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Eh, this doesn't really seem fitting in DC, but I'll still chime in.

I have a feeling that since my blood is in my kid, they will make a few mistakes and do some experimenting. Weed is the least of my worries. If my kid smokes weed every day and loves it, sweet. If he never smokes, sweet. That is his choice, and I think he can make that choice at a fair age. Obviously if he is 10 smoking a few joints a day i will try to interfere, but it's about maturity in my view.

The question in my mind is what would I do if I found my child with a needle...
 
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ya man. it doesnt seem as fucked up when i do it, but if i caught my son or daughter i'd probably be heartbroken. having kids of my own is a long way away for me. i wonder if i'll someday be the polar opposite of how i am now, as it seems that's how it works out a lot of the time.
 
I have a child now. My fiancee and I have an 11 month old daughter. It's not as hard as they told you it would be, btw. Your life doesn't end, etc. In fact, my life is much better after having our daughter.

Anyway, I'm sure there will come a time when she is curious about drugs. And marijuana would be the least of my worries for her when that time comes. I would rather her smoke marijuana than experiment with hard drugs.

And I don't believe marijuana is the "gateway drug". In fact, marijuana was around the last drug I tried.

I'd obviously rather my daughter to not use drugs at all, but let's be real here, it will likely happen. She will experiment. I can see it now. Walking into her bedroom 16 years from now and smelling freshly smoked bud. I'd sit down with her and tell her not to be scared to be honest with me. And inform her about marijuana (real facts, not propaganda).

We will see when the time comes. She's only 11 months old, though. So I got awhile to worry about that. haha.
 
I wouldn't have a problem with it, as long as my kid wasn't depending on weed too much.
 
I would probably make the rule that there will be no toking under my roof. If i find it ill flush it, if i smell it youll be grounded for the weekend (ie. not going out at all). Just keep it out of my sight.

Once they were older (at least eighteen y/o) i would probably let them smoke at home as long as i couldnt see it (in their room) and they werent just bringing friends over to get high. I would probably talk to them about addiction and the dangers of other drugs at this time. I would encourage them that if they ever felt they had a substance abuse issue, to just talk to me about it. There would be no punishment, only help and support.

I might still be toking by the time i have kids, but i would be very cautious of keeping it secret. Hypocritical i know..
 
i wouldn't like it if my kids smoked weed, it'd be one story if i could say "i smoked weed and i turned out fine" but i smoked weed and ended up being a junkie/in and out of institutions.

that said i don't plan on having kids any time soon, i'm 23 and figure that can wait a good 10-15 years (i do want kids eventually though, basically out of ego, like "i want to pass my genes down")
 
i wouldn't like it if my kids smoked weed, it'd be one story if i could say "i smoked weed and i turned out fine" but i smoked weed and ended up being a junkie/in and out of institutions.

Sounds like that whole "gateway" theory. How can you be sure weed led you to become a junkie?

Maybe you would have become a junkie regardless of whether you used weed or not. Just sayin'...
 
shit, if it's my kids i don't really give a shit whether or not it 100 WITHOUT A DOUBT led me to being a junkie, but addiction is passed in the genes and i wouldn't want my kids going down my same path.
and i definitely think weed played a role in me getting into downers in general by leaving me with anxiety problems i didn't have prior to being a smoker.
bud is not as harmless as the pot culture loves to promote it as, for most people it's harmless but it can without a doubt cause issues for some.
 
I'd be surprised if I had a kid and he didn't ever start smoking. Most of my family is from Kentucky so almost everyone in my family smokes, alot of them grow too, it's in my blood. In the town I live in there's more smokers/druggies than sober people. My dad just turned a blind eye to my smoking and didn't let me know he didn't mind until I turned 18. As long as I don't let smoking get in the way of holding down a job and being productive he doesn't care. I'd probably do the same, although I don't know If I'd wait till 18, maybe like 15 or somewhere around there.
 
