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Marmalade said:
I take it you've had him pegged since being in the womb and before that. You really are an oracle, as has been mentioned before here.

I think I am more informed than you are? On Will Self, I know I am. It doesn't make my opinion RIGHT though. My opinion is just that, an opinion. I believe it makes it a valid and informed one though. Currently, based on what you've written so far, yours is neither.
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No, I was taken in by people like him quite easily in my teens. Then my thinking functions developed and I saw right through him. Maybe one day yours will too and you'll see what most other people do, instead of just resigning their opinions to the bin as they must surely not 'get it'. You are just proving my point, that you will always think you are more informed than I am and place more stock in your opinion, because I surely must not get it because I haven't filled whichever criteria you have set for the day. He just oozes that he thinks he is clever, everything he does is geared towards this persona by emulating people he considers clever, nothing he does is for genunine enjoyment.
 
monstanoodle said:
Oh be quiet and type something constructive.
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I already did that <<< few pages back monsta. I think you would do better to direct that at marmz, but you won't. This debate is largely pointless any way. Everyone has largely berated, mocked and bullied the one person who disagrees with anyone on this issue on this whole site out of the thread already.
 
Marmalade said:
Everything Will Self does and says is carefully crafted and thought about to play into this image of him as an intelligent person who should be followed - he surrounds himself with books and art to a ridiculous extent, he smokes pipes, he takes a liberal stance on everything he can etc.
LOL, just looked at your edits. So Self is now being accused of entirely micro manufacturing a carefully his image, right down to a pipe.

Wow. seriously, wow. okay. you win.

He's a charlatan, it's all been done to impress and garner the respect of anyone who'll worship him.

You've won me over. I think it was the quick IQ test you benevolently gave me there which sold it. I bow to your superiour grey matter. I have no other option.

I think you're awesome.
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Yes it is the same thing you repeatedly do marmz. You have this image of yourself in your head that you go to great lengths to be true to in real life. Everything you do is an effort to conform to it. It is obvious to a lot of people, but apparently not even to yourself who is doing it. You could quite easily have an IQ well above mine, I don't know. What I do know is that your functions are geared towards feeling and sensing before you even begin to think rationally about anything.
 
Bullied? Do you not feel just a little bit uncomfortable using that term?

If you disagree with people, they'll tell you why. If you disagree with everyone, everyone will tell you why you're wrong. You're disagreeing with everyone yet failing to state a case strong enough to convince them to agree with you. Jancrow has pointed it out to you many times, it is inevitable people will react this way. I'm not sure why you have a problem with it, and if it's so predictable, why do it, or allow it to continue? To call it bullying is nonsense.

I have no idea why you're wasting your time with it, just deliberately putting your opinion out there when it's pointless in your mind. It's like you want an excuse to justify why you feel marginalised generally, so you go down this route to justify why youre feeling that way, rather than look at the real reason, whatever that may be

[edit] I like Will Self. This has nothing to do with my IQ, it's because he's a really interesting bloke who writes beautiful abstract fiction which I enjoy reading because it prompts me to think about subjects I care about via allegory and fairly subversive and often pervy narrative. I liked Will mainly because of his fiction. I later became interested in his political opinions through that.

Anyway. I'll take my average IQ out of the thread for now. I'm feeling a little overwhelmed by the level of debate and I'm struggling to understand the concepts and terminology you're using and introducing to justify why you're the smart one. I'm not sure how I've been able to keep up with your complex analysis this far really. Being so gullible, this is really hard going n all .. *cough*
 
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Vitriolic table tennis indeed! Like BJ says, you can't argue with MSB's kind of inferiority complex - oops, forgot, her opinions dont count because of her sexuality. There's a lot of comments I could make about your preposterous prattling but you've been fed enough. So I'll just say, never mind, Blunty, we forgive you. It's what you crave and, like Christians, we have to get our kicks somewhere. Now, in exchange, perhaps you can lose the big 'me me me' detract and try, as Kate asks, to show your love instead. Then you'll have a better chance of understanding what it's all about. That's all.
 
Marmalade said:
Bullied? Do you not feel just a little bit uncomfortable using that term?

If you disagree with people, they'll tell you why. If you disagree with everyone, everyone will tell you why you're wrong. You're disagreeing with everyone yet failing to state a case strong enough to convince them to agree with you. Jancrow has pointed out to you many times, it is inevitable people will react this way. I'm not sure why you have a problem with it, and if it's so predictable, why do it, or allow it to continue? To call it bullying is nonsense.

