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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

Scored some Mazzies, managed to get through 10x30mg in a night. I'm pretty sure my alc tolerance is fucking with my benzo buzz

I have 20 left so I'll try and use those more productively
 
Plus I'm sure the missing Nitraz is not in my attic, I had a good look around with a phone torch (fell over on the way down the ladders)
 
Definitely benzodiazepines, though possibly underdosed
I managed to get through the temaz too
Maybe its alcohol+benzo cross tolerance
 
GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
Maybe its alcohol+benzo cross tolerance
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I don't know too much about that tbh, but I think it's unlikley. Although both substances act on GABA, and benzos can be used for acute alcohol w/ds for severe alcoholics, so they must at least partially hit the same receptors in the same way.

I've never really seen any accounts of cross tolerance that I can recall though. My personal experience is that during 3-4 months of furlough I cut down my benzo use massively and reset my tolerance in the process.

I was drinking heavily in the evenings during that period though, but that did not raise my benzo tolerance. Quite the opposite as I mentioned, I virtually reset my benzo tolerance back to zero, IIRC. Although the drink may have acted as as a subsitute and made it easier to reduce the benzos during that period..

When furlough ended I was able to go back to work feeling comfortable on a much lower dose of bzs. And the heavy drinking stopped or reduced then too.

It seems to me that it's probably quite a complicated relationship between the 2 things and how they cross over and affect GABA in the brain.

And not something that I have the motivation or energy to try to look into understand further, at this stage tbh. I rarely drink these days so it's not going to be an issue for me any time soon.
 
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Just had a browse on wedinos.

Most Bensedin seem to be Diaz only result (quality or dose not established) but a recent result for Ethylbromazepam?
new one to me there.

Bromazolam in every corner of the benzo world it seems.

Stay safe people.
 
I have got really good galenika rivotril lately. Strong taste, strong effect.

Clonotrils have been found to be significantly overdosed by finnish harm reduction organisations, but they apparently have mostly clonazepam. They ain't legit pharma or anything as I predicted, they became so commonplace that I don't know how it could be possible even.
 
I have got really good galenika rivotril lately. Strong taste, strong effect.

Good, at least you know what you are consuming, thing is if they are indeed knock off there will be weak pills in every batch.

Go easy and stay in one piece. x.
 
Hello people.

I've just been having a browse of wedinos, this ETHYLBROMAZOLAM has now found it's way into most benzos.

I've no idea on this substance but it's all over the place and not what I want to be purchasing.

Just a heads up really.

Take care.
 
Wow an analogue of an analogue. ETHYLBROMAZOLAM derived from BROMAZOLAM which in turn is derived frrom Alprazolam. I know most regulars on this thread will know that, but some of the lurkers etc might not:confused:

Obviously no one wants to be receiving knock off benzos, but at least at first Bromozolam was at least usable, although definitely not a great benzo. The last batch of 'clonazepam' I had tested turned out to be bromozolam, and it left me feeling really fuzzy headed, and not in a good way at all.

Chances are the effects aren't going to be great from this new arrival.

The situation is turning dire and I've now had bad experiences with all but one vendor.

The latest one does have a rep for sending genuine stuff, but my latest order was one blister short. They just said that the dispatch team said it was correct, and they are blanking my counter reply, that they have made a mistake, and my attempt to demonstrate how easily it could have happened. (Or possibly it was a conscious and deliberate thing, although of course I didn't say that to them.)

I've already previously had a slight issue with them which was resolved in my favour. Maybe they are now pissed off with me because of that, and I dont want to piss them off too much further over this one blister, or they might start outright completely scamming me in future, and I wouldnt want to loose a relationship with one of the very few remaining decent vendors. :roll eyes: In terms of the authenticity of their stock at least.:cautious:

Another vendor wanted a photo of your driving licence to register on their site!!!:sus::sus::sus::sus::sus::sus::sus::sus::sus::sus::sus::sus::sus: :sarcasm:

How dumb do they think people are? :! Who in their right mind is going to provide such details in such a scenario? :?They are either an undercover police sting operation, or just the vendor wants to harvest all this valuable info, probably to sell it on, on the dark web or something. I can't think of any innocent reason that they would require such information.

