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Dosing on a broken heart

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Mitchi

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Yeah, life sucks.

I can't really figure out if it would go okay, or maybe go totally wrong. thoughts or experiences are most welcome

Substance is 4-HO-MIPT, 20 mg. give or take
 
I've had mixed results tripping while in a depressive mood. Sometimes it helps me realize just how trivial the things I'm upset over really are and that those feelings will pass easily if I just let them go. Other times I get so wrapped up in whatever it is causing my bad mood that I wish I hadn't taken anything at all.

More often than not I'd say I've had positive experiences, but only when I'm willing to face the root of the problem and think it through. If I try to avoid it and get lost in fractals and such the trip tends to go south pretty quickly.
 
The only thing you can count on with psychedelics is their unpredictability. Dosing in an unstable mood, you could have an insightful emotional catharsis or an existential terror ride.
 
Psychedelics can be a wonderful way to figure out what is causing problems in your life. Most of the time its your fault. Noticing that can be a great thing, because of how it is to change such things :)
 
Go in with clear intentions about why you want to trip, and prepare yourself for the inevitable difficult encounter. I think that's the surest way of achieving clearance, having a beneficial experience or allowing yourself to move on. Good luck buddy. Life sure does suck sometimes, but it all gets better with time. :)
 
Mitchi said:
Yeah, life sucks.

I can't really figure out if it would go okay, or maybe go totally wrong. thoughts or experiences are most welcome

Substance is 4-HO-MIPT, 20 mg. give or take
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Psychedelics are usually at their best for dealing with problems where the solution is a change in attitude. That's what they do best, change attitudes, that's what you need. If the problem is you don't have a job, tripping isn't going to help, but your problem isn't like that. So this seems like the sort of situation where tripping would come in handy.

From your posts, you seem mentally stable. You don't seem creepy or obsessive, which would be the major red flag for tripping right now, presumably you're just hurt. So I think you'll be fine. Life is very long, this too shall pass.
 
It could really go either way, but in case you haven't had to deal with it before, when it doesn't work it's AWFUL
Being depressed on psychedelics is one of the worst feelings ever
 
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It could really go either way, but in case you haven't had to deal with it before, when it doesn't work it's AWFUL
Being depressed on psychedelics is one of the worst feelings ever
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Would you say that feeling passes once the afterglow sets in ? Or isn't there an afterglow ?
 
The afterglow could be bad too.

Some compounds are gentler on the (metaphorical) heart than others. I personally wouldn't recommend a tryptamine for this purpose. I think phenethylamines are more gentle on fragile emotional states. I have personally had much luck letting go of people with the 2c-x series.
 
Yes unpredictable, also don't take a whole lot of releasers liks 6-APB, IMO, unless you are relatively resilient to such effects and after-effects. But everyone is bound to be a bit weak with a broken heart. Be careful, very hit or miss.
 
Lots of stuff I can use here, great.

I will change 4-HO-MIPT to 2C-C. 40 mg. should be the way to go i guess?. Have never tried it. Just been laying around.

It could really go either way, but in case you haven't had to deal with it before, when it doesn't work it's AWFUL
Being depressed on psychedelics is one of the worst feelings ever
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Yeah I know. On 4-HO-MET and MDMA i got so depressed that my flowers went down 90 degrees (they bent down you know). However, I'm not depressed nor anxious right now

This almost seems exciting. New drug and new set :)

And thank you for the compliment atara ;)

Good luck buddy
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Thanks man
 
Yeah I was going to suggest doing it with a phenethylamine instead, they're much more forgiving. That said, it still could go downhill if you get hung up on the emotions of a broken heart. Doesn't seem like that's going to be the case, seeing as you're not depressed or anything, but something to keep in mind when working things through if that's still the primary goal of your trip.
 
I too agree that a phenethylamine would be the best bet. But my opinion on dosing on a broken heart is kind of iffy. The biggest lesson I have learned from psychedelics is to let go, and that's simply to get through the come up, the turbulence, to get where you want. Possibly this would apply to you? This is just turbulence on the way to the paradise of your choosing :D
 
Interesting that all of you would choose a phenethylamine. I would think that mushrooms could be very helpful as well, but maybe too confronting? What is about tryptamines that you guys feel is harsher?

BTW, for some reason I have had very good experiences with ketamine and letting go, accepting and goodbyes. Deaths included. And you know, a broken heart can feel a lot like having someone near pass... but maybe that's just personal.

At any rate, do post your results. :)
 
I have experience with this and so do my friends. It really depends on how well you handle your mind and emotions sober. If you're a wreck sober then it'll be worse tripping and if you can deal with it at least a bit sober then tripping should provide you with some closure and other nice things.
 
Personally I would choose to go a touch lower with the 2c-c. Maybe 30-35mg. And I would use the experience as a way to let go of the bad feelings.

Good luck. We're with you.
 
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