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Having one of those days where absolutely nothing is working like it should and work is dreadful. But I guess soon I'll be able to go home and bury myself in a mountain of cocaine, so that should make it better.
 
deficiT said:
Having one of those days where absolutely nothing is working like it should and work is dreadful. But I guess soon I'll be able to go home and bury myself in a mountain of cocaine, so that should make it better.
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I wish I could use cocaine more responsibility, and that it was cheaper, but I'm afraid I kind of lose control over myself with it and wind up spending a lot of money on it and other things and acting extremely wrecklessly... so I very rarely do it. Probably the only stimulant I will ever do again, but extremely rarely. Tried it recently for the first time in years, I had only really used crack for a while... and its much healthier all around. Crack is wack completely but good coke isn't too hard, and I maintain better control than with crack, where I might blow 2k in a bad session over just a few days. I hope to never smoke crack again. Anyway, also wish good cocaine wasn't so hard to come by here in theUSA, its nothing I've ever felt worth ordering, and copping coke in the USA usually sucks, tho I got sort of lucky last time.

I guess I'm also glad I don't live somewhere its super prevalent and cheap, for other reasons.
 
Zephyn said:
I wish I could use cocaine more responsibility, and that it was cheaper, but I'm afraid I kind of lose control over myself with it and wind up spending a lot of money on it and other things and acting extremely wrecklessly... so I very rarely do it. Probably the only stimulant I will ever do again, but extremely rarely. Tried it recently for the first time in years, I had only really used crack for a while... and its much healthier all around. Crack is wack completely but good coke isn't too hard, and I maintain better control than with crack, where I might blow 2k in a bad session over just a few days. I hope to never smoke crack again. Anyway, also wish good cocaine wasn't so hard to come by here in theUSA, its nothing I've ever felt worth ordering, and copping coke in the USA usually sucks, tho I got sort of lucky last time.

I guess I'm also glad I don't live somewhere its super prevalent and cheap, for other reasons.
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Yeah, I've always enjoyed coke occasionally. Quality is hit or miss but if it's good, it's great to have around. I usually will be able to stop myself from getting more after whatever I've got is gone. Sadly, it's the other people involved with it that make it suck. It gets stepped on, and ppl are sketchy and unreliable. Like my dealer at this exact moment, leaving me fucking hanging with my dick in my hands. Oh well, she'll hopefully get back to me soon but I hate wasting my time.
 
deficiT said:
Yeah, I've always enjoyed coke occasionally. Quality is hit or miss but if it's good, it's great to have around. I usually will be able to stop myself from getting more after whatever I've got is gone. Sadly, it's the other people involved with it that make it suck. It gets stepped on, and ppl are sketchy and unreliable. Like my dealer at this exact moment, leaving me fucking hanging with my dick in my hands. Oh well, she'll hopefully get back to me soon but I hate wasting my time.
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like most drugs for me, its one of the kind of, if i have it, im using it until its gone. but yeah, coke i dunno, i might get more once or twice, but with crack maybe 100 times.
 
I've about to pick up a benzo habit once again. I'm addicted to buprenorphine and it somedays just doesn't feel to be doing anything to me. Adding in some benzos actullay brings back some of that opioid causing warmth and the cozyfeeling like you were living in supersoft cotton wool. Not comparable to heroin obviosuly but there's reslly nice synergy there.

Especially now whean i have lowered my bupe dose 2mg/day (though IVed) which i take as single dose in the morning. In the evenig im not really withdrawling but i crave more subutex/buprenorphine I could have ever imagined. I started t otake 1mg alprazolam in the evenings to keep the cravings at bay. Works incredibely well but now it doesn't do job anymore unless i up the dose to 2mg. Maybe i shiould just accept i need more bupre and try to take 2mg in the mornings and 1mg in the evening or something similar.
i¨ve got full blown addiction to buprenorphine and i don't want to get once again addicted to benzos.
 
LivingOnValium said:
I've about to pick up a benzo habit once again. I'm addicted to buprenorphine and it somedays just doesn't feel to be doing anything to me. Adding in some benzos actullay brings back some of that opioid causing warmth and the cozyfeeling like you were living in supersoft cotton wool. Not comparable to heroin obviosuly but there's reslly nice synergy there.

