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EADD Benzo Discussion v. Finally remembered to start a new thread.

Dunno, I know her boyfriend used the stuff and knows what it is. I also know she hates not having slept the entire night. The question is more: Did I endanger her life?
 
well so far so good nothing but a slight headache guess ive got lucky this time ive only got to hang in for another 16 hours or so


LearntYoung said:
Dunno, I know her boyfriend used the stuff and knows what it is. I also know she hates not having slept the entire night. The question is more: Did I endanger her life?
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i wouldnt say you endangered her life intentionally but yes that is what happened now don't start beating yourself up over it we all make mistakes and this is a good one for you to have learned :)
 
Well, lesson learnt indeed. Not making meth-influenced choices like that again. Sober is the moment to do "new" stuff, experience the outcome and then apply dosages based on that when under the influence if necessary.
 
Been dipping my toe into the RC poll because of lose of contacts/darkwed shutdowns and just prices of Diazepam getting to expensive.

I drink that's what I do but by fuck do I suffer the day after. Its either rinse and repeat which at this stage of my life ca only go on for 5 days tops before me body says enough is enough. Anyway I've gotten to know these well. Been using benzos since 07

Clonazolam - Potent (like its big bro) but be careful especially with booze in your system. I made the mistake of tsaking 3 .5s over the day in between sessions and cant remember fuck all for 2 day. Not the effect I'm after. But good and cheap all the same.

Diclazepam - My go to. Cheap. Bit like Diaz. I know where I am. No blackouts and still kill anxiety. Smooth.

Nifoxipam - I tired *a vendor's* .5s and had to eat a whole packet through (maybe 12mg?) felt ok not sure... gave up.

Pyrazolam - These for anyone looking truly anxiety killers look no further. They totally kill anxiety without any other effect. These are what I usually take. Beware though they are still benzos and even if you over do it and think you feel nothing you'll probably suffer from underlying amnesia like I have many a times

The 2 Flubros I'll give a miss. Flubro- b Sounds promising but if seems to go on forever and the Flubro l is whats gonna get a blanket ban on the whole thing .I've heard too many horror stories and back in the day I'd have ate that shit up all day and probably would be living homeless drinking Frosty Jack.
 
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Is it possible that taking 12 F-Lam last weekend has fucked up my tolerance even though it's been a week since?

I took 12 etizest last night and the hypnotic effects were minimal, finished the other 8 today with little effect.

Who's had experience with the chem and how long did it take for your receptors to replenish if you will?
 
I'll always be wary of loose diazepam now after what happened to me.

Got sold some from a usually reliable source. They were blue 10mg M&A pharmaceuticals ... You know the ones with the crossed "WW's" or at least that's what they look like and a score like with D|10 on the other. Anyway I bought my usual 50 and the last thing I remember thinking after shoving three in my mouth is hmmm they taste different.

Only bloody turns out they were fakes, full of phenazepam. I was blacked out for about 4-5 weeks and I lost a lot through that black out. God only knows how much phenazepam I consumed but because I was blacked out I just kept eating them thinking nothing of it.

Hadn't heard of phenazepam at the time but I went into my local drug centre for an appointment a few months after my ordeal and they had notices up about fake diazepam laced with phenazepam so I'm pretty sure that's what I had. I almost died during that ordeal and not bought loose since.

I've since lost touch with my contact for activas/teva diazepam, boxed, and I don't even know anyone else for benzos apart from one guy who's got some zopiclone but they're pap in my eyes.
 
Withdrawing from benzo's will make your mood feel all over the place and make you feel agitated, it will pass just make sure you don't stop taking them abruptly if you've been taking them a while as you'll be putting yourself at risk of seizures
 
blondin said:
@FUBAR barbs were and probably still are in some instances a popular cut for gear as they knock you out and are water soluble - My scripted diazepam are always Activis and spot on.
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My scripted diazepam is usually activis and like blondin - no problems (only i have the 5mg - you get the blues innit?)

I never thought about branded pharms vs generic - as long as they are from a legit high street chemist prescribed on a green nhs coupon, whats there to worry about - my preperation will contain the right amount of active ingredient

Ive had a love affair with clonazepam since 2002 and have managed to source a four figure amount over the 13 years or so. After exhausting a massive supply of 2mg Roche Rivotril tablets i took to europe, having clonazepam weekend breaks in eu countries from eire to spain and to greece, always coming home with a couple of months supply of the ever excellent Roche tablets.

I first tried generic clonazepam about 2 years ago, diverted medicines that were for distruction. I thought it must be psychological, but i didnt think the tablets I was taking had as much of a poke to them as the Rivotril brand.

Over the last 6 months or so Ive had access to a regular source of Clonazepam for the first time in years. They're diverted from a legitimate prescription (no darknet homepressed phenazepam tablets or anything) - They work absolutely fine, but the tablets are Auden Clonazepam 0.5mg as a pose to the Roche Rivotril/Klonopin that im used to. They do have good effect, but again they're not quite as po as the Roche - a usual dose for me when my tolerance is down is 2-4mg but i find with the Auden tablets i have to add an extra 0.5-1mg to attain the desired effect.

