Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
The visuals descend very quickly, yes. Within 30 seconds you are tripping pretty hard.
yeah, like DMT some people need to get zonked or they cant really enjoy it. But if you are compulsive in smoking it you will prob be compulsive in shooting it. I know I was (but this was DMT)SmargFlap said:With my IM trial I knew I wouldn't get much, but I wanted only the slightest hint of effect that time around.
Considering my discomfort with the first IV experience, I was sort of wondering if perhaps a slightly higher dose might bring me into it more and therefor provide a better experience, or if I should feel my way around IM before doing that again.
I've smoked it in the past with positive results but I go through it too fast... because the tendency has been to continue redosing to keep the high.
which is why I said it wont matter if its IV or freebased. if you to carry th experience you will repetitively dose your self.SmargFlap said:The continued dosing is more similar to chasing a feeling like with harder drugs than you'd like to think, in my opinion.
When we smoked through a large amount of DPT it was almost purely in chasing a pleasurable sensation. The body rush was great, music sounded great, and as it faded the immediate impulse was to get back to where we just were. Similar to something like coke, though obviously very different.
It's actually less compulsive in the immediate sense than something like heroin, because in that case no matter how hard you try you can't really get the rush again without waiting a few hours. Trying too hard just leads to problems.
horrible. I don't see how people can enjoy psychedelics when there nasal cavity feels like it is burning.swilow said:^I just sniff it. Bit simpler...
Youkai said:which is why I said it wont matter if its IV or freebased. if you to carry th experience you will repetitively dose your self.
And hey man, just cause you read here about how wonderful it is doesn't necessarily mean its meant for you ya know? these powerful tryptamine's arn't really all that pleasant when you try to force an experience out of them. If you have your heart set on it then I would suggest a 35-45mg IM, its a slower on set and longer smoothed out peak and over al a more gentle yet entirely still intense experience.
SmargFlap said:I understand that totally. Maybe two or three years ago I would have considered myself to be very experienced with these kinds of things, the type of person who enjoys what many just aren't comfortable with. But it has been a while and I'm just feeling my way around these things right now.
I think freebased may be the way for me. It seems to be the most consistently pleasant. IV, in most of what I've read, tends towards scary. IM sounds like a good way to go but my syringes aren't big enough. :/
What I'm looking for is one of two things: A fully overwhelming experience which I will be fully immersed in, or a light and fun experience where I can get some giggles and be done with it. In-between is where I tend to get frustrated.
Maybe even freebase won't be quite what I remember. After all it has been maybe 5 years and I'm a little less adventurous. I should maybe stick to things like the cactus or maybe give 2C-B a try. The more purely recreational stuff.
Youkai said:horrible. I don't see how people can enjoy psychedelics when there nasal cavity feels like it is burning.![]()
Youkai said:you sure your needles arn't large enough? Iv never had a problem using standard insulin needles
Iv noticed taht as well, I felt like someone beat me with baseball bats all over my leggs and arms.Gaian Planes said:If you have a good bit of fat, then the insulin pins won't work (depending on the location). Especially the shorties. Personally, the shorties work pretty fine for my in my quad or delt (very little body fat there). I prefer shooting subQ though with tryptamines (or IV but thats a different thing), because they usually leave my muscles a bit tense/sore and I dont like that.