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EADD Benzo Discussion v. Finally remembered to start a new thread.

Shambles said:
I tested positive for benzos on more than one occasion when pisstested after using etizolam
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Likewise, I also tested positive after having not been anywhere near benzos at all. Guess there must have been a water soluble one of some sort in the smack I was getting, only answer I can think of.
 
I acquired a few MSJs the other day, I was a little skeptical but when they arrived they were tiny, possibly identical to the first ones I saw.

Not at all bad IMO, probably close to 10mg, 2 were certainly enough to induce sleep in my stim soaked body
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
Likewise, I also tested positive after having not been anywhere near benzos at all. Guess there must have been a water soluble one of some sort in the smack I was getting, only answer I can think of.
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Yeah, I tested positive for barbiturates once, even though I've never even seen any. Can only put it down to a cut in the gear.
 
sorry double post i know but want answer right ive just clicked i am going to run out before thursday morning will my beta blockers help keep me from withdrawing and do basically the same thing as etzi and others i am taking ?
 
What do people think of the flood of what I believe to be excellent counterfeit UK branded valium? The blackmarket is flooded with both Teva and Actavis boxed Diazepam complete with instruction/use leaflets inside and even braille on the boxes. I've seen actual scripted branded dazepam and compared the packaging of each and I was unable to tell them apart. The dose is very weak though. It's terrible quality. I don't understand if this is a counterfeit operation; why they've gone through all the effort of creating a perfect clone of packaging (Not easy) then cheaped out on a VERY cheap core ingredient. Most people I talk to won't believe that they're utter shite yet without tolerance they're able to take 100mg and not wake up wobbling. They believe they're real and clearly a placebo is enough for them. What is going on? Someone explain!
 
Hmmm , I had 8 10mg Activis the other week, the blister pack was perfect but I ws slightly suspicious of the actual pills although I had no 'real' one to compare to.

I take very few benzos these days, it's been at least a couple of months since I took any, they were certainly active but I suspected they must be well under 10mg, the state alone was a give away.

I had a few of the small MSJs this week and they were easily stronger, shame the contents isnt living up to the packaging, in my case anyhow
 
I'm wondering if it's a similar situation to what happens with fake trainers. The people that manage the trainer factories in China know the entire production process beginning to end and either start their own factory to create fakes with this knowledge or enable someone else to do it for a percentage or an arrangement similar to that. That seems the most likely option to me. Are British brand Diazepam manufactured in the UK or abroad?
 
DS_ said:
I'm wondering if it's a similar situation to what happens with fake trainers. The people that manage the trainer factories in China know the entire production process beginning to end and either start their own factory to create fakes with this knowledge or enable someone else to do it for a percentage or an arrangement similar to that. That seems the most likely option to me. Are British brand Diazepam manufactured in the UK or abroad?
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If it has the letters BP after it (British pharmacopia) then it will have been manufactured here.... It would say something like.....
Diazepam tablets BP 10mg

The British Pharmacopoeia (BP) is an annual published collection of quality standards for UK medicinal substances. It is used by individuals and organizations involved in pharmaceutical research, development, manufacture and testing

If it doesn't have BP after the drug name I would be a bit wary although that's not to say that meds abroad are bad or also the counterfeiters don't just copy the BP mark either. I'm not a pharmacist however so it doesn't hurt to do a bit of research into whatever drug you've obtained.... That's what t"interweb is for :)
 
rugged butthole said:
Right do these new benzos not show up on tests?

I'm in treatment for mega benzo addiction. I binned all my conventional benzos expecting a taper. Nahh...

Gotta carry on for 6 weeka getting tested for benzos. So ive been taking vast quanties of rc benzos cos I couldn't afford to restock on conventional valium xanax nitraz loraz.

First two tests were positive now even though ive been hammering flubromazolam 2-3mg, clonazolam 3mg , diclazepam10-20mg, pyrazolam 3-6mg all together daily I tested negative for benzos, likely when the normal ones left my system.

Is this a freak event? Can they not detect the metabolites? Going for a urine test next week. Hope they don't think I'm lying because my diazepam taper which is very rare these days is important to me.

Another possibility, is the big company sending out sugar pills? 1.5mg clonazolam floored my mate so I think not but anyone else had inconsistencies?

What test should I ask for to prove I am an addict?

My tolerance is so huge the amount I have daily does nothing as far as I can tell.

I was just managing to get into a routine and dose management system too :(
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Ok so im just making random posts now but might as well give my 2 cents while im here

I know im sailing close to an infraction with the testing questions, but if you do some research Rugged, you will find that there is one very popular RC Benzodiazepine derivative that produces NO active metabolites (the molecules drug tests look for in bodily samples)

Ive also changed my tune on nifoxipam, they do produce good effects but the 2mg pellets are so weak you need fistfulls of them to feel anything, and i have a moderate if not super high tolerance.

