Originally posted by quiet roar
Again, let me reiterate I do not do drugs in front of my children. Nor do I condone them being around people who are off their face. All those things you mentioned psychokitten, I agree with.
Aye, I was not saying you weren’t.
But I do not agree that when you have children you cannot do drugs.
I have never said as much – what I have said is that I would not do drugs in front of them or subject them to an environment where people were on drugs.
And in response to your previous post of "how do you know?" I have been smoking the same way for many many moons, so I know exactly how I will be effected. And if it's a case of coming home when coming down off a pill, again I know how I am before I face my kids. Not to mention some of my warmest moments with my kids have been Saturday mornings in the park or backyard, with the mdma residuals still in my system.
I have no doubt; it is still not a situation I would want to put myself in.
Originally posted by *sunflower*
I will agree that children can inherit (either through environment or genetics) inappropriate parenting behaviour, e.g. parents who use alcohol/drugs/violence as a coping mechanism can pass this down to their children.
I whole heartedly agree here, I believe a tendency to (ab)use drugs can be passed on as a behavioural pattern, we see evidence of this (on a much larger scale) in abused children growing to abuse their own children, whilst drug use is certainly not held on the same level as abusing your children (well at least not anywhere except in the eyes of the law) I do believe that taking drugs in front of your children sets a behavioural pattern that is not easy to break.
Originally posted by doofqueen
now see with the trippers thing i'm assuming your talking about doofs again.
You would be wrong. People do take acid outside a doof environment. It was an example, one I chose because people can easily relate to. People on acid aren’t rational, in control or readily responsible for their judgement and attitude. The simple fact that they are not in full control of themselves prevents me from even thinking about putting a child in that environment.
have you been to a doof? because if you have you wouldn't be so judgmental hey. doofs are not based soley on drugs. They are based on music, freedom, individuality, community, peace and love (as hippy shit ramble as that sounds) Drugs that are used are not in the open. People are not that fucked up.
You have got to be kidding? Your view on doofs is a little rosy-eyed. The amount of drug (ab)use that goes on at doofs is no different from anywhere else, there may be a higher rate of people on acid or mushies (which you seem to consider a lesser evil) but there is no way that
people are less fucked up.
What about parents who use presription drugs all the time and get hooked on those? anti-depressants, steroids, valium , pain killers and what not?
Anti depressants (whilst I vehemently disagree with the way they are currently used like candies and the balm to all problems) can often improve a parents relationship with a child – nobody wants a mother/father who is chronically depressed. As for the rest – an addict no matter what their poison is still an addict. I certainly wouldn’t agree to have my child around someone who was doped up on benzos or painkillers all the time, I watched my grandmother (who I was not allowed to stay with alone, nor did we visit often) battle valium addiction and can remember exactly what she looked like and knowing it wasn’t normal. If I can help it I won’t have my children around high people –
any kind of high.
Originally posted by Dj ScAtTeRfAcE
She told me that he had just got out of a mental hospital, was meant to be spending the day with his kids but was running around trying to score pot.
That is quite possibly the saddest thing I have heard in a while
Putting scoring pot ahead of time with his kids
Originally posted by quiet roar
I know someone who gave their 12 year old girl a pill. At the time the kid said she stole it.. but 2 years down the track I discovered that the father gave it to her.
I think this is DISGUSTING.
WTF? Nobody said anything about giving children drugs. And frankly, the implication that this relates to children being around people who are on drugs really pisses me off. Fuck off!!!
You know – it is related, a follow on question from would/do you do drugs in front of your kids? is would/do you give your children drugs?
From the post quoted in yours:
Originally posted by shakra
The whole reason this fucked up situation came about was due to people discussing and using in front of the kid in the first place.
Looks related to me
Let’s face it, it does happen (hopefully not often). Nowhere in that post was the comparison made between people who take drugs and are parents to people who give drugs to their kids.