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Tryptamines [DPT Subthread] DPT Dosage & Methods of Administration

With my IM trial I knew I wouldn't get much, but I wanted only the slightest hint of effect that time around.

Considering my discomfort with the first IV experience, I was sort of wondering if perhaps a slightly higher dose might bring me into it more and therefor provide a better experience, or if I should feel my way around IM before doing that again.

I've smoked it in the past with positive results but I go through it too fast... because the tendency has been to continue redosing to keep the high.
 
SmargFlap said:
With my IM trial I knew I wouldn't get much, but I wanted only the slightest hint of effect that time around.

Considering my discomfort with the first IV experience, I was sort of wondering if perhaps a slightly higher dose might bring me into it more and therefor provide a better experience, or if I should feel my way around IM before doing that again.

I've smoked it in the past with positive results but I go through it too fast... because the tendency has been to continue redosing to keep the high.
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yeah, like DMT some people need to get zonked or they cant really enjoy it. But if you are compulsive in smoking it you will prob be compulsive in shooting it. I know I was (but this was DMT)
 
I don't think I'd call smoking DMT compulsive, imo. Just my experience with it...smoking a bunch in an afternoon is really a special experience. You feel eventually to a point where each flash is 'rebirthing' you...like washed clean. Its not a compulsive thing like redosing smack every night or taking another whiff of shards.
 
thats your opinion. bottom line, you are still continually chasing a drug induced altered state repetitively over and over again. Now how you view this on a personal level and how you justify it is your shit. But from a purely objectional view that is what you are doing.

I still love you though.
 
The continued dosing is more similar to chasing a feeling like with harder drugs than you'd like to think, in my opinion.

When we smoked through a large amount of DPT it was almost purely in chasing a pleasurable sensation. The body rush was great, music sounded great, and as it faded the immediate impulse was to get back to where we just were. Similar to something like coke, though obviously very different.

It's actually less compulsive in the immediate sense than something like heroin, because in that case no matter how hard you try you can't really get the rush again without waiting a few hours. Trying too hard just leads to problems.
 
SmargFlap said:
The continued dosing is more similar to chasing a feeling like with harder drugs than you'd like to think, in my opinion.

When we smoked through a large amount of DPT it was almost purely in chasing a pleasurable sensation. The body rush was great, music sounded great, and as it faded the immediate impulse was to get back to where we just were. Similar to something like coke, though obviously very different.

It's actually less compulsive in the immediate sense than something like heroin, because in that case no matter how hard you try you can't really get the rush again without waiting a few hours. Trying too hard just leads to problems.
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which is why I said it wont matter if its IV or freebased. if you to carry th experience you will repetitively dose your self.

And hey man, just cause you read here about how wonderful it is doesn't necessarily mean its meant for you ya know? these powerful tryptamine's arn't really all that pleasant when you try to force an experience out of them. If you have your heart set on it then I would suggest a 35-45mg IM, its a slower on set and longer smoothed out peak and over al a more gentle yet entirely still intense experience.
 
swilow said:
^I just sniff it. Bit simpler...
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horrible. I don't see how people can enjoy psychedelics when there nasal cavity feels like it is burning. :(
 
Youkai said:
which is why I said it wont matter if its IV or freebased. if you to carry th experience you will repetitively dose your self.

And hey man, just cause you read here about how wonderful it is doesn't necessarily mean its meant for you ya know? these powerful tryptamine's arn't really all that pleasant when you try to force an experience out of them. If you have your heart set on it then I would suggest a 35-45mg IM, its a slower on set and longer smoothed out peak and over al a more gentle yet entirely still intense experience.
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I understand that totally. Maybe two or three years ago I would have considered myself to be very experienced with these kinds of things, the type of person who enjoys what many just aren't comfortable with. But it has been a while and I'm just feeling my way around these things right now.

I think freebased may be the way for me. It seems to be the most consistently pleasant. IV, in most of what I've read, tends towards scary. IM sounds like a good way to go but my syringes aren't big enough. :/

What I'm looking for is one of two things: A fully overwhelming experience which I will be fully immersed in, or a light and fun experience where I can get some giggles and be done with it. In-between is where I tend to get frustrated.