I wouldn't have a problem with it but I wouldn't want them to start until they were at least 16 or so, if it started interfering in their life too much I'd probably have a talk with them and let them know how boring people who do nothing but smoke weed are as you get older.

I'd also inform them that while I think it's harmless for the most part, I think that if it's leaned on too much too early in life it can create problems down the line, mainly by accelerating any addictive tendencies they may have. I think weed is probably the safest drug out there and don't have a problem with others using it, I've chosen not to use it anymore because these days it just gives me anxiety attacks.
 
ITT: talk about parenting in relation to drugs.

How did your parents deal with your drug use?

They learnt to accept it, except, now they don't let me drink too much coz i OD'ed on benzos booze and codeine.... but i guess theyre pretty liberal compared to most


How would you deal with your kids drug use?

I would accept him experimenting with weed at 15-16, xtc and hallucinogens a few years later... but i would not put up with methamphetamine, cocaien or opiate use

How do you feel about parents who use when they have kids at home?

It depends on the age of the child, i think that if the child is old enough to know whats going on, then thats wrong... even weed...

For those who arent a parent yet but someday will be:
How has using drugs swayed your judgement as to how you would view your childs use if they were to start using? Or has your use swayed your judgement at all?

not a parent

Also, feel free to just say what's on your mind when it comes to parenting and drugs.

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My dad stopped all drugs/drinking for about 20 years (the entire time my sister and I were minors).
Started smoking pot again around the time his parents died around 5 years ago.
He's a really great husband to my mom, she's disabled, he takes care of her AND works 2 jobs.

I drink & smoke with him now. It's cool. I get kinda annoyed though, when we get together (about 2x/week) it's like he's on a race to get even more fucked up than he is right now. Like, it doesn't matter if he's smoked so much weed that he can't get any higher (and he's talking to trees), he wants more. And what, he can barely walk straight? How about another shot of jameson? And sometimes when he comes to my house he wants to stay FOREVER and it's like, I wanna go out and do something but I can't because he's here and he's not in driving condition.

My mom stays quiet about everything, she pretends not to know. I know that if she had a major problem with weed she'd say something, but her main reason for not trying it herself (it would do her WONDERS, she's constantly in pain and nauseated :( ) is because it's illegal.
I hope that proposition passes here in November to legalize it.

I was out on the side smoking one day and as I was leaving through the side gate, he was walking out there to smoke himself. That's when we discovered that both of us smoke pot. After that, well, I started finding buds that looked totally different from mine in my stash. Thought it was leftovers from before or whatever. Turns out he was sneaking pot into my stash. Ha.

While I was growing up though, both parents were anti-drug/alcohol (mostly due to religious beliefs). Which is fine with me, I think kids should be TAUGHT about things (not have them pushed onto them) and then when they become adults they can make their own informed decision.

I don't think people should get super fucked up in front of their kids. Like, no doing lines on the kitchen counter when they're around. Or whatever. That's not cool. Get a babysitter for the weekend, go have some fun.

When I have children I'll probably try to teach them about everything, and let them talk to my dad because he's done half the drugs out there (big hippie back in the day). Before I tried ANYTHING I'd hear experiences, good AND bad, from him re: LSD, opium, pot, peyote, meth, speed, whatever. I don't think it impacted me negatively, or caused me to start smoking. In fact, if I have an idea of doing anything more serious than pot (usually out of curiosity), I'll just ask him what he thought of it. He gives me an honest opinion - good & bad, hell he'll tell me a whole trip, and about 99% of the time that's enough for me. I don't need to try it anymore because I know what it does already. Once they're like 16 or 17 if they wanna smoke a joint once in a while that's fine. A little older mushrooms or whatever. That's about all I'll tolerate though. Not big on needles or pills.
 
Badly when I was 15 or 16. My brother went through my computer and read a convo between me and a friend talking about smoking weed. He told my parents, then I vaguely remember sitting down as my dad, mum and brother all shouted and swore at me for a while, saying it could of been laced with other stuff (!) and being grounded for a while and having a curfew of 4pm.. It just taught me to be more sneaky and sly.

