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:) Do you think your coke usage is moderate? Seems like it's not. I've never been into coke too much, opioids are more my thing, I'm happier and more social on them too. I love the feeling but it's just unsustainable.
Good point, it's not moderate. I'm getting through an ounce a week. I used to love my opioids they have me the same kind of sociable feeling, but I'm using the coke for that now. I agree it's unsustainable. It's costing me £1200 per week.
 
Another thing about this is certain people just don't trust others, and this is one of the biggest factors in addicts. Some people rely on others to get through their life, they need the people around them to make them feel good and if the people around them are making them feel bad then they will just not stop trying to solve that problem. They trust people and think goodness is something everybody can attain and everybody deserves, so the addict in their life becomes a missing piece of their puzzle that they just have to find and make everything okay again. I think addicts have been hurt, and have seen the ugliness of the world, and have decided that this world is messed up and unfair and some of its puzzles will just never be solved and just don't care about being a living example of that idea for the more naive people of the world. I worry about people in my life, but I don't see things in that much of a moralistic way as I've gone through my 20s. It seems like nobody knows what the fuck they're doing and even happy people and normal people are participating in this big game where we pretend that we're part of something productive and good, and when you try to call it out and start to see that it's all just manipulation they get mad and don't want you to burst their bubble lest they confront the big meaningless mess we're in. I think drugs are the ultimate way to drop out of the game if you choose to see it as a total farce, and that's how I happen to see it lately. It feels disrespectful when they want you to play the game because they're unable to see why certain types of people are fed up with it and got a raw deal. When I'm deep in it it feels like the braver thing is to isolate myself and have a strike from reality, and feel emotions that are just inside my brain, not dependent on the mess we've all been forced into. Seems cowardly from the outside, but some people have just had enough and would rather disappoint the people they care about than pretend to care about a meaningless cruel and manipulative civilization. I just can't for the life of me see this world as a good thing, it is all about pleasing yourself by manipulating others, or if you're not as ambitious or cruel or perceptive, being manipulated and pleasing others. Neither way feels particularly noble, neither does living in a drugged out fantasy world where you don't care about your part in the world. But it's yours alone, and you don't need to engage with humanity to get the chemicals your brain is designed to crave. Feels like cheating which is kind of enticing if you don't like the game you're playing or feel you're above it. Drugged up rant over, thanks for considering this big ass wall of text. I still try to make the people around me happy, I'm a people pleaser through and through and try to bring laughs and happiness and helpfulness to everybody at work and in my life. But for whatever reason I draw a hard line when it comes to them wanting me to be happy myself for their own happiness. I can't help but think that insisting somebody think a certain way, even if it's to save their life or out of genuine concern, is just a way of them ignoring that suffering really is the bigger half of the human experience, like life is so good that everybody should love it and if they want out then they just don't understand it as well as they do.
Thank you for both of your very well thought out and put together posts. I actually got a family member to try a couple of lines last year and he said he could never do it again because he would end up hooked it made him feel that good. However, he just cut me out of his life. I'm going to write a longer reply to you this afternoon because you made so many good points and you made so much sense. I struggle with depression too, so cokr just takes that away. As things stand I honestly don't know if I'll ever stop, perhaps cutting down the amount I have could be a compromise. I enjoy using coke so much. I know I'm at a crossroads but, if I'm being honest I'm not sure I want to live a life without it just, as you said to fit in and make other people happy. I'll write a longer, more throughout rely this afternoon. Thank you so much for your replies you really made sense.
 
Thank you for both of your very well thought out and put together posts. I actually got a family member to try a couple of lines last year and he said he could never do it again because he would end up hooked it made him feel that good. However, he just cut me out of his life. I'm going to write a longer reply to you this afternoon because you made so many good points and you made so much sense. I struggle with depression too, so cokr just takes that away. As things stand I honestly don't know if I'll ever stop, perhaps cutting down the amount I have could be a compromise. I enjoy using coke so much. I know I'm at a crossroads but, if I'm being honest I'm not sure I want to live a life without it just, as you said to fit in and make other people happy. I'll write a longer, more throughout rely this afternoon. Thank you so much for your replies you really made sense.
Why u don't take less cardiotoxic, much longer lasting stimulants ? I hated spending hundreds on 1 hour lasting high, which made my heart, head and veins painful and also throbbing...For same price i was able to obtain much more potent, 10 times longer acting stims mostly dextro enantiomers of high quality amohetamine or methamphetamine.
Even modafinil in 2 doses of 200mg, first after waking up and second 6 hours later provides some people with nice mood lift, more motivation, desire to listen music, do some normal things that i am happy i was able to do without any procrastination and no dangerously painful headache after effects start to dimihish after many hours...400mg dose was as reinforcing as equivalent methylphenidate dose and 200mg Is like 10mg dextroamphetamine according to research...U can boost it with caffeine, monoaminergic and opioid like substances like tramadol and get things done, have fun and also effects lasting whole day...If u want super potent long acting and much stronger drug than cocaine because u are taking it only for getting high and to have as much fun as possible i would rather eat or snort meth.
 
