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EADD Benzo Discussion V. I forget

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Dark Side said:
I start tomorrow at 9am, killer.
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well done for landing the job, you will probably adjust soon enough to having to get up earlier than what you may be used to. I used to hate having to do occasional 7am starts, if it was permanent 7 am starts i could have adjusted to it, but it would be random days a couple of times a week. Still, its a small price to pay in order to get a job, it just means going to bed earlier in the evenings. It was struggling with the early starts and having to do a highly detailed and sometimes quite complicated report first thing in the morning, when i was barely conscious that lead to a lot of the stress and conflict problems i had with one of my managers in my last place of work.
 
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yeh congratz on landing the job dark side, definitely will help give you some routine in life and hopefully in turn kick ur habit in the future, i hate benzos and what they have done to me, fucking with my sleep being the main issue :(
 
mydrugbuddy said:
i dont know if ive been given a duff batch of etiz or ifts the kratom, but my latest mix doesnt seem to have any kick or bite to it. It may well just be kratom and its adrenagerc properties but its too much for etiz to over ride. I am not feeling any benzo w/d type things so there must be some etiz in it. I just have some doubts about it. I wish the main UK supplier would sort their etiz powder stocks out, that way i could at least have 2 sources for comparison purposes. The vendor i got my etiz from has never let me down, maybe it is just that kratom is too much for it. I find this very strange seeing that etiz can counteract even things like MDPV but it does fuck all for kratom induced insomnia.
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same here. think its probably the same vendor, have got a new batch of pills from said vendor (no names or anything) hoping these are better, though i think its just the fact i have smashed etizolam and clonazepam over the last 4 month i feel fuck all from 4mg of etiz. even 6 just about does me but doesnt have that bite as u said :/
 
i think the lack of bite thing is possibly tolerance related, kratom is having a strong stimulating affect on me, so its back on the diphenhydramine and / or promethazine on top of etizolam and mirtazapine now to get to sleep atm until i stop taking kratom. I cant be sure, but i would imagine if i didnt have a high tolerance to etizolam that it would be enough to counteract the kratom, but for some reason etiz does not 'bring me down' from kratom at all.

Its like it stops it from working, but i dont feel anything that could be benzo w/d, like increased anxiety or paranoia or anything which i might be feeling if the etiz was weak or heavily cut. What am i trying to say ? Kratom seems to be stronger than etizolam.
 
What's that you say? You've got access to bulk quantities of drugs? At great prices? You're completely transparent.
 
I have only ever tried a couple of etizolam pills before 1mg pills and a few of the pink Etizest brand which I thought were quite nice.
I know Mdb has experience with Etizolam powder in the past, do you think I would be better off buying the powder as opposed to the pills?
 
i suppose it is true that acquiring the powder can easily lead to escalating use. It is so much cheaper than the pills though, and for me at the moment as im allready using a high dose of etiz it makes sense to use the powder. Also with etizolam there seem to be so many vendor pressed bunk pills around that the powder is probably a more reliable bet, unless you can be guarenteed branded blister packs i wouldnt touch the non branded vendor presed etizolam pills.
 
Sammy G said:
Pills. Always pills.

The powder usually ends in disaster. In fact, always...
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is there no major saving money wise to be had though by buying powder instead of the pills.
I do seem to be able to control my benzo use, been taking diazepam for couple of years now and never more than 20mg a day and I don't ever get the urge to keep on redosing that a lot of folk mention.
 
I saved some money by using etizolam powder. But then I went and spent it all on court and solicitor fees :| and I fucked up my career change plans. I still use etizolam powder, in solution for liquid dosing, because I've finally learnt what I can handle, and I seem to achieved some discipline about dosing. But that lesson has cost me a lot more than I ever saved by buying powder instead of pills, and the cost has come in various ways, not only financial.

It's tricky, because the price saving is very attractive. But it's quite dangerous stuff. If you're in a very good state mentally, and you are extremely disciplined when it comes to drug taking, then you might get away with it. But if you're in a good state mentally then you probably don't want etizolam. And if you take lots of etizolam, you end up not being in a good state mentally.

I suppose if you have a hardcore tolerance to benzos and lots of experience with them then the powder might be justifiable.
 
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With funds being extremely limited at the moment I do think I would go for the powder.
If I had a history of being unable to control my benzo use when I've had 100s off the pills sat around then I would go for the pills. But even with all those pills around me I never get the urge to take more of them. I can take the one or two pills I want and then I don't even think of dipping into the bag for some more.
So far benzos are the only drug I seem to have been able to exercise any control over.
Most other drugs if I had just sat around would not last very long but usually it was just heroin.
I've never really been one to want to lose control on drugs apart from alcohol in the past.
 
You should also factor the following into your cost/benefit analysis:

Milligram scales if you've not got any already
A 100ml laboratory measuring flask
A bottle of solvent - (Mono-)Propylene Glycol.
A flask with a screw top for storing your solution in.

That's going to be about £40 right there if you're starting from scratch.

I never got into trouble with etizolam pills, I was fine, you take a couple of pills and they're not morish.

But if you have just 1 or 2mg more etizolam than is a desirable dose, your judgement can go out the window, and if you're not doing liquid dosing, you are very liable to have much more etizolam than you need. Even if you are doing liquid dosing, sometimes people do stupid things, especially when pissed.
 
Ah yes, I didn't think about the extras that I would need to enable me to properly sort out liquid doses.
I guess once the equipment has been bought then obviously after that it's just the price of the powder each time I would need to buy more as scales etc would have been purchased first time around.
Will have to look into what real savings can be made if any as obviously it's a lot easier to store pills and take them, it's just the varying quality of pills that puts me off somewhat unless of course I can buy properly branded and blistered pills.
Further investigation needed I think. Thanks for the help and advice though folks, always helps to talk to those who have already done it before.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
what is wrong with a cooking measuring glass jug at a couple of quid. MPG is £5.99 per litre i think. It can be safely stored in old honey pots etc. No need to spend £40 getting set up to use powder.
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A cooking measuring jug isn't very accurate; sure you're unlikely to be doubling your dose by accident or anything but if you think you're taking 6mg and you're actually taking 8mg, one problem is your tolerance is going to go up, not down. I like to be accurate when I'm dealing with chemicals active at 1mg.
 
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