That was a while ago though! A few weeks ago a friend and I ended up smoking some lovely weed with my dad and got him incredibly high. "Fuccck I haven't smoked this kind of stuff since '89", hahah.

I hope in the future when I have kids to be much more open and honest about drugs and cut the bullshit. I'd teach them moderation and encourage them to not go too nuts if they start to experiment.
 
My mom was cool with it for the most part, but my dad was anything but. I think it just pissed him off how indiscreet I was about it and never tried to hide it. My mom's main concern was me getting "ripped off" or "busted" lol.

As for how I'd handle it if I were a parent (not gonna happen), I'd venture to say that I'd give all my kids the most accurate information I can so they can make rational decisions. I'd definitely steer them away from highly-addictive drugs like heroin and crack, but would honestly not be too angry if they smoked pot or popped a pill now and again. If their school work or attitude started to suffer, it'd be a different story...

I don't really think it's a great idea to use drugs in front of your kids (or even worse, WITH THEM). I think of it as an adult thing (like drinking, sex and other "mature" activities), so it's kind of annoying to see parents flaunting their drug use in front of kids who look up to them. It's also illegal, so if someone can't be discreet about it, they're not being all that responsible in my eyes.
 
My 19 yr old son doesn't smoke, drink, pop pills or slam dope. He doesn't hate the fact that I use pills & smoke weed. In fact he told me the other night -- "Dad, you don't smell like you've been smoking marijuana. You smell like you ARE marijuana!!" -- I take that as a compliment...I am 1 proud weed smoker!!
 
You know, some of yall who talk about how you would be OK with smokin weed in the house or around your kids once you have kids....Or that you would be cool with your teenager smokin weed, or doin other drugs....

I just got one thing to point out, and it aint about MY opinion of none of this.

Its the risk you take when as a parent you keep drugs in the house or around your kids, or allow them to use drugs in the house or even worse use with them.

You dont realize just how dangerous it can be until you come closer to a situation where some shit could really go down.

For example. I love smokin weed. I had to stop over a yr ago when i got on probation, but I def. will start smokin again someday once i get off probation.

But the thing is...I am pregnant now, and soon my job, my role in life, is gonna be Mama, not lacey k who can do watever she want.

I am on methadone, and in NJ, its a state law that any baby born positive for methadone, means that the hospital has to notify DYFS (division of youth & family services, basically child protective services.)

So, i aint really worried, but the fact is that DYFS might be involved in my life for a while.

So as much as i would LOVE to be able to smoke bud once I get off probation....

Imagine if they came to my house for a routine random visit and took a piss test (which they do sometimes, as a suprise on the spot type thing) and i pissed dirty for weed?


Obviously not all of yall, got to deal with somethin like that.

But just the fact that you got drugs in your house is hard enough, but USING in your house....

Just imagine this situation.

You are smokin a blunt in your bedroom at night...Your baby is in the crib in its nursery next door. you and your man/woman is about to go to bed and just havin a little puff before bed....And for watever reason, cuz you never fuckin know especially with the crazy neighbors that always seem to be around, the cops come to the door to ask you about (your loud music, your car parked on the wrong side of the street that is blocking your neighbors parking spot, or maybe even becuz somethin you had NOTHING to do with so you cant prevent it--maybe the wifebeater 2 houses down really fucked up his wife this time and someone heard it and called it in, so they are asking around door to door if anybody heard anything to see if there is any witnesses to the crime)....And you open the door just a crack and talk to them, and they smell bud...

And then you, a perfectly loving, capable, and definately competent parent, are in all kind of hot water with DYFS and family court becuz you were doin somethin private, away from your kid....But the kid was in the house with you. And you are the parent.

Or again....

Teenagers can be real assholes....So yall have a bigass fight, one of many that will prolly go down before their teenagerhood is over....And you know how evil kids can get when they fueled up by hormones and frustration n'all that....So your kid that you wanted to be "Cool Dad" with, is busy schemin up the ULTIMATE "FUCK YOU , GUYS!" And you find yourself in trouble when he rats you out to the cops, or to his teacher, or who the fuck ever, "My mom and dad smoke WEED! and they dont even try to HIDE it from me!"

