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Drugs which inhibit orgasm in men, while allowing for erection
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Feelin-u4ia
Bluelighter
dude quit being a fucking wanker, bone the chick, and if u come too fast just keepin fucking her and youl nut twice, thats more amazing to girls than going once at it -_-. sex is for enjoyment bro, your turning it into a hassle... your negativity is making me not wanna have sex anymore lol
Bit slow to this tread but good crystal meth can keep me constantly physically sexually active, borderline orgasam with erection for 12 hours straight if need be (same goes with other stims, amps, cat, coke etc but the duration and intensity obviously differs (with meth being the best)).
Here is my little essay that took me more then a year to figure out with a lot of practice and free time and gets around all the usual stim/sex concerns, once you understand a few things. Meth or amps (not sure about MDMA) are the ultimate sex drugs by far with a few tweaks in technique.
Initially meth or amps seems like its counter productive for seemingly obvious common reasons your hear about but this is not true and can easily be avoided. Practice and some basic understandings and rules need to be followed and then its easy to fuck for more then 12 hours without pause or any loss in size or attention no matter your level of Vaso C or dose.
(Warning Dont do long hours or high doses like i mentioned, I have lost skin, muscle, dehydrated, hurt myself, bled, pulled muscles etc, passed out, and other bad things, but its all possible, easy and was prob worth any pain inflicted and damage done but that's up to your discretion). I would say 6 hours max is best for the heart, 12 hours my overweight heart starts to get very unhappy.
Now the Method
The ease of controlling and withholding orgasm is amazing with amps. Besides massively enhanced and positive sensation from the start (where mere initial touch can feel almost as good as having an orgasm without ever doing so or getting close), and then when you eventually get to the point where a real orgasm is nearby and possible, its very easy to delay this as well easily the near cut off point for hours if need be as well.
I tend to never actually proceed to orgasm until i actually want to stop completely, as its almost as good maintaining before that point and if you eventually go through with it, it does reduce your future performance and pleasure (the male refractory period is very much minimized on amps but still plays a part). For somebody who could normally go twice, they might be able to go three or four times as an example, but its not worth it as the first orgasm reduces much of the mental desire and physical sensation which are both really important.
This means secondary and future rounds can easily turn into the dreaded brain dead single minded rage fuck/jerk marathon where all mental control and technique is lost and you are an unstoppable mission to force results directly, physically and painfully(only felt much later) out of the appropriate body parts by pure brute force and willpower, for as long as necessary, even days perhaps, where failure is not an option. Trust me this common path of destruction can happen at any time and is a bad place to be. Very bad.
Anyways, my technique is the closest i have ever gotten to multiple orgasms as you can constantly maintain a basic pre-orgasm sensation for a very long period of time if you stay in control. Remaining in this state has made me pass out a few times and is prob not good on the heart and not safe but definitely possible and consistently repeatable. Just dont do it when you are a sedentary overweight unfit fuker like me. Im still alive but i was very worried a few times afterwards. But science demands risks after all.
In general with stim concerns, yes, you will most likely have shrinky willy of serious note in standby mode which might make considering any sexual activity concerning but that does not effect your package whatsoever in overall size potential or willingness/speed to get to full attention when required, if you know what to do. But to do that consistently, there is a somewhat obvious secret.
The main secret to managing any issues and all the big and commonly perceived risks and issues is to always remember that your results are absolutely 100% based on your mental state, thoughts and what you focus your attention on. Blah sounds lame right, but read on.
I swear to your right now that there are no performance issues on stims (not even those seemingly caused by the worst VASOC inverted vagpenis you have ever seen) that cannot be corrected almost instantly with the correct mental process as long as you have the required external stimili of some sort that works for you. More below.
Due to the mental focus on meth and stims, you will do silly mental things that you would usually have good automatic control over normally. Keeping specific mental focus points conscious during your activities is the secret.
1. If you loose interest in whatever is providing your sexual stimuli or get distracted from it directly, you will loose the erection very very quickly, almost instantly. This can be a big fear and is what many have experienced and its NEVER obvious what just happened. Took me months to analyze this point to figure out exactly what went wrong instead of incorrectly blaming and beating on my poor mini in frustration.