How fucking dodgy do things have to get? :|
 
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I've now switched my benzo adventures from Clonaz to Loraz, because I can no longer trust the authenticity of clonaz from any of my vendors. I can, however, trust the Loraz so have switched to that for the time being. It's not as nice as the real clonaz was (to me) but I prefer it to real Alprazolam
 
Ever wondered why most benzos dont really work insufflated (they only really work via the nasal drip that makes its way to the stomach in time) but many people swear by their sublingual effectiveness?

Well this could be the answer, if so

Benzodiazepines, including diazepam, are generally lipophilic (fat-soluble) and not highly water-soluble. Sublingual administration works well because the drug can dissolve in the lipid-rich environment under the tongue, where it is absorbed directly into the bloodstream through the mucous membranes. This bypasses the gastrointestinal system and liver metabolism, leading to quicker onset.

In contrast, the nasal passages rely on water-soluble drugs for effective absorption. Since diazepam and other benzos are poorly soluble in water, they do not dissolve well in the mucus lining the nasal cavity, leading to low absorption and ineffective delivery.

The nasal passages are lined with a mucus layer that is primarily composed of water. Since lipid-soluble compounds are poorly soluble in water, they may have difficulty dissolving in the nasal mucus. If a drug can't dissolve well in the mucus, it cannot be absorbed efficiently through the nasal epithelium into the bloodstream.

So essentially the mucus membranes, and the blood that is supplied to them, have different characteristics to one another. (Source, a "Reddit Drug Nerd")

I think this is some amazing info, if it's true, but personally I'm not yet convinced about the the s/l ROA, as I know the bioavailability for oral consumption is like 98% or something like that for etizolam etc, and that has got to be hard to beat.

I understand the appeal of the quick onset, especially if you already have a full stomach, but just trialling 1/4 of a crushed s/l clon now and several minutes in and not yet feeling it. (Edit: 25 minutes later and I'm only just starting to feel it slighty, But I had built up such a massive pool of saliva that I had to swalllow it eventually anyway :sarcasm: Further trials may be required.)

The jury is still out as far as I am concerned.
 
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I've now tried crushing the pills and using sublingual dosing with diaz, clonaz, and nitraz (Not all at once! On separate occasions...)

It has seemed to work well for diaz, 10mg doses have kicked in pleasantly and noticeably after 25 minutes or so. Weirdly 10mg of Nitraz did not work well at all, for some unknown reason. I barely felt it. I would still have felt the definiate kick of a 10mg oral dose, although it isn't as powerful as it was when I was using it less often. (I must really try to only use Nitraz as occasionally as possible, the kick is so much stronger and nicer that way. If that's your thing. Regarding the clonaz, I'm still not sure, I suspect 1/4s and 1/2 pills arent going to be enough for a fair trial considering my daily tolerance is at 2mg.)
 
about fake clonaz, i've just bought from one of clearnet vendor site (quite popular i think) and it came branded as Clonazepam Novumgen 2mg and they are real deal
 
Well folks I don't know whether I've been lucky or things may be looking up with the bensedin diazepam.

I noticed my most recent batch were of a higher quality right from the box..envelope.

Much better quality blister packaging, firmer strip with a solid push through, no flashing around the edge of the pill, even shape both sides and quality press, and a slight shine, the serial numbers were the same along with the expiry date, only well punched and each set of digits aligned perfectly, comparing them to the ones I had that had tested as diaz only was like night and day, I've no idea on the dose of the copies and therefore my tolerance!!

I had to try them and no surprise 20mg was like the first time again, compared to the usual one's, felt great within and had the energy to rip seven old fence panels out of the garden, went in had a brew and relaxed listening to music for the first time in over a year.

I must have just got used to the ropey ones but I always felt as though I was on a knife edge of withdrawals with these but I I relied on them for the clear tests, it's a shame I can't send some for dose analysis.

Anyway, I've no idea what my actual tolerance is but I'm mixing both good/OK at the moment so not good for the tolerance, I'm thinking of putting the good ones to the back of the queue, only I can't taper on the copies I don't think, I can't attempt a taper at this point in time or until 6 months minimum due to working commitments.

Could the copies just be 10mg of poorly made diazepam? or most probably random dose.

Could be a sign things are looking up, i dreaded what would unfold with this nitazenes shit this year.

Just a heads up.
Take care x
 
Hello BL! Anyone tried Klozaps-2 clonazepam? I know the bensendin and martin dows have been off recently.

They taste minty but off. Sweet too.
 
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