Sure its a shitty, horrible thing to do to a parent but i have heard many parents have that happen to them. teenagers can be real assholes, capable of doin shit to screw you over, piss you off, and make you want to kill them like you can never imagine til you see how far they can go. As much as you raise your kid to "hate pigs" and never talk to the cops, you never know wat they will do when its a situation like they REALLY REALLY REALLY want THEIR WAY about somethin that you refuse to compromise on, or they decided they TOTALLY HATE YOU, MOM!!! becuz of some stupid argument...And they do shit that aint well-thought-out in no type of way, and can REALLY end up screwin over your whole family.

So im sayin , you cant say , "oh, MY kid would NEVER do that! If i had a kid i would raise him not to ever talk to cops! MY kid would never...." and so on. Becuz they capable of some REALLLLY stupid shit.


Or, like teenagers do....They might brag to their friends...."My mom is so cool, she lets us smoke weed in the house", or maybe you even go for the role of "Super, really cool hip mom" and let your son AND his friends smoke in the house. And maybe you know that YOUR kid is cool and can keep it on the low, but maybe his FRIENDS aint. And maybe his friend goes home stankin like bud, and his uppity, old fashioned, ultra-anti-drug folks smell him and be like damn, you high! you on MARIJUANA! Take this piss test right now! We are goin over to Marquise's house RIGHT NOW to talk to his mother and see if she knows wat her son and his friends are doin over there!

And then the parents go over to talk to you...and the house stanks like bud...in the damn LIVIN ROOM...and they realize....SHE KNEW they were doin this, she LET them do it....

And then you in trouble once again.....

Or maybe your kid posts pics of bud on his facebook account like the dumbass young kid she is, or in some other way she lets people know that she smokes at home in the house and when somebody tries to get on her ass about it, she goes "my dad KNOWS, and he LETS me smoke, so mind your own fuckin bizness!"

you never know how word is gonna get out there, kids got a tendency to talk even when they dont mean to, and ESPECIALLY to not think about how their talkin can affect others.


and maybe raisin your kid to be SUPER secret about it, to treat it like some high level confidentail CIA shit, might help--but the attitudes that yall suggestin here sure dont sound like that. It sounds alot more like "Im a proud weed smoker, and Ima let my kid smoke weed, and smoke weed in the house if they want to, and Ima smoke weed with em, and its gonna be great!"

But you gotta think about the CONSEQUENCES of this....

Honestly.....I hate to say it, becuz if my son or daughter ended up bein a weed smoker, i would like to be able to let my kid smoke in the house and do it safely...But the truth is that now that I am actually gonna be a parent FOR REAL and not just "hypothetical parent", i see it different....And truth is, I feel that its kind of irresponsible to allow that kind of shit. Becuz you risking your parental rights, and your house. by allowin them to DO and POSSESS drugs inside the house its on you if the cops end up ever findin shit....And if YOU keep weed inside the house too...Lord have mercy on your family if some shit goes down. Your kid could get arrested or investigated, a warrant could get brought to your house and when they search shit, they find your stash as well as your kids....And now YOU are a "unfit parent".....

And it dont matter how good of a parent you REALLY are. Becuz the fact that you smoke weed in the house, let your kid smoke weed in the house, keep weed in the house, let your kid keep weed in the house, or smoke with your kid, will ALL make you look terrible in court. It dont matter how good of a parent YOU know that you are....Becuz to the people judgin who are only outsiders lookin in, you are a BAD parent.

So no matter how much we all know weed is harmless for the most part...however much we would all like to be able to make our kid comfortable and say "sure kid smoke in the house , rather have yuo do it here than be out somewhere else, or in a car or somethin and get in trouble...." The fact of allowin that kinda shit, or even havin drugs in the house, even on the OFF chance that some of the wrong people just maybe MIGHT find out, puts your family at risk of gettin tore apart.