I found out that with the intense focus on stims its possible and very likely your focus shifts sneakily or instantly without you realizing from the external sexual stimuli of the correct kind (the thing that causes arousal, attraction to your sex prater, getting turned on by the porn you are watching et, a pretty face, nice tits etc). Basically all the external shit that would turn you on in a sexual situation.
And instead your focus shifts to your physical sensations or pleasure you may be receiving or the physical actions you are taking part in (like going into a single minded tweaker robot action loop sex mode!). The emotion and arousal stimuli get sidelined and that's the killer. When this happens huge changes somehow take place in the brain on meth/amps prob due to its effect on the reward response which requires more rewardable stimili (important point for maximizing pleasure any amp activities).
Yes physical genital stimulation can still feel good, keeping you trapped in focusing on that, but its lost much of the effect and pleasure at this point and you can immediately see something is wrong and euphoria, reward and pleasure start dropping. But you dont know why and start attacking you partner or body bits to fix it but thats just a downhill battle to disappointment. You have forgotten at this point that its not only a physical game but a mental/emotional one as well.
Things deteriorate badly from here, an erection can almost instantly turn into a shriveled little raisin, pleasure drops, anxiety kicks in, shame etc and you have no idea wtf happened since you still feel sexually activated/stimulated to some degree and sense pleasure from the right places physically, touch etc. Physically you are still doing everything right and it still feels ok. And you cant figure out how to move forward and get the little guy working properly again.
And all thats missing is the conscious mental/emotional focus on the source of the sexual stimuli again, what this being depending on what you are into personally. To use an example:
1. Focusing on "Om gawwd it feels good when XX happens to my cawk" or any other physical pleasure focus point is a path to failure as this focuses on physical sensations but looses the source of the sexual arousal in the first place which is CRITICAL. Imaging getting yourself off with zero stimuli, no partner, no pron, no nothing that turns you on, or watching the news or family vacation videos. Doesnt seem likely but this is what happens accidentally all the time in concept.
2. Instead focus on your partners face, or body and reasons why you find her attractive, if you love her etc. Same with pron, where the more softcore stuff like facial expressions and internal mental/ fantasy role playing work amazingly well, as it keeps focus on desire and not physical sensations. Anything sexually arousing that makes you forget about you own current physical pleasure, which can be very great and therefore distracting, works like a boss.
My theory for this is that the dopamine reward process with meth and stims requires some worthy emotional or external stimili to function properly and keep spamming out the reward response. Anything that might turn you on or give you that little adrenaline jolt in sober day to day life (like seeing an amazingly hot girl for eg) is what you need for this to make it work best. You know what arouses you mentally, just focus on that. Its an ongoing job though as you will always get distracted, the longer its been.
So yeah: Just keep the focus external on stimuli and not internal or on yourself physically. In this way i have maintained for hours even with heavy Vaso C and the worst starting shrinkage possible. In fact that the more VASOC and shrinkage I have the better it turns out overall due to the seemingly directly comparable orgasm delaying response there is as well.
Its all the MIND with stims. I am sure some of this works sober as well, but not sure, that's to boring to test.
Oh, just some info regarding alcohol combined that may be relevant.
I would always start stims after drinking. Prob quite drunk when sourcing spontaineously or at least 3-4 beers in when planning the session. Always done this due to years back when starting with coke and other stims. Always had anxiety my whole life and from teen MDMA abuse and a few drinks takes the edge off so i can enjoy the stim, otherwize i feel more side effects, anxiety, jitters then the good stuff.
In terms of sexual performance. If i started when heavily drunk, I would still feel similar desire but actual performance would be lower for some reason (not interms of erection but in terms of pleasure, I would need to wait about 2-4 hours where the alcohol seems to mostly be worn off in terms of physical effect and from then on sexual performance and pleasure is at max. Note however i always have alcohol in the system dring using, at least 1 beer every 30mins to an hour type levels.
I find to much alcohol helps the vasoc but hurts the overall results. When your little guy is tuking himself in hard and holding his nuts in as close and tight as possible, its the best situation. To much Booze can often reduce the vaso c to when things look almost normal and your balls have dropped again like when you where in school, and then for some reason all the enhanced sensation, duration and pleasure abilities and all the benefits mostly go away or get reduced drastically.
