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DXM products in the UK

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Ended getting this bad boy, but only 195ml of DXM per bottle, guess ill have to buy another one, maybe even 2 more. It also says other active ingredients are diphenydramine and levomethol, any ideas if these are bad for you in high doses?
 
That's no good. Levomenthol isn't something you want to take in larger than recommended doses. The one with DXM is the "Non-Drowsy" formulation if memory serves.
 
make sure you got some anti-histamine's on hand.. pure dxm turned me bright red and i got lumps all over my chest..
 
I got a call a few weeks ago from a friend who's studying in Spain. Apparently he went to the chemist to get some cough syrup and was given something OTC and told to take three 15ml spoonfulls every so many hours (every three or four I think). Closer inspection of the bottle revealed that each millilitre contained 19mg of DXM, which would mean the chemist was suggesting he took 405mg three or four times a day at least. Unfortunately for him he didn't bother to check the bottle til much later in the day, having spent most of the afternoon lying sprawled on a park bench halfway between the chemists and his university tripping heavilly and thinking he was going to die but not being particularly concerned about it.

Apparently he'd been taking codeine without much regard for the dosage as well as another anti-tussive I forget the name of. He'd also been drinking (he's seldom sober), which would have sped up the onset of the DXM and explains the intensity he experienced. Apparently at the time he'd paid very little attention to what the active ingredient in the cough syrup was, and only realised what it was when he later cheked the bottle and remembered me mentioning it at some point. He was absolutely shitting himself on the come-up, not knowing why he was suddenly off his tits.
 
19mg DXM will have been per 5ml minimum surely won't it? 19mg/ml is stupidly high, a single medicine spoonful of that would have you trippy, doesn't sound right
 
I'm sure that that's the dose that he reported to me, as I worked it out in my head off the bat and came up with a figure more or less the same as the one he'd arrived at. Whilst its possible he was somehow mistaken (I don't think he was exagerating particularly, and he wouldn't inflate numbers intentionally) a dose of around 150mg (which your suggested strength would equate to) wouldn't produce the effects he mentioned. He described feeling like the sunshine, pavement and nearby foliage were 'rubbing against his face' as he walked into the park. He also became fixated on a peacock near the pond in the park and thought he was getting sucked into the eye on its plumage at one point. These don't really strike me as low dose effects. He did however mention an effect similar to nodding and asked me if it was normal to 'forget to breath' on DXM, both of which are more typical of codeine rather than DXM use if I'm not mistaken, so I suppose it could have been a low dose reacting particularly synergistically with the codeine he'd been taking.
 
as an adult cough dose is usually about 20mg it seems more likely that that would be a dose in a spoon rather than 5 times that doesn't it?
also cough syrup almost always lists it's ingredients per 5ml and some people react to very low doses of dxm (there's a specific enzyme deficiency that occurs in a decent %age of the population)
 
It does, I have to concede, but I'm having trouble squaring the low dose with the scale of the effects. I suppose it must have been either a combination of factors coming together or just him taking a particularly high dose of one of the other medicines.

Come to think of it, aren't codeine and DXM metabolised by the same couple of enzymes?

Edit: They're both metabolised by the CYP3A4 and CYP2D6 enzymes, would I be right in thinking their having to compete for the same enzymes would lead to a potentiation?
 
oh I hadn't even thought of that, you can use DXM to massively potentate opiates like so yeah I guess we could have solved this mystery :D
 
Haha, good stuff. I'll let him know when I next speak to him, though its a little bit after the fact now.

I've only had DXM once myself, and it was ingested in an fashion fairly contrary to harm reduction. I was steaming drunk (and not a little bit stoned) one night and having drank almost my entire box of wine was bumbling about looking for something end my night with. I didn't want any stimulants as I had uni the next day, but somehow I reasoned it would be fine to give some of the DXM I'd bought a go. I bombed around 300mg which was fairly pleasant, but then drunkenly decided that another bomb of equal size would make it even better. I don't really remember much after that (a friend who asked me over msn if I still planned to go to uni the next day got the response "Only if I'm a ghostlike figure that tells them they're being watched") but I regained consciousness to find myself a bit of a mess and pretty much stayed that way for the next three of four days.
 
You didn't literally google '+ 2 words' did you? lmao

I enjoyed the post on another forum about 15 years of dxm abuse that popped up from searching for 2 words!
 
Just be careful not to take it while on SSRI's, I believe thats a sure fire way to serotonin syndrome. When I tried DXM I spend my night curled up in bed wishing it would stop and running to the toilet every 10mins. No wonder its OTC I don't know why anyone would want to abuse that shit. I remember watching a US Intervention programme with some kid sucking off crack heads for hits of DXM. The rest of his night would be spent trying to remember his name, losing his stuff and being mugged. Good times.
 
I am on cipralex again- best avoid the DXM....
For the person who said benylin dry coughs contains glycerin, there are three versions of it:
The GSL version (glycerin) which is a demulcent/soothing treatment without any psychoactive effect whatsoever. This is the one usually sold on the shelf and in non-chemist shops.

The two P versions (pharmacy only-behind the counter) both contain DXM, the lighter box is DXM only and is what you're looking for.
The darker box is DXM, levomenthol and diphenhydramine. (will knock you out)
 
No idea why there are two threads on this. High doses of diphen will not knock you out. You'll be a delirious mess until it wears off.
 
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