So it comes down to, are you willing to risk that?

Like i said. You might be the best mom or dad in the world. you could be totally capable and a definately "fit" mother or father. You could be loving and caring and nurturing and all that shit.

but the fact of you gettin caught having drugs in your house , when a child also lives in the house...And especially using drugs in the house, or around your kid, or in front of your kid, or WITH your kid worst of all...just totally washes all that down the drain and makes you look like a horrible parent in the courts eyes. it sucks but its the way it is.

So as much as i love to smoke....as much as I want all those things I said....I aint gonna do it, not as a parent, not no time soon. Once DYFS is out of my life, and AFAIK, they dont get too involved with the methadone reports but just do a routine checkup and investigation, etc, and once I get off probation, then maybe Ill smoke--away from the house, and i sure as hell aint gonna keep my shit in the house. Ill figure out a hidin place on the property, somewhere safe and LOCKED...And i def. aint gonna smoke AROUND my kid. Kids in bed, sleeping already? great...But I aint smokin in the house, not in my room, not nowhere that anybody MIGHT MAYBE catch a wiff of the smell and call the cops even if its a .0001% chance. I dont wanna be high around the baby, and all that stuff. It dont matter that *I* know i can still be a safe responsible mom if i am rocking the baby to sleep after smokin a little L, becuz as far as any caseworker for DYFS, cop, or family court judge is concerned, I cant.

When it comes down to it in the end....My kid is the most important. WAY more important than any drugs. If i can get high from time to time, away from my child, and know that they are safe and sound, that there aint one little speck of drugs in the house that we live in, I hope i get the chance to indulge once in a while.

But I aint willing to risk my house and my family and my rights as a parent just becuz i wanna keep smokin weed. Like i said--it dont matter wat the truth really is, becuz any authority type person who saw you lettin your kid smoke in the house is just gonna see "endangering the welfare of a minor" by "encouraging drug use", etc. So as much as we all know that technically there really aint a whole lot wrong with it, legally you gotta cover your ass at all times.

A parent should always be loving, understanding, there for their kid....they should always be kind and approachable...never too harsh or scary makin a kid too afraid to come to them if they had a problem or question....i think all that goes without sayin...But there is way too much of this "friends" parenting goin on these days...Parents AINT friends, they are parents, and parents and children AINT on the same level. There needs to be a divide in some way, becuz not everything is appropraite to share with your kids.

There aint gotta be secrets and shit like that, it aint gonna be some kind of big wall between yall. But just sayin, there gotta be a understanding of wat kind of shit is ADULT stuff, shit that dont need to get shared, or really SHOULDNT get shared, with your kids. Your 5 year old dont need to know that the cigarette you smoke at bed time is marijuana and mommy smokes it becuz it makes her back hurt less at night. In a ideal world you COULD share that with your kid but in this one at least, you cant becuz of all the possible consequences if the kid repeats it at school, etc....And even once they are older and you know they smoke...I aint sure how I exactly feel about smoking WITH the kid....If he came home high i would sure as hell cook him up a big bangin meal to eat and some nice dessert and tease him a lil ....But I just aint sure about the using drugs with my kid part. It just honestly feels a lil bit irresponsible to me, until at least they are over 18. then its less of a gray area and i think it would be OK, but not til then.

The fantasy world of "Well, i wish MY parents had been like this, so when I am a parent Ima be super-cool!" dont really work out so good in real life. becuz once u a real parent there is so much more shit u got to worry about, so many responsiblities on the table that u are in charge of, and u gotta keep the welfare and safety of your kid as your #1 priority at ALL times....It dont leave alot of room for bein the "fun mom", you feel me?
 
