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EADD 6-APDB Thread...v.1..So what the fuck is this then?

LearntYoung said:
Here's my problem visualized for everybody :p Two dose recommendations, 75 -140...
Should I go for about 100mg, since I probably still have quite the tolerance?
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Go for 75. worst case scenario you are underwhelmed then just do more. Better safe than sorry.
 
My 75mg recommendation is with my HR forum hat on. That is after all the point of BL. Would it kill you to risk not getting utterly spangled first time out? Nope. Would it kill you to take way more than you need first time out? Probably not either but may make for a shitty night. Or a great one. Titration upwards works far, far better than titration downwards was the point I was making. That and prior or existing tolerance to other serotonergics bears little or no relation to 6-APDB doses as far as I can tell.

From my own persepective, I wouldn't feel 100mg however long it had been since I last took a serotonergic. I know of several people who would find 100mg to be bordering on an overdose and certainly not enjoyable. How long is a piece of string? The "average" dose range seems to go from around 70mg or so up to around 300mg or so. That's a wide range so I was simply advising to start somewhere nearer the lower end of what is generally perceived as "average" and take it from there.

Redosing works fine with 6-APDB which helps if it really is such a problem to fall short of rollling around on the floor dribbling and stroking stuff first time out. Just don't push it too far cos by around 500mg (over a night - not advisable for anybody without a deathwish to take as a one-off dose) the comedown starts to outweigh the good stuff.
 
I know what you're saying. There isn't anything any one can really say to you. Tbh if it was me I would definitely do the whole lot but it's not the safest way to go about it
 
Allergy tests are most often suggested around the 1mg mark cos if you're allergic you'll know it even at that level and any higher could be a bit risky on the offchance you do happen to be allergic. Then again, if it were a substance dosed in microgrammes that'd already be a borderline overdose. Without wishing to go any further on the specifics, I suspect I know where your sample came from and would further suspect it'll be legit so the 1mg level should suffice.

A split dose is not such a bad thing with 6-APDB cos it can be kinda mongy taking large doses at once - tends to have a wee bit more energy if you split a dose in two. It's possible sample sizes are set at that level for a reason, it's possible they're not. I would imagine they'd be set within a range where most folks would get a "full" experience and more sensitive folks would (probably) not actually die. Beyond that the decision is yours but sounds like you've settled on more or less what I'd like to think I would do...

Enjoy <3
 
Thanks, will do, but I will first have to wait 2 more months for my break to be a year. Just wanted to be informed in advance. I'll let you guys know how it was and maybe I'll even write a full report.
 
I would recommend *way* below 140mg. 100mg is probably ok if you still have tolerance but I would still be looking to go lower for my first time.

Be aware that this is almost entirely a serotonin releaser and will therefore be very different to MDMA - much less euphoric and rushy and more sedating, almost psychedelic. Don't go redosing up the dose because "it's not like MDMA" because one will never get "there".
 
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Transform said:
I would recommend *way* below 140mg. 100mg is probably ok if you still have tolerance but I would still be looking to go lower for my first time.

Be aware that this is almost entirely a serotonin releaser and will therefore be very different to MDMA - much less euphoric and rushy and more sedating, almost psychedelic. Don't go ramping up the dose because it's not like MDMA because you will never get "there".
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Erm... I'll go with 80mg.
I said that already :)
 
Sorry yes, I didn't see there was a second page. Additionally this is a public forum and others can benefit after you've made your mind up :)
 
80mg just seems very low to me. Even considering harm reduction the standard dose on the Dutch forums is 125mg and most take 150mg or more.

100mg is a dose used here for first timers who have little experience with mdma like drugs. But i have no experience with 6apDb myself. Only 6apb so i guess i can only speculate from what i have read.
 
I think I will start with 80mg too, and keep a 30/40mg redose, just in case... I hope this works as it should, my results didn't turn out to be the exactly like Transform`s, even though they were similar.

Shambles, a biomedic friend told me that allergy only manifests itself when you get in contact with a substance for the second time, at least. So in that case, a one-time allergy test wouldn't be reliable as such. What do you guys say?
I always do it anyway, but more as a safeguard to avoid accidentally taking 100mg of something like Bromo-dragonfly.
 
I took 60mg yesterday hoping for threshold effects, at best. But since I had a bit more than that, I wrote this TR =D
 
Torresmo said:
I always do it anyway, but more as a safeguard to avoid accidentally taking 100mg of something like Bromo-dragonfly.
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To be honest I think this kinda thing is really the bigger concern than actual allergies. There are very few substances that are even remotely likely to be sold as RCs on the general markert - either deliberately or mistakenly - which will actually kill people at 1mg but all of those that come even close would be very, very noticeable at that kinda level. This is what I've always considered shorthand for "alergy dosing" myself.

And glad ya had fun =D
 
Tried this stuff this friday, was awesome!
Great euphoria, nice visuals and a slight bit of energy.
Had to throw up when it kicked in though
 
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