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EADD Benzo Discussion V. I forget

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They're not gonna do much if you're taking diazepam, since they are just one of the many metabolites of diazepam.
 
I've got Valium Amps coming soon can anyone tell me if they can be put in an E-Cig, I was thinking make a soloutin with the Liquid and PG and pour it in, It's for a mate, he wants to vaporise Valium, but I'm not giving him the amps with IV all over them cos hes a bit Naïve, so I need to figure out how to do this before I hand him it, can it be done ? Anybody know ?
 
Yeah they can because benzodiazepines are readily made in freebase form. Except for a few exceptions.

Question is: why? You have an unpredictable bioavailability compared to a 90+ bioavailability from oral and sublingual.
 
He just wants to do it, so I'm just givin the guy what he wants, hes not clued up with all that shit he just does what he wants, personally I swallow pills,

The amps are 10mg/2ml amps,

Each 2 mLampoule contains: Diazepam10 mg

Benzoate buffer 5% m/v
Benzyl alcohol 1,5% v/v
Ethanol 19,2% v/v


So how do I go about making a soloutin to fill an E-Cig tube up ?

[Edit] - I'm new to soloutions and shit I've just been powders and pills all my days.
 
So each ampule has 10 milligrams of diazepam? I'm guessing you're getting them in a box of 10?

It's already a solution made with propylene glycol. The only issue would be that ethanol is not meant to be inhaled. In those miniscule amounts though, I doubt it would cause a problem.
 
I'm not sure at what temperature the benzodiazepine vaporizes, and what temperatures your vaporizer reaches.

My guess though is that it shouldn't be a problem.
 
I guess you pretty much do this with any benzo powder, as well, especially the likes of Pyrazolam that's totally water soluble.

I've seen people do it with Ganja Oil lol
 
Yeah you can. All benzodiazepines are in freebase form.

I know I've already mentioned this but there is no benefit from smoking benzodiazepines over taking them sublingually or orally.

Probably because benzodiazepines dissolve in oil.
 
I agree , but my mate thinks it will be the dogs bollocks being able to take it out with him and smoke it anywhere, I've never IV'ed anything but I wonder what a shot of 10mg Diazepam would feel like compared to a tablet
 
If you asked that question in OD, you would get murdered. Personally, I love IV benzodiazepines but I've only ever had them in a clinical setting. Diazepam and flunitrazpem to be specific. The diazepam in rehabilitation and the flunatrazepam when I was having DT's from GHB withdrawal. The onset is BOOOM and you get relaxed almost instantly. The absolute bioavailability makes the difference.

To IV benzodiazepine tablets you need to dissolve them in a solvent, and then use a wheel filter to remove any binders and fillers. Otherwise you can run into problems, serious ones. You need to make sure you filter them properly.
 
No im talking about proper amps I have access to Diazepam 10mg/2ml, Lorazepam 4mg/2ml and Midazolam 15mg/2ml,

Tempting......

Edit: Pills are for popping , end of ! (Unless were talking about CWE's n shit, that's different.
 
For those you have to look up the ingredients and find out if you can filter anything that could be potentially dangerous. It's risky business even if you do your homework.
 
I'm confused, you didn't just say that for no reason did you brimz? Have I missed something, cus you certainly do have lots and lots of experience but why have you stated that you have?

P.s according to the snr mod benzos aren't recreational.
 
Just cos i saw all these BD Mods & Benzoman Giving it large about stuff .

I got the script 2 Back my shit up n 20 years of scripts including nuff ting & i lived in Portugal where i was buying benzo's like sweets. I have had all those amps they talking about n also all the Liquids 2 .

But when i post i don't try n sound like a fuking Pharmacist .;)
 
You might be Snr MOd n ting but i Have more experience with these drugs than any regular poster in EADD Period .


Just cos i saw all these BD Mods & Benzoman Giving it large about stuff .

I got the script 2 Back my shit up n 20 years of scripts including nuff ting & i lived in Portugal where i was buying benzo's like sweets. I have had all those amps they talking about n also all the Liquids 2 .

But when i post i don't try n sound like a fuking Pharmacist .



Why do you post stuff like this? If anyone comes across high and mighty about benzos Brimz it is you.

I'm not trying to start an argument but all the senior mods has been trying to do is give HR advice. Again no offence to Baoooz as you do give some good advice in this thread but surely anyone who's a senior mod on here (an HR forum, shock horror we're talking HR in the benzo thread..) shouldn't be making IV'ing benzos sound like it is in any way a good idea.
 
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