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Drug dealer etiquette...

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I had a really dealer who was even kind enough to refund if I wasn't happy. He always made sure he was selling good gear etc.. Then he decided to quit doing it, fair call. He gave all his clients to a mate of his, only his mate wasn't into selling quality stuff and after one trial it was game over...Now I've been drug free for 3 years. Probably the best thing that happened, being acquired to a level of quality and having fuck all friends to score.
 
I don't think the OP meant he/she was going to rat out. I think it was more a hypothetical which would seem like a realistic risk indeed. People don't care for each other and if the user is a mad junkie who is suffering from not being able to use, anything can happen, especially in a fragile, pissed off frame of mind.

In all my experiences with this sort of stuff, a dealer will usually help a buyer out if he/she is running low on supply or is quitting the game. I have seen dealers hand over customer details to other would-be dealers once they were leaving the game for good...I am talking entire lists here, not just one guy. Going against most people here, I think it would be rude to not help out and lead the user on to someone else...thing is, all of my relationships with dealers have been friendly and sometimes even a little personal, so I could be coming from a different stand point to everyone else here.

Just ask, "hey, do you know anyone else that could hook me up?". He would more than likely know more than one person and I think would give you the contact if you built rapport with him. If he is just a hi and bye transaction that you met on the street corner, then he probably won't give you any contact or even a heads up that he was going out, but this does not seem to be the case with regards to the OP.

I agree with this, but just to add on it even though I think if you have a good rapport with your dealer he/she is absolutely in their right not to hand over details to any customer if they don't want to. Remember dealers suppliers may only deal in larger quantities, if the buyer regularly gets personal quantities it may not be in the suppliers interest or worth their time dealing in small amounts at the risk of adding clients they do not know personally.
 
I got you OP, youre not saying that you would definitely rat the dealer out if they didnt help you find a replacement, youre just saying more along the lines of that they obviously will know other people who have used said drug and at the very least can make a phone call or two.

And if you've been a reliable customer who never gave them junkie bullshit, damn straight I'd ask the dealer if he knew anyone else. More often than not they'll just say they dont anyway but that's why I like to get in a position of leverage with drug dealers whenever possible. When you bring more to their table then just money, they're more likely to help you out. Anyone can give them money, not anyone can give them connections to other things, somewhat of a friendship, just little shit here and there they remember.
 
How do you or your dealer know that by referring you to another dealer, the new dealer could start selling you both products and your original dealer loses you as a customer completely.
 
Hunter, from what you've described I don't think you should push your luck and be asking for anything. It sounds like you're giving dealers way too much credit and treating them like GPs who are bound by actual, written codes of conduct.

Dealers are not exactly known for being honorable or giving two two fucks about their "clients" - although as at least one poster has pointed out there are exceptions, as with anything, but those are very much the exceptions to the rule. That's my experience anyway.

If this "code" you mention is unwritten, then what makes you think it exists at all?
 
Thankfully at least a few people understood my point.

This situation has come up in enough conversations I've had over the last few years I thought it worth posting because as responses to the thread have shown it is a polarizing topic.

Without too much detail I'll explain a classic example of this. A friend of a friend hooks you up with someone who you already knew before but just not in your direct circle. You are a model customer. Not talking about desperate smack heads ect... Now they sell 2 products that they obtain in large quantities and only use one particular substance. They know many people in the scene who are heavy users of both. They stop selling one of the 2. You know they still use it and are around it allot.
The issue is that I /we have 0 issue with not selling substance 2 anymore. We all make life choices. The issue is that even though you may have only been purchasing small amounts of what they stop selling you know they still use it and can easily hook you up if they could be fucked. The brush off is the main issue here. No, sorry play dumb no no one yada yada which you know is complete crap.

Keep in mind for this that the 'dealer' knows you are very wealthy. Money is no issue.