Why u don't take less cardiotoxic, much longer lasting stimulants ? I hated spending hundreds on 1 hour lasting high, which made my heart, head and veins painful and also throbbing...For same price i was able to obtain much more potent, 10 times longer acting stims mostly dextro enantiomers of high quality amohetamine or methamphetamine.
Even modafinil in 2 doses of 200mg, first after waking up and second 6 hours later provides some people with nice mood lift, more motivation, desire to listen music, do some normal things that i am happy i was able to do without any procrastination and no dangerously painful headache after effects start to dimihish after many hours...400mg dose was as reinforcing as equivalent methylphenidate dose and 200mg Is like 10mg dextroamphetamine according to research...U can boost it with caffeine, monoaminergic and opioid like substances like tramadol and get things done, have fun and also effects lasting whole day...If u want super potent long acting and much stronger drug than cocaine because u are taking it only for getting high and to have as much fun as possible i would rather eat or snort meth.
Id love to try meth, but I don't know anyone who sells it here in my part of the UK. I've asked everyone I know to try and get some. My mate knows someone but he won't get it for me. I don't know how much meth is either so I'd be easily fooled. I'll try obtaining it via the dark web. I genuinely would love to try it. £1200 per week on coke is too much. My problem is when I take anything I don't know when to stop. If I could get meth id snort it too. I used to love most/methadone but that's gone off the scene locally too, which is a shame because it was cheap and better than coke in my opinion. I can get modafinil so I'll take your advice on that.
Thank you for your reply.
 
Id love to try meth, but I don't know anyone who sells it here in my part of the UK. I've asked everyone I know to try and get some. My mate knows someone but he won't get it for me. I don't know how much meth is either so I'd be easily fooled. I'll try obtaining it via the dark web. I genuinely would love to try it. £1200 per week on coke is too much. My problem is when I take anything I don't know when to stop. If I could get meth id snort it too. I used to love most/methadone but that's gone off the scene locally too, which is a shame because it was cheap and better than coke in my opinion. I can get modafinil so I'll take your advice on that.
Thank you for your reply.
Holy shit mate, I'm not big on giving people advice but in this case will urge you to give meth a major swerve

You need to quit stims, they are clearly not for you and are hugely corrosive drugs that are completely unsustainable especially for people who have zero control like yourself. Your mate who will not score meth for you is a true friend. Also the UK meth is notoriously shit but that's also good news for you because if people like you (no offence at all btw, I wasn't too different) get hold of a pure d-meth via pseudo method it could easily be game over essentially
 
Holy shit mate, I'm not big on giving people advice but in this case will urge you to give meth a major swerve

You need to quit stims, they are clearly not for you and are hugely corrosive drugs that are completely unsustainable especially for people who have zero control like yourself. Your mate who will not score meth for you is a true friend. Also the UK meth is notoriously shit but that's also good news for you because if people like you (no offence at all btw, I wasn't too different) get hold of a pure d-meth via pseudo method it could easily be game over essentially
Best u can do Is to don't take any stimulants maybe except caffeine in doses that are moodlifting and even healthy but too much of caffeine can be nasty too... Too much of modafinil Is something that Is harder to stop ( to stop Its effect than stopping coke or amphs. effects ). Use stimulants as a tool or add-on antidepressant to makes u able wake up and not feel like tired piece of shit.
They really can be your helping tool or poison u won't be able to control and that is very bad if stimulants control you and they are no longer helping tool for mood lift, getting things done....I am afraid cocaine can't be effective tool ( lasting 1 hour, such a overpriced drug ) and as a poison for fun it Is bad choice too...
Maybe try stimulating opioids or if u want, caffeine and modafinil are both great for mood lift, productivity, but they are much more controlable than recreational use of overrated cocaine or very powerful sedation meth. Stay normal, use functional stims, they help with mood too but won't destroy your life. I quit all street stimulants, sometimes i take modafinil or if i want energy i take caffeine with tramadol ( very mentaly stimulating opioid )...Good for pain but physicaly addictive...U just need to think about what u want from your drug to do, use it responsibly and control it ! Don't let it control you...
 