So some alcohol good, to much bad, none at all have never tried so no idea. Will say however that when struggling to maintain arousaul mentally perhaps due to to long duration so far, an infusion of alcohol helps with that mentally and also when the mind gets a bit to hectic, intense to focused, out of control etc. Good for example to take a drink (or a break) when you realize you have been rage-jerking for 2 hours while blankly staring holes into bedroom door convinced somebody is going to walk in at any second and bust you.
Here is my little essay that took me more then a year to figure out with a lot of practice and free time and gets around all the usual stim/sex concerns, once you understand a few things. Meth or amps (not sure about MDMA) are the ultimate sex drugs by far with a few tweaks in technique.
Initially meth or amps seems like its counter productive for seemingly obvious common reasons your hear about but this is not true and can easily be avoided. Practice and some basic understandings and rules need to be followed and then its easy to fuck for more then 12 hours without pause or any loss in size or attention no matter your level of Vaso C or dose.
(Warning Dont do long hours or high doses like i mentioned, I have lost skin, muscle, dehydrated, hurt myself, bled, pulled muscles etc, passed out, and other bad things, but its all possible, easy and was prob worth any pain inflicted and damage done but that's up to your discretion). I would say 6 hours max is best for the heart, 12 hours my overweight heart starts to get very unhappy.
Now the Method
The ease of controlling and withholding orgasm is amazing with amps. Besides massively enhanced and positive sensation from the start (where mere initial touch can feel almost as good as having an orgasm without ever doing so or getting close), and then when you eventually get to the point where a real orgasm is nearby and possible, its very easy to delay this as well easily the near cut off point for hours if need be as well.
I tend to never actually proceed to orgasm until i actually want to stop completely, as its almost as good maintaining before that point and if you eventually go through with it, it does reduce your future performance and pleasure (the male refractory period is very much minimized on amps but still plays a part). For somebody who could normally go twice, they might be able to go three or four times as an example, but its not worth it as the first orgasm reduces much of the mental desire and physical sensation which are both really important.
This means secondary and future rounds can easily turn into the dreaded brain dead single minded rage fuck/jerk marathon where all mental control and technique is lost and you are an unstoppable mission to force results directly, physically and painfully(only felt much later) out of the appropriate body parts by pure brute force and willpower, for as long as necessary, even days perhaps, where failure is not an option. Trust me this common path of destruction can happen at any time and is a bad place to be. Very bad.
Anyways, my technique is the closest i have ever gotten to multiple orgasms as you can constantly maintain a basic pre-orgasm sensation for a very long period of time if you stay in control. Remaining in this state has made me pass out a few times and is prob not good on the heart and not safe but definitely possible and consistently repeatable. Just dont do it when you are a sedentary overweight unfit fuker like me. Im still alive but i was very worried a few times afterwards. But science demands risks after all.
In general with stim concerns, yes, you will most likely have shrinky willy of serious note in standby mode which might make considering any sexual activity concerning but that does not effect your package whatsoever in overall size potential or willingness/speed to get to full attention when required, if you know what to do. But to do that consistently, there is a somewhat obvious secret.
The main secret to managing any issues and all the big and commonly perceived risks and issues is to always remember that your results are absolutely 100% based on your mental state, thoughts and what you focus your attention on. Blah sounds lame right, but read on.
I swear to your right now that there are no performance issues on stims (not even those seemingly caused by the worst VASOC inverted vagpenis you have ever seen) that cannot be corrected almost instantly with the correct mental process as long as you have the required external stimili of some sort that works for you. More below.
Due to the mental focus on meth and stims, you will do silly mental things that you would usually have good automatic control over normally. Keeping specific mental focus points conscious during your activities is the secret.
1. If you loose interest in whatever is providing your sexual stimuli or get distracted from it directly, you will loose the erection very very quickly, almost instantly. This can be a big fear and is what many have experienced and its NEVER obvious what just happened. Took me months to analyze this point to figure out exactly what went wrong instead of incorrectly blaming and beating on my poor mini in frustration.
I found out that with the intense focus on stims its possible and very likely your focus shifts sneakily or instantly without you realizing from the external sexual stimuli of the correct kind (the thing that causes arousal, attraction to your sex prater, getting turned on by the porn you are watching et, a pretty face, nice tits etc). Basically all the external shit that would turn you on in a sexual situation.