This week i brought some Diclazepam for the first time in months. 10mg (5x2mg pelllets) on monday night produced excellent effect, facilitating a very useful 'councellling' session following my weekends heartbreak

Im still to sample the Clonazolam,as i dont trust any of the vendors stocking it. I have always stuck to one source, which might be identifiable to any observant person who studies my RC Benzo pharmacopoeia carefully....
 
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foolsgold said:
sorry double post i know but want answer right ive just clicked i am going to run out before thursday morning will my beta blockers help keep me from withdrawing and do basically the same thing as etzi and others i am taking ?
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No, no , no.

The beta blockers might treat some WD symptoms (shaking, heart-racing etc) but they aren't going to be an effective replacement for the effects of benzos. Not sure what dose you were on but if it was high enough, and over a significant while then you'll probably get WD symptoms before tomorrow. If you feel like you are getting any, get to an a+e. Or at least have somebody with you.
 
@FUBAR barbs were and probably still are in some instances a popular cut for gear as they knock you out and are water soluble - My scripted diazepam are always Activis and spot on.
 
thewhitebuilding said:
No, no , no.

The beta blockers might treat some WD symptoms (shaking, heart-racing etc) but they aren't going to be an effective replacement for the effects of benzos. Not sure what dose you were on but if it was high enough, and over a significant while then you'll probably get WD symptoms before tomorrow. If you feel like you are getting any, get to an a+e. Or at least have somebody with you.
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cheers yes il keep an eye on things and just have to hope my order gets here in the morning
 
Question here.
A roommate of mine came home drunk and under the influence of speed. I was just browsing etc. while on meth. I asked her if she thought she'd be able to sleep and how late she took the last bit of speed. She took her last snort half an hour ago and she said she'd never be able to sleep.

I gave her 1.5mL Etizolam after which she went to bed. When she was already in her room I realised how stupid this might've been, since I don't know how much she drank. After 10 hours, I really started worrying, thinking she might've stopped breathing, but I was too afraid to go check on her. I was scared as hell, thought I killed her. Four hours later, so 14 hours in total, she woke up and came out of her room. She said she slept like a baby and never slept this well after speed.

My question: Was this probably a near lethal action? Did I nearly kill her? Or are the chances of this actually going wrong next to none, maybe because of the speed, maybe because of the low Etizolam dose, whatever?
 
LearntYoung said:
Question here.
A roommate of mine came home drunk and under the influence of speed. I was just masturbating furiously while on meth. I asked her if she thought she'd be able to sleep and how late she took the last bit of speed. She took her last snort half an hour ago and she said she'd never be able to sleep.

I gave her 1.5mL Etizolam after which she went to bed. When she was already in her room I realised how stupid this might've been, since I don't know how much she drank. After 10 hours, I really started worrying, thinking she might've stopped breathing, but I was too afraid to go check on her. I was scared as hell, thought I killed her. Four hours later, so 14 hours in total, she woke up and came out of her room. She said she slept like a baby and never slept this well after speed.

My question: Was this probably a near lethal action? Did I nearly kill her? Or are the chances of this actually going wrong next to none, maybe because of the speed, maybe because of the low Etizolam dose, whatever?
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The main risk here is puking while sleeping and not waking up, in which case there is a chance of suffocating on the puke. This will usually happen after the main effects of the stimulant have worn off but there is still sedation from the booze/benzos. There were several unknown variables: you didn't know exactly how drunk she was, or how wired, or how she'd react to benzos in general. Did she specifically ask for the dose of etizolam or did you offer it? TBH in such a case you'd get into a world of trouble if something DID go wrong.
 
Well, I said: I have etizolam for when I'm not able to sleep after uppers. Do you want some?
What I find the most important is: Was I doing something extremely dangerous?
Because if so, I'll know to never do that shit again... I was just high and wanted to help. Did the dosing according to how I take it myself etc.
It all went fine this time, as I already said, but just the thought of me, who's usually the most responsible user (in terms of knowing what drugs do etc. before I do them) acting on impulse possibly endangering someone else terrifies me. I usually never do that shit. On the contrary, I'm usually the person telling others: "Do you really think that's a good idea?"
 
If she was drunk and you started offering her some RC benzo that she was not familiar with then I'd say yeah you were "possibly endangering" her. She didn't absolutely need the etizolam, did she? You just thought it'd help her get to sleep a bit easier. Would she really have been so much worse off if you hadn't given her the etizolam?
 
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