Now if you're only buying comparatively small amounts regularly then you're small fish. My point is that instead of the brush off you should get; a, contact was busted I literally have no contact anymore or b, you only buy small amounts it's not worth me passing you on to someone who you can only buy large amounts off. My expectation is that a personable explanation is warranted.

That's it.

Both dealer and long term customer have both made the dealing safe. They have made allot of money out of this and are getting out of only 1 product.

As someone mentioned above I am just raising the point that if you were a strung out clueless asshole you could fuck this persons life up. Your not so you wouldn't do that.

The expectation is that you should not be brushed off like a moron.

Flame away
 
sounds like what you are asking for, is just a level of politeness/respect, that doesn't have to necessarily be only applicable to drug dealing
 
^ exactly.

Both dealer and customer take risks. Basic human decency is really not much to ask.

* nb. I sound like a whining bitch. Poor me. It's nothing like that at all. It's easy to find contacts. It's just this attitude of being untouchable when they at least in this case are not. Seems to go on quite allot and if I were them I would see it as a real risk
 
^ is there REALLY such a thing? Been a desperate pot head long time ago and as long as you keep your contact and buy all the time no issue.
People in rehabs for Marijuana I still have trouble taking seriously. I thought I was addicted myself in my 20's but as much as I thought I was addicted I could stop for a month when oversees ect...

Pot dealers as I said are notoriously annoying to deal with
 
There is a lot that I can say to you which I won't hunter, however, if you think a pot dealer is difficult to deal with, then you must be pretty inexperienced.
 
Thankfully at least a few people understood my point.

This situation has come up in enough conversations I've had over the last few years I thought it worth posting because as responses to the thread have shown it is a polarizing topic.

Without too much detail I'll explain a classic example of this. A friend of a friend hooks you up with someone who you already knew before but just not in your direct circle. You are a model customer. Not talking about desperate smack heads ect... Now they sell 2 products that they obtain in large quantities and only use one particular substance. They know many people in the scene who are heavy users of both. They stop selling one of the 2. You know they still use it and are around it allot.
The issue is that I /we have 0 issue with not selling substance 2 anymore. We all make life choices. The issue is that even though you may have only been purchasing small amounts of what they stop selling you know they still use it and can easily hook you up if they could be fucked. The brush off is the main issue here. No, sorry play dumb no no one yada yada which you know is complete crap.

Keep in mind for this that the 'dealer' knows you are very wealthy. Money is no issue.

Now if you're only buying comparatively small amounts regularly then you're small fish. My point is that instead of the brush off you should get; a, contact was busted I literally have no contact anymore or b, you only buy small amounts it's not worth me passing you on to someone who you can only buy large amounts off. My expectation is that a personable explanation is warranted.

That's it.

Both dealer and long term customer have both made the dealing safe. They have made allot of money out of this and are getting out of only 1 product.

As someone mentioned above I am just raising the point that if you were a strung out clueless asshole you could fuck this persons life up. Your not so you wouldn't do that.

The expectation is that you should not be brushed off like a moron.

Flame away

Have you even thought about offering payment, or some kind of compensation, in return for him taking the time, effort and risk to help you out?

I think if they're a friend or even a relatively close acquaintance, it would be the decent thing to do, no arguing there. But if they're someone you wouldn't be interacting with regularly except for the purpose of purchasing drugs, then they really have no obligation to you. I know that even as someone who's never dealt, it's frustrating having random people think that because you use or can obtain a substance they want, that you owe it to them to go out of your way to waste your time tracking it down for them when they don't even display any real gratitude, let alone tangible payment or transaction, for doing so. If even just as a user people constantly act like they have a right to your time and energy without offering anything in return, I imagine it would be exponentially more so as a dealer. Stop and think about how annoying it would be to quit dealing, only to have people to keep nagging you to spend your time and energy and to risk your freedom and safety getting them drugs, even though you wouldn't even be getting anything out of it.
 