And instead your focus shifts to your physical sensations or pleasure you may be receiving or the physical actions you are taking part in (like going into a single minded tweaker robot action loop sex mode!). The emotion and arousal stimuli get sidelined and that's the killer. When this happens huge changes somehow take place in the brain on meth/amps prob due to its effect on the reward response which requires more rewardable stimili (important point for maximizing pleasure any amp activities).
Yes physical genital stimulation can still feel good, keeping you trapped in focusing on that, but its lost much of the effect and pleasure at this point and you can immediately see something is wrong and euphoria, reward and pleasure start dropping. But you dont know why and start attacking you partner or body bits to fix it but thats just a downhill battle to disappointment. You have forgotten at this point that its not only a physical game but a mental/emotional one as well.
Things deteriorate badly from here, an erection can almost instantly turn into a shriveled little raisin, pleasure drops, anxiety kicks in, shame etc and you have no idea wtf happened since you still feel sexually activated/stimulated to some degree and sense pleasure from the right places physically, touch etc. Physically you are still doing everything right and it still feels ok. And you cant figure out how to move forward and get the little guy working properly again.
And all thats missing is the conscious mental/emotional focus on the source of the sexual stimuli again, what this being depending on what you are into personally. To use an example:
1. Focusing on "Om gawwd it feels good when XX happens to my cawk" or any other physical pleasure focus point is a path to failure as this focuses on physical sensations but looses the source of the sexual arousal in the first place which is CRITICAL. Imaging getting yourself off with zero stimuli, no partner, no pron, no nothing that turns you on, or watching the news or family vacation videos. Doesnt seem likely but this is what happens accidentally all the time in concept.
2. Instead focus on your partners face, or body and reasons why you find her attractive, if you love her etc. Same with pron, where the more softcore stuff like facial expressions and internal mental/ fantasy role playing work amazingly well, as it keeps focus on desire and not physical sensations. Anything sexually arousing that makes you forget about you own current physical pleasure, which can be very great and therefore distracting, works like a boss.
My theory for this is that the dopamine reward process with meth and stims requires some worthy emotional or external stimili to function properly and keep spamming out the reward response. Anything that might turn you on or give you that little adrenaline jolt in sober day to day life (like seeing an amazingly hot girl for eg) is what you need for this to make it work best. You know what arouses you mentally, just focus on that. Its an ongoing job though as you will always get distracted, the longer its been.
So yeah: Just keep the focus external on stimuli and not internal or on yourself physically. In this way i have maintained for hours even with heavy Vaso C and the worst starting shrinkage possible. In fact that the more VASOC and shrinkage I have the better it turns out overall due to the seemingly directly comparable orgasm delaying response there is as well.
Its all the MIND with stims. I am sure some of this works sober as well, but not sure, that's to boring to test.
Oh, just some info regarding alcohol combined that may be relevant.
I would always start stims after drinking. Prob quite drunk when sourcing spontaineously or at least 3-4 beers in when planning the session. Always done this due to years back when starting with coke and other stims. Always had anxiety my whole life and from teen MDMA abuse and a few drinks takes the edge off so i can enjoy the stim, otherwize i feel more side effects, anxiety, jitters then the good stuff.
In terms of sexual performance. If i started when heavily drunk, I would still feel similar desire but actual performance would be lower for some reason (not interms of erection but in terms of pleasure, I would need to wait about 2-4 hours where the alcohol seems to mostly be worn off in terms of physical effect and from then on sexual performance and pleasure is at max. Note however i always have alcohol in the system dring using, at least 1 beer every 30mins to an hour type levels.
I find to much alcohol helps the vasoc but hurts the overall results. When your little guy is tuking himself in hard and holding his nuts in as close and tight as possible, its the best situation. To much Booze can often reduce the vaso c to when things look almost normal and your balls have dropped again like when you where in school, and then for some reason all the enhanced sensation, duration and pleasure abilities and all the benefits mostly go away or get reduced drastically.
So some alcohol good, to much bad, none at all have never tried so no idea. Will say however that when struggling to maintain arousaul mentally perhaps due to to long duration so far, an infusion of alcohol helps with that mentally and also when the mind gets a bit to hectic, intense to focused, out of control etc. Good for example to take a drink (or a break) when you realize you have been rage-jerking for 2 hours while blankly staring holes into bedroom door convinced somebody is going to walk in at any second and bust you.
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