^^^ is that answer for me @WellTram ? I'm perfectly ok with my stim intake thesedays thanks and use very responsibly (occasional dex, occasional methylphendiate, occasional modafinil - I've had my bad scene with the stims though yeah

cocaine isn't a functional stim anywyay - people take it for the euphoria not the productivity, it's all about the party

Am not sure about you recommending stimulating opiates to people seeking stimulation though friend - not really harm reduction given many people's serious susceptibility to opiate addiction... a stimulation-seeker could easily develop an oxy habit for example. It's all well and good saying 'don't let it control you' but that's often not in many people's power as is very clear to see.

Best wishes mate
 
I'm so very grateful for all your responses. Thank you all. I need to have a long, hard soul search. My doctor knows about my habit, I told him honestly that coke is an amazing antidepressant for me. I think I will swerve meth. I think my best course of action is to cut down the amount of coke I'm having. I honestly don't think I want to stop it completely. I've gone 3 days without it last week and I was so depressed. As soon as I bought some I felt better before I even sorted it. Then after snorting it I felt like me again.
 
You're all very kind hearted and level headed people. You're the best people I've spoke to about this addiction because you all get it and understand. It's Monday afternoon here in the UK and I'm about as high as you can get on coke. I feel great, but also emotional. I think I feel guilty for all my family and friends. But, at the same time I feel like coke makes me a better person, and definitely more sociable. I am slowly losing friends and family though. But, not one of them has ever sat down and asked me why I do coke and how I feel. I think family and friends should draw closer to someone struggling with addiction not push them away, but I know that's a selfish way to think.
 
I'm so very grateful for all your responses. Thank you all. I need to have a long, hard soul search. My doctor knows about my habit, I told him honestly that coke is an amazing antidepressant for me. I think I will swerve meth. I think my best course of action is to cut down the amount of coke I'm having. I honestly don't think I want to stop it completely. I've gone 3 days without it last week and I was so depressed. As soon as I bought some I felt better before I even sorted it. Then after snorting it I felt like me again.
I guarantee that will soon change if you carry on friend - to the exact opposite

You're depressed when you haven't got any cos addiction bro
 
I believe that stopping completely is the only way to return to society, if that's what you want. I've realized that what is so frustrating about addiction and people trying to get you to stop is that it requires changing something that's been inside you even before your addiction. They can't fathom that you were absolutely miserable before the drugs in a way that goes beyond an addiction to feeling good, it's an addiction to feeling okay after years of really not liking life while people try to convince you to just ignore the problems and take whatever you can get from it. I've tried to explain to my friends so many times-- I appreciate the concern, but I am intelligent enough to be honest about this relationship I have to drugs. Like so many before me, both successful and unsuccessful and smart and dumb and good and bad people, this addiction has the potential to last for a much longer time than they would understand. I want to stop, but if I just stop without really wanting to then I am just putting the blinders on and it's all just having faith in life being good without really believing that. If I finally found a consistent and solitary way to hide away and defend myself after having felt vulnerable and helpless to the worst of life for years and years, then it might take years to get out of that. They see me in bad shape and want to help, but when I looked like I was in good shape I was similarly disengaged with life, just unaware that you could choose to drop out of it. So the only way out is a way forward, not going back to your prior lifestyle. These people don't understand that pushing your way forward and changing your outlook is an exceptionally challenging thing to do, they think it's all about appearances and not about how you feel. I think it's much easier to be healthy and productive to society if you are capable of lying to yourself. They aren't healthy and normal and comfortable because that's what they want more than anything, it's because that's the path of least resistance and they would not be able to handle the thought that we are ultimately alone and living a meaningless existence.