OP I have to say that I disagree with your view that a drug dealer owes you anything, this includes either a referral to another dealer when they stop selling or even an explanation as to why they cannot or will not provide that.

Ultimately buying drugs is a business transaction, nothing more and nothing less. I don't understand why you feel a drug dealer owes anything because of money they made out of you, they supplied you with a product you were happy to pay that money for and as I see things as long as they meet that obligation then they owe you nothing. I might like a specific type of bread at the local bakery that is hard to source, and have paid said bakery quite a sum over the years I was purchasing it, if that bakery closed down or elected to stop baking that bread, it would be ludicrous to suggest there is a responsibility on the part of the baker to refer me to someplace else I could get that bread. I don't know why I chose bread for my example, but you could take any product that is sold in an every day business transaction and what you are suggesting would be laughed at, why should drugs be any different?

It would be equally laughable to suggest if a drug dealers client chose to stop taking a drug for any reason, that they should then provide the dealer with another customer for the drug, or an explanation as to why this is not possible.

It seems to me that you are trying to make an argument that due to the illegal nature of drugs, a supplier of drugs owes the customer something for them remaining discrete or not dobbing them in or something, which I don't get. Selling drugs is a more illegal activity than using them, but one can still easily get a person in trouble with the knowledge that they use drugs, for example telling a spouse or an employer or perhaps even Law Enforcement etc. Why does the dealer owe the customer more for their discretion than the customer owes the dealer for the same discretion? That doesn't make sense to me.

I can easily think of ten different reasons that your dealer might no longer stock a drug any more and refuse to put you, and perhaps anyone else, on to other contacts for that drug. Their reasoning is really not important, they do not owe you an explanation, just as you would not owe them an explanation if you one day simply stopped purchasing drugs from them.

All that said, I don't think there is anything wrong with you asking your dealer, do you happen to know anyone who could provide me with this product you no longer stock, but if he wont he doesn't owe you an explanation period. I really don't understand what you even hope to get out of their explanation? I mean, if they aren't passing you on to a new guy what does it matter why not? It isn't happening any way.

I might look at this issue a little differently if they were a friend before they were a dealer or something like that, but as far as a straight up business relationships go a drug dealer owes you nothing but a decent quality product at a fair price.

I don't know what your issue with cannabis dealers is, perhaps the majority of your cannabis purchasing experiences were in High School or something? I have known a good number of very reliable cannabis retailers and wholesalers in my career as a cannabis consumer and can honestly say that while I have dealt with more people for cannabis than anything else, very few have ever had an ego about it or tried to fuck people over. While I wouldn't go so far as to say that either of those things are the norm for dealers of harder drugs, in my experience they are more common with them.

It honestly sounds to me that you have a fairly limited amount of experience in purchasing drugs, you can no longer obtain something you enjoy and are now unreasonably bitter about your former contacts unwillingness to "handball" you onto somebody else.
 
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If a dealers stops selling, leave them alone and stay away. They may be unstable, know something that you don't, or may have captured the attention of law enforcement. Attempt to network, find another source, or transform disappointment into an opportunity for self improvement.
 
Politely ask the dealer if he knows of anyone who could help you out, and accept whatever response you get. Finished. Done. End of story. Nothing more to see here folks.
 
There are many factors at play.

Some dealers will cut people off if they don't trust them.

If a dealer gets in legal trouble they may lay low.

It depends on the person as well as you.

Dealers often come and go. Some stop and pick up again.

Dealers sometimes change what they push. They also move to avoid heat.

Often times dealers look out for themselves as they are taking a huge risk.
 
Snitching in my book is the worst thing you can do and if any dealers find out. Watch your back because if you don't get a bullet you may well wish you had! NO A DEALER SHOULDN'T REFER YOU TO ANOTHER!!! Screw that!!! I wouldn't be happy is someone knocked on my door asking to buy drugs and Mr xxx sent me. One big F U! And chased off my front yard with a baseball bat! Think yourself lucky its not a glock
 
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