Maybe even freebase won't be quite what I remember. After all it has been maybe 5 years and I'm a little less adventurous. I should maybe stick to things like the cactus or maybe give 2C-B a try. The more purely recreational stuff.
 
SmargFlap said:
I understand that totally. Maybe two or three years ago I would have considered myself to be very experienced with these kinds of things, the type of person who enjoys what many just aren't comfortable with. But it has been a while and I'm just feeling my way around these things right now.

I think freebased may be the way for me. It seems to be the most consistently pleasant. IV, in most of what I've read, tends towards scary. IM sounds like a good way to go but my syringes aren't big enough. :/

What I'm looking for is one of two things: A fully overwhelming experience which I will be fully immersed in, or a light and fun experience where I can get some giggles and be done with it. In-between is where I tend to get frustrated.

Maybe even freebase won't be quite what I remember. After all it has been maybe 5 years and I'm a little less adventurous. I should maybe stick to things like the cactus or maybe give 2C-B a try. The more purely recreational stuff.
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you sure your needles arn't large enough? Iv never had a problem using standard insulin needles. try it in the upper arm rather then the thigh.

But as you said, DPT may just not be for you anymore. Id suggest give 2c-b a try. I find it to be wonderful, also if you want that kinda intence rush of DPT, IV 2c-b has been claimed to be REALLY beautiful.
 
Youkai said:
horrible. I don't see how people can enjoy psychedelics when there nasal cavity feels like it is burning. :(
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I don't generally sniff but DPT is quite mild I reckon; just got a rather vile drip. I've had worse...
 
yeah I won't sniff it because of the drip. I don't mind ANY burning from any chemicals I've taken (2CB, 2CE, 2CT2). I do mind disgusting chemicals dripping down into the back of my throat and burning my esophagus.
 
Youkai said:
you sure your needles arn't large enough? Iv never had a problem using standard insulin needles
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For IM injection, you do want slightly larger needles. Depending on your own body, the insulin syringes may or may not go deep enough. If they don't, you're getting a subcutaneous injection, which is a perfectly fine way to adminster drugs, only slightly different from IM in the subjective experience that you'll have after etting it.
 
If you have a good bit of fat, then the insulin pins won't work (depending on the location). Especially the shorties. Personally, the shorties work pretty fine for my in my quad or delt (very little body fat there). I prefer shooting subQ though with tryptamines (or IV but thats a different thing), because they usually leave my muscles a bit tense/sore and I dont like that.
 
Gaian Planes said:
If you have a good bit of fat, then the insulin pins won't work (depending on the location). Especially the shorties. Personally, the shorties work pretty fine for my in my quad or delt (very little body fat there). I prefer shooting subQ though with tryptamines (or IV but thats a different thing), because they usually leave my muscles a bit tense/sore and I dont like that.
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Iv noticed taht as well, I felt like someone beat me with baseball bats all over my leggs and arms.
 
yeah it doesn't really feel healthy, does it? I think that is some of the muscle fibers getting 'burned' (lol that sounds real technical :D).

IM does have slightly different pharmacodynamics compared to subcutaneous administration. IM is a bit shorter of a comeup (more steep).
 
For IV I do like 10-15 units (so like .1ml), because I like to squirt the stuff in quick so I can pull out the needle and have it capped and thrown aside before the trip starts.

For subcutaneous and IM I use .5-.75ml because a higher dilution = less soreness.
 
I guess I actually meant to say that my SYRINGES aren't big enough. The needles were plenty long to inject straight into the buttock... and if it wasn't my muscle, it was subq and I noticed no problem. We bought a box of 100 disposables which are 1/2cc, which for me means a max of 10 mg since I'm storing in a solution which contains 20mg/ml.

I'll maybe look into 2C-B next time I have some disposable income. I've recently kicked the H bomb, so if there were something that could start off as lovely as that does then come in with a psychedelic punch rather than a nap... I'd have some wonderful vacation days ahead of me.

DPT appealed primarily because A) I had a great time with it before, B) it's short lived, C) it's easily obtainable and not expensive.
 
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