Especially now whean i have lowered my bupe dose 2mg/day (though IVed) which i take as single dose in the morning. In the evenig im not really withdrawling but i crave more subutex/buprenorphine I could have ever imagined. I started t otake 1mg alprazolam in the evenings to keep the cravings at bay. Works incredibely well but now it doesn't do job anymore unless i up the dose to 2mg. Maybe i shiould just accept i need more bupre and try to take 2mg in the mornings and 1mg in the evening or something similar.
i¨ve got full blown addiction to buprenorphine and i don't want to get once again addicted to benzos.
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Theres no way to sustain what you are trying to do. Both benzos and bupe build tolerance extremely quickly. You will get a few weeks at each before having to double your dose and will reach a ceiling with eventually (the bupe way faster than the benzos). Id quit while you are ahead.
 
Zephyn said:
Theres no way to sustain what you are trying to do. Both benzos and bupe build tolerance extremely quickly. You will get a few weeks at each before having to double your dose and will reach a ceiling with eventually (the bupe way faster than the benzos). Id quit while you are ahead.
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I've actually come down from 8mg IV bupre to 2mg. And now it starts to feel body fights the dose reduction not get lower any further from this dose. I',m still quite positive it just takes time for my body get used to it. Maybe even couple of weeks. This the first really hard sticking point i've come across on bupe reducing journey this far.
 
LivingOnValium said:
I've actually come down from 8mg IV bupre to 2mg. And now it starts to feel body fights the dose reduction not get lower any further from this dose. I',m still quite positive it just takes time for my body get used to it. Maybe even couple of weeks. This the first really hard sticking point i've come across on bupe reducing journey this far.
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Adding more habits on while your body gets used to the lower dose of bupe still wont help in the long run though. Isnt the point of lowering the bupe to not be chasing the high?

I will not judge, but my honest take here is if you are wanting to get high from the bupe youre prescribed, lowering the dose is going to be counterproductive when it had less effects and you start doing things like mix benzos into the habit which seems to be the direction youre headed. Why not just stick to a dose youre satisfied with? Quitting clearly isnt in the plans here when youre starting to sub in extra habits to chase the high.

Or, the best way to get high from bupe again, would be to do a total reset on tolerance by quitting entirely for awhile. Then, the only way that could be maintained is by NOT using daily.

It seems like youve been on a path to quitting though, whats got you down here aside from the bupe not working at the lower dose?
 
Outlier said:
Adding more habits on while your body gets used to the lower dose of bupe still wont help in the long run though. Isnt the point of lowering the bupe to not be chasing the high?

I will not judge, but my honest take here is if you are wanting to get high from the bupe youre prescribed, lowering the dose is going to be counterproductive when it had less effects and you start doing things like mix benzos into the habit which seems to be the direction youre headed. Why not just stick to a dose youre satisfied with? Quitting clearly isnt in the plans here when youre starting to sub in extra habits to chase the high.

Or, the best way to get high from bupe again, would be to do a total reset on tolerance by quitting entirely for awhile. Then, the only way that could be maintained is by NOT using daily.

It seems like youve been on a path to quitting though, whats got you down here aside from the bupe not working at the lower dose?
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Thanks for the wise words.

For me it¨s all about the money atm. I'm on line (just waiting) to get into a suboxone maintenance treatment. At moment i get Subutex from the streets. And the price of a one 8mg tablet is high enough to justify the IV use (100% bioavailybilty instead of 30%). When i get into the program things will be totally different. I can finally stop injecting and i don't have rely on benzos to get me through the evenings when i usually start to feel unwell.
 
LivingOnValium said:
Thanks for the wise words.

For me it¨s all about the money atm. I'm on line (just waiting) to get into a suboxone maintenance treatment. At moment i get Subutex from the streets. And the price of a one 8mg tablet is high enough to justify the IV use (100% bioavailybilty instead of 30%). When i get into the program things will be totally different. I can finally stop injecting and i don't have rely on benzos to get me through the evenings when i usually start to feel unwell.
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That sounds good. I was gonna ask you if youre from Finland because subutex is so big there, but just looked at your profile and yea youre from Helsinki! There are a couple other people here from Finland as well.

How long do you have to wait to get on suboxone?
 
once when we were kids, my friend and i were smoking weed on the the back patio. you could see the front door through the window. thought i saw someone walk in. the yard was full of these skinny trees. we started trying to hide behind them. standing sideways behind one for a second, realizing it wasn’t cutting it, then running to another and attempting the same. did this for a minute of sheer panic before my friend said, “hold on.”
 
Seriously, fuck my goddam life. GI Dr wants to do a colonoscopy and an endoscopy, I'm gonna tell him to eat shit. I'd rather die than suffer through more of their torture. If I was still reliant on them for drugs I would, but thank god for the internet. I'd have killed myself years ago if I had to live on cannabis and what I could afford locally or get scripted. Heroin saved my life. Or has at least kept me alive long enough to keep having a chance. Every day is a success, no matter how much I want to die, a day is a day.
 
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