It's not so much slow suicide - more like Russian roulette.
 
So pissed off one of my mates was supposed to be sorting me weed like 2 days ago. Well at the same time he also got a reload of clonazepam. Said he was going easy on them but woke up to several fucked up voice messages this morning, obviously completely off his trolley.

I love the effect of benzos. Probably because i have social anxiety from abusing weed too much over the years. At this point however i have to concede they do nobody i know who isn't prescribed them any good whatsoever.
 
elgoucho9 said:
So pissed off one of my mates was supposed to be sorting me weed like 2 days ago. Well at the same time he also got a reload of clonazepam. Said he was going easy on them but woke up to several fucked up voice messages this morning, obviously completely off his trolley.

I love the effect of benzos. Probably because i have social anxiety from abusing weed too much over the years. At this point however i have to concede they do nobody i know who isn't prescribed them any good whatsoever.
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Yeah - I've been scripted them for around 20 years for myoclonus. I learnt early on to take them WHEN symptoms present. Don't just take them every day or:

1)They stop working
2)You now have a benzo habit AND refractive epilepsy.
 
Yeah out of all the drugs I've used/abused benzos are the most dangerous. Decision making process being so heavily impaired you become a danger to yourself. Then also like you say potential panic attacks/seizures from addiction. And the long half life, thinking your sober when your really fucked up, very dangerous drug when abused. Life savers for people who use them appropiately as needed.

Also i've said this before, but just to reiterate what @AlsoTapered is saying, @schizopath shooting those ksols is proper risky behavior man. It's your life but just be careful, wedinos tests showing other drugs and even benzocaine in them. Galenika brand in general has been going downhill for a year or so imo. Risky enough shooting tablets but i'd also be weary what's even in them.
 
BTW I was sent some methaqualone from a friend in South Africa. Only a gram, but I tell you, benzos are nothing compared to methaqualone, secobarbital and clomethiazole - those three are killers.
 
AlsoTapered said:
BTW I was sent some methaqualone from a friend in South Africa. Only a gram, but I tell you, benzos are nothing compared to methaqualone, secobarbital and clomethiazole - those three are killers.
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From my limited knowledge those aee Qualudes and Madrax? I'd always assumed qualudes would be euphoric at least. Although that's based on nothing more than watching scenes from The Wolf of Wall Street.
 
Oh - the effects are quite spectacular. Imagine MDMA mixed with valium - that's what methaqualone felt like to me.
 
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