AlsoTapered
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OT - a friend obtained some Telazol (tiletamine + zolazepam). He separated the two and gave me a jiffy-bag half-full of zolazepam (about 9 grams). Now, the papers state that it's around x4 the potency of diazepam but is so water-soluble. So I snorted a tiny bump. Woke an hour later; confused. So I took a fraction of my first dose to see if it were possible to find a recreational range. Woke up 30 minutes later, totally lost.
He had come down from his tiletamine trip enough to whisper in my ear 'so now you see why I give it away'.
I did eventually discover that 50mg in 2L of lemonade worked as long as you treated the solution as on would treat straight vodka on an empty stomach. You drink a little knowing that it will hit you in a few minutes. But it's duration means that you have to find and maintain a level appropriate to your needs.
Just imagine how dangerous that stuff would be on the streets. It's metabolised so fast that blood, urine and even hair samples would struggle to find it. The onset it so sudden that you had better lying down because you slump, you would surely fall out of a chair. It's essentially just a general anesthetic, or was to me, my friend and the few others he had offered it to... free.
And finally - that potency and that duration means that it's likely to produce tolerance and dependence very quickly indeed, Like 'Thomas K. Highsmith' the former Morton Thiokol chemist who, in the early 1980s was making etonitazene (not a weaker homologue) at work. He began using it parenterally so it was 1500 x morphine in potency (orally it's 'only' x60 morphine).
Colleagues noted that he had taken to carrying around one of those refillable nasal sprays and was 'clearing his nose' ever 10 to 20 minutes. He was caught because he asked the janitor if he knew of anyone who could sell such a product... and said janitor told the management who called the police.
So Thomas was arrested, charged, bailed and provided with methadone. He topped himself 10 days after being caught because no methadone dosage compatible with human life had the slightest effect on his acute withdrawals. I can imagine zolazepam doing the same. Imagine having to redose every hour. OK at night you could take a lot (thus increasing tolerance and dependence) but once dependant, your very life is likely to end if you stop.
Sorry to OT but I thought it an interesting story. In Canada carfentanil (x10000 morphine) is now replacing fentanyl (x80 morphine) and soon it's certain to be the drug of choice for clandestine chemists ($$$$) and users (duration is double that of fentanyl). But it's a one way street.
He had come down from his tiletamine trip enough to whisper in my ear 'so now you see why I give it away'.
I did eventually discover that 50mg in 2L of lemonade worked as long as you treated the solution as on would treat straight vodka on an empty stomach. You drink a little knowing that it will hit you in a few minutes. But it's duration means that you have to find and maintain a level appropriate to your needs.
Just imagine how dangerous that stuff would be on the streets. It's metabolised so fast that blood, urine and even hair samples would struggle to find it. The onset it so sudden that you had better lying down because you slump, you would surely fall out of a chair. It's essentially just a general anesthetic, or was to me, my friend and the few others he had offered it to... free.
And finally - that potency and that duration means that it's likely to produce tolerance and dependence very quickly indeed, Like 'Thomas K. Highsmith' the former Morton Thiokol chemist who, in the early 1980s was making etonitazene (not a weaker homologue) at work. He began using it parenterally so it was 1500 x morphine in potency (orally it's 'only' x60 morphine).
Colleagues noted that he had taken to carrying around one of those refillable nasal sprays and was 'clearing his nose' ever 10 to 20 minutes. He was caught because he asked the janitor if he knew of anyone who could sell such a product... and said janitor told the management who called the police.
So Thomas was arrested, charged, bailed and provided with methadone. He topped himself 10 days after being caught because no methadone dosage compatible with human life had the slightest effect on his acute withdrawals. I can imagine zolazepam doing the same. Imagine having to redose every hour. OK at night you could take a lot (thus increasing tolerance and dependence) but once dependant, your very life is likely to end if you stop.
Sorry to OT but I thought it an interesting story. In Canada carfentanil (x10000 morphine) is now replacing fentanyl (x80 morphine) and soon it's certain to be the drug of choice for clandestine chemists ($$$$) and users (duration is double that of fentanyl). But it's a one way street.
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r 9 grams). Now, the papers state that it's around x4 the potency of diazepam but is so water-soluble. So I snorted a tiny bump. Woke an hour later; confused. So I took a fraction of my first dose to see if it were possible to find a recreational range. Woke up 30 minutes later, totally lost.