/\/\/\/\ Here's the thing that still irritates me after 41 yrs of tokin = I could have a child in the house [my 'child' is now an adult] playing in his bedroom. I could be out in the living room, drunker than a monkey, music blasting & the heat shows up.
They see there's not 1 speck of doobage in the place, but I'm hammered & the wife isn't. All the cops would say/do -- "Could you please turn the volume down on your music? & you best not get behind-the-wheel of your car or we'll slap a DUI on your ass!!"...."Have a nice night & please keep the music down." Then I end-up dead from cirrhosis of the liver...after years of beating the wife for not getting me another beer quick enough.
Hundreds of thousands of people die annually from alcohol. How many die from weed exclusively? 0!! How many 'wife-beaters' are there from being too stoned? I don't have the statistics, but my gut instinct would be possibly in the single-digits...if any. How many people toke & get pissed-off? How many people drink & get pissed-off? Plus, the mom & dad can be smoking 1 cig after another...just polluting the poor kids' lungs from 2nd-hand smoke. Do the authorities say anything about that? Hell no!!
I really don't know what it's going to take to open-up the eyes of these politicians who still insist on keeping cannabis illegal. Nothing learned from the Prohibition Act of 1919? When La Cosa Nostra made millions of $$$ boot-legging...including old man Kennedy!!
Society will always want their mind-altering substances & will find a way to obtain them. This insane Drug War is a joke. All it's doing is lining the pockets of street thugs, drug lords, gangs, & enterprising individuals...& will continue to do so until society realizes this Drug War is never-ending. I thought in the mid-1970s, we were leaning towards outright legalization, when a number of States [Colorado made 'under 1 oz = $25 citation'] started decriminalizing. I thought by 1980, we'd be buying weed in the liquor stores. Then along comes Nancy Reagan & her nonsense "Just Say NO!!" horseshit. Set us back 50 years!! So, I thought possibly by 1990? No again!! OK, by the 21st century, people & politicians will 'see the light'. No once again. Now, in 2010, we're still dealing with this shit?
I'll go to my grave without seeing Legalization...is how I see it nowadays!! :(
 

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I hear you yo and it sucks...I agree 100%. the shitty thing is that as a individual you can choose to act against these laws and say fuck them...But once you are a parent you risk everything to do somethin that should be a natural right in the first place. Its just a fucked situation. i hate thinkin that becuz SOMEBODY who COULD POSSIBLY maybe fuck me over and get my parental rights suspended would think i was a "bad mom" if they found out i smoked bud, it means I cant do it....Becuz i lived my whole life sayin "fuckem!" Not worryin the fuck about who thinks wat about a damn thing i did.....never carin, to the point of bein self destructive plenty of times . And i wish i could just throw up that middle finger and say, you think i aint a good mother cuz I smoke? WELL FUCK YOU!! just WATCH me smoke this L and be a great mom, take great care of my kid, be loving and caring and there for them in every way and out-mother every damn drunkass alcoholic bitch and pill poppin mothers little helper housewife.....

But the sad reality is that out of fear i got to just keep my mouth shut and not do somethin that should be a given right of bein a human...somethin that can ease the pain i feel so i coul take less opiates....becuz you know..THOSE are just A OK...(na, when it comes to methadone, somehow, Im just a dirty junkie..Fucked if I do fucked if i dont. the soccer moms can pop Oxys all day and still be seen as mom of the year....but I take my meth. as prescribed and dont get high , ...for legit problems....and i am gettin the stink eye from doctors and people who know that I am on it while pregnant....So in my case, neither one is better, but it seems like for most people its just fine for them to pop Vic's , etc....but smoke some weed and you are endangering a child....etc....)

I am with you 100% yo....I am somebody who always says "whether reality is how it SHOULD be or not, you got to act appropriate to how reality IS....Whether or not it shouldnt or should be that way, you gotta recognize the facts of how it is and act with that in mind..." So i gotta eat my own words here buckle down and just accept the fact that I love my kid to death and s/he aint even born yet, and i cant do nothing to lose him or her ever....I just love em too much....And that means that i got to make sacrifices but thats parenthood.....I just feel sad to know that somethin so harmless and helpful, nd somethin that i enjoyed my whole life very much, is somethin that could get my kid took away . Im willing to act accordin to that reality, but its a shitty reality is wat I think we both sayin .
 
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