The tablets cant be that different, they have the same amount of CLNZ in them, and the binders and fillers in the pills cant have that much of an effect on their ingestion and metabolism. Is this some kind of unconcious brand snobbery or is something real happening here? Ive tried 11 different benzodiazepines in my lifetime and they have all worked as stated, all generic. The only branded benzos ive tried have been Roches Rivotril (as discussed) and their Lexotan Bromazepam tablets (i havnt used this drug much and have not tried a generic version)

So, despite taking umpteen different makes of diazepam tablet (including the tiny spanish efforts i got in ibiza - like microdots they were) ive always had good consistent effects from them all, 2mg, 5mg and 10mg alike.

So, if id spent years taking Roche Valiums, would i notice the difference between them and the diazepam i usually take? Or am i just crackers?
 
steewith2ees said:
Ive just gone outside my prefered vendor comfort zone and ordered 12.5mg of Clonazolam in pressed pellets

Ive heard good things, will they go the distance against my beloved Rivotril? Probably not, but ill report after the easter holiday as im having a benzo sabbatical this week
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i can't speak from personal experience, having only taken clomazepam, but i believe the general consensus is that clonazolam is actually stronger! but it doesn't taste very good. ritrovil tastes so damn good.
let us know how it goes for you, i'm thinking of getting some myself.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Regarding changing vendors, I've just ordered some 0.5mg nifoxipam instead of my usual 2mg ones. Anyone know how they compare? I know it sounds like a daft question, but I swear I read that the 0.5mg 'pellets' were better in some way..
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i've taken both and .5 is the way to go fubar, in fact, i'm on them right now! normally dose 5mgs for GAD.

they're stronger than the 2mg ones. imo the .5s are accurately dosed anden the supposed 2mgs probably contain about 0.1mgs, maybe even less.
foxys are more functional/therapeutic
benzos by the way, a lot of people slate them because they don't get u rekt, but that is the exact reason i buy them.
 
Nice one, cheers keeping :) In fact, I think it was one of your posts I was referring to.

I too like the foxies for the same reason. Plus they work fast, dont cause excessive amnesia and don't shaft you up the arse when your back's turned...
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Nice one, cheers keeping :) In fact, I think it was one of your posts I was referring to.

I too like the foxies for the same reason. Plus they work fast, dont cause excessive amnesia and don't shaft you up the arse when your back's turned...
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no problem mate. i suffer from GAD and panic disorder and these foxies are so damn helpful, wish the UK would prescribe better anxiety medication, but at least i've got these.
the general absence of anal deflowering is also a huge bonus.

have you tried pyrazolam? i heard lots of people mention it as a great therapeutic drug, and i'd be interested in trying it, especially since i just ran out of me foxies 8(; but i might just re-up on my last order.
 
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Clonazolam has a new fan.

Started with 2mg which was probably a bit much but heyhey, took approx 50 mins to reach threshold but once they started working - yum yum. Felt very remenicent of my early clonazepam experience, only id say these are at least 50% more potent by weight than clonazepam, with sedation more towards the forefront of effects than its pharmaceutical equivalent. Flubromazepam has, up untill now, been my favourite rc benzodiazepine but the length of time they take to start working has always been a problem. So, lets have a new rc benzo chart - they all have their uses (apart from etizolam, what a load of overated wank, no wonder there are so many people struggling with dependance on these when you need half a strip to even feel anything)

My favourite rc benzos that i have 'tested' hehe are

Clonazolam! (brilliant)
Flubromazepam (fantasticly super powerful, long acting - takes too long to start working)
Diclazepam (good all rounder, recently re-discovered these after a 6 month affair with f-pam - subtle at pellet pressed amounts but feels very 'benzing' at higher doses i.e 8-12mg range)
Nifoxipam (Nothing spectacular, but still has a wide range of good effects and is probably both the quickest and shortest acting - only problem is that the 2mg pellets seem underdosed - need at least 10-14mg)
Pyrazolam (the sensible member of the gang, offers no recreational value but with an extremely pronounced anxiolitic effect at even low doses, they can make for a good therapeutic tool)
Etizolam (get out of town)

Obviously flubromazolam is now in my sights, but with its similar effect profile to flubromazepam and its catastrophic effect on peoples tolerance to this class of drugs, is it really worth a blast?
 
Strange that people say the 2mg foxies are weak - I've found the exact opposite. I've never yet felt the need to have more than 2 x 2 mg tablets to do exactly what I want from them I.e. stimkill, relaxation, sedation and sleep. Don't really require anxiolytic effects as I seem to have grown out of that part of my life. However, I normally mix with booze (which isn't big or clever folks) so maybe that's why. Unfortunately, I think they have quite a pronounced rebound effect which is probably what Foolsgold was referring to when he mentioned they have a nasty kick to them. Recently I've found that I can chew a couple of 2mg tabs about 9pm on top of a load of booze, fall into a nice relaxing state within 30 minutes and be out cold in an hour, but be wide awake by 4am feeling quite uncomfortable and twitchy - unless that's still down to methadone withdrawals...
 
steewith2ees said:
ok i know im probably asking for trouble but theres 25 250mcg flubromazolam pellets en route to my postbox. i hear the pellets are more consistantly dosed than the blotters
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heard those can raise your tolerance rather drastically...

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