I have no idea why you're wasting your time with it, just deliberately putting your opinion out there when it's pointless in your mind. It's like you want an excuse to justify why you feel marginalised generally, so you go down this route to justify why youre feeling that way, rather than look at the real reason, whatever that may be
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It's been said before marmz, but do you just put words in a hat and pull them out at random then write them up on here or what? I really want to know the method behind the madness. I don't give a shit if the majority of people on BL disagree with me, you are not representative of anywhere but BL, so get it out of your thick skull that you are in any way more right because all you do is subject yourself to people who agree with you.
 
charlie clean said:
Vitriolic table tennis indeed! Like BJ says, you can't argue with MSB's kind of inferiority complex - oops, forgot, her opinions dont count because of her sexuality. There's a lot of comments I could make about your preposterous prattling but you've been fed enough. So I'll just say, never mind, Blunty, we forgive you. It's what you crave and, like Christians, we have to get our kicks somewhere. Now, in exchange, perhaps you can lose the big 'me me me' detract and try, as Kate asks, to show your love instead. Then you'll have a better chance of understanding what it's all about. That's all.
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I didn't say her opinions don't count because of her sexuality. I merely pointed out that as someone who craves acceptance for a differing opinion on what the reality of this world is to most, she could at least give other people that same respect. It's just common courtesy. Why you must label disagreement or dislike of you as an inferiority complex I don't know, but I guess it's very easy to do when your surrounded by people of your own ilk. I am getting a bit tired of arguing with Will Self wannabes.
 
OK. You don't have an inferiority complex and your redbrick was better than Oxbridge. Your masterful prose puts Shakespeare to shame, you've a greater capacity for logic than Einstein and a Christ-like humility. You're always right about everything and all the Will Self imitations, 'c***s' and victim of obscure, double-barrelled syndromes you find on Wikipedia aren't fit to lick your boots. Who loves ya, baby?
 
Man, I've come back to EADD after a long break and every single thread in EADD is MSB arguing with people, why?!
 
Because he can?
Because he has issues in life he can take vengence upon on here?
Eeee I dunno... Silly reasons.
Because the last word must be his?..... Dot dot dot..... dot........... dot.............. d.o.t. . . . . .
 
Inso said:
Man, I've come back to EADD after a long break and every single thread in EADD is MSB arguing with people, why?!
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You'll notice that quite often I make identical points to other people, but I have a group of people who follow me round incessantly jumping on every word I say. Of all the people on here, you've actually been one of the most agreeable with me lately across quite a few threads.

monstanoodle said:
Because he can?
Because he has issues in life he can take vengence upon on here?
Eeee I dunno... Silly reasons.
Because the last word must be his?..... Dot dot dot..... dot........... dot.............. d.o.t. . . . . .
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Don't try and paint me as something i'm not monsta. I know you're desperate to speak your mind after ages holding your tongue as a mod, but if this is what was on it, I think it's best left in there.

charlie clean said:
OK. You don't have an inferiority complex and your redbrick was better than Oxbridge. Your masterful prose puts Shakespeare to shame, you've a greater capacity for logic than Einstein and a Christ-like humility. You're always right about everything and all the Will Self imitations, 'c***s' and victim of obscure, double-barrelled syndromes you find on Wikipedia aren't fit to lick your boots. Who loves ya, baby?
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I haven't said any of these things... you're the one that keeps writing like you're some sort of reincarnation of Will, even though he hasn't even died yet. You are right about not being fit to lick my boots though ;)
 
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Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
you are just suffering from the Dunning Kruger effect.
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your wiki link said:
Historical references

Although the Dunning–Kruger effect was put forward in 1999, David Dunning and Justin Kruger have quoted Charles Darwin ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge")[3] and Bertrand Russell ("One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision")[4] as authors who have recognised the phenomenon.
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It's rare to find someone as confident and certain in their views as you, MSB.
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
Such an easy and obvious point to make knock... I did wonder when you'd show up to protect the maidens though.
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Exactly the response I was expecting! Have you looked in the mirror though?

PS Why do you continue to derail threads? I thought you might take the hint when I created the Welfare State thread, that it would only be polite to start a new thread for off-topic discussion. It almost looks wilful.
 
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No, it's always you who starts with the abuse then acts put-upon when your victims reply. If they don't, you smirk in triumph. "I'm fed up of arguing", you say - sure you are. About the 4th time you've made that Will Self quip. You probably think it a clever putdown when, to anyone who's read WS, it simply exposes you yet again as a specious dimwit. If I think you've an inferiority complex, as everything revolves around you, it must be because you dislike me. See if you can find solipsist sophist syndrome on Wikipedia. Love, peace and no more, please.
 
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