Here's the one way I see out of it. Dedicate yourself to curiosity even if it isn't immediately gratifying. The thing I regret most from coke is that it becomes the one thing you are totally into when you're on it. Do you have a belief in the importance of learning about the world and history and mankind? That was my reprieve when I wasn't aware of drugs, I was always trying to learn every perspective about the world in an attempt to at least understand it, and why it is so fucked up and how it got that way. Like I said, I use drugs because fundamentally I don't believe in humanity as being good just because I'm human. Life just feels like shitty servitude all the way down through history, even for the miserable people in charge, and I don't think we've been progressing towards anything this whole time, just going around in circles and unsuccessfully trying to get something meaningful out of pure chaos. But it almost feels better staying sharp and investigating the mess we're in-- not believing that it's good or worth being a part of, but just trying to understand what the fuck is happening without numbing yourself or giving in to it. Plenty of people are locked into certain ways of thinking, including addicts. I have a strong belief that breaking out of our own patterns and cycles is the only solace from this miserable world, doubting what you believe and rely on and looking for something more. You'll never be satisfied thinking like this, but you wouldn't be satisfied burying your head in the sand either. I think this is the best way to use your brain, questioning everything and examining life in a different way than you're supposed to. I questioned people's hatred of drugs and belief that they are a miserable dead end, and I will be paying that price for some time. But I believe someday I will once again be able to question my entire life and move past the things I take for granted and come out of it with a better understanding of life as a whole, without glorifying it or ignoring it.
 
I'm so very grateful for all your responses. Thank you all. I need to have a long, hard soul search. My doctor knows about my habit, I told him honestly that coke is an amazing antidepressant for me. I think I will swerve meth. I think my best course of action is to cut down the amount of coke I'm having. I honestly don't think I want to stop it completely. I've gone 3 days without it last week and I was so depressed. As soon as I bought some I felt better before I even sorted it. Then after snorting it I felt like me aga great,

^^^ is that answer for me @WellTram ? I'm perfectly ok with my stim intake thesedays thanks and use very responsibly (occasional dex, occasional methylphendiate, occasional modafinil - I've had my bad scene with the stims though yeah

cocaine isn't a functional stim anywyay - people take it for the euphoria not the productivity, it's all about the party

Am not sure about you recommending stimulating opiates to people seeking stimulation though friend - not really harm reduction given many people's serious susceptibility to opiate addiction... a stimulation-seeker could easily develop an oxy habit for example. It's all well and good saying 'don't let it control you' but that's often not in many people's power as is very clear to see.

Best wishes mate
U are addicted to cocaine, compound so bad for your body that not even official medicine found it usefull.
They rather developed other, longer lasting stims acting by same mechanism. Insanely expensive and psychologycaly very dissapointing drug ( if u can compare to your experience with other stimulant cocaine is something i definitely won't choose. Crack cocaine is even more damaging and without any usefulnes for anything. ) But i accept it, u love cocaine so take it for everything u want. Even much more potent stimulants won't steal your health and money as perfectly as cocaine will and if u won't stop or won't find better alternative u will loose everything. Your mind included. Mind, health, money, home...I provided solutions for example other drugs possibly presenting better substitutions. I told you about them and ok, do what u want and take cocaine for rest of your life because it's fun and u love it. I will take other stimulating substances, mood and motivation boosting meds, including energy boosting atypical opioid with prominent monoaminergic effects which are responsible for 70 % of the effects of this opioid. Much better for health taking combination of caffeine, modafinil and/or stimulating opioid + congnitive performance improving antidepressive and also some benzos for calming down if i overstinulate my body and mind.
Good luck i hope u will be fine and able to enjoy cocaine for a long, long time.
 
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Yeah, you're right.
on this occasion you're correct - I am right (it's rare but it does happen :)

seriously though - every single thing you've posted screams 'addicted' but also, in your own words even 'at a crossroads'

£1200 per week? that's a lot of cocaine (and I suspect not great quality too) - very dangerous and totally unsustainable levels for sure

Please learn from your family member and don't give hard drugs to anyone who has not indulged before (I'd extend that to anyone not addicted). I know you weren't thinking straight when you did that and I've done the same myself before I knew any better when young, ugh. Hard enough sorting out our own shit without the guilt of setting someone else off down a rocky path eh.

I don't think you'd be posting all this without knowing on some level that it's time to re-evaluate. I wish you all the very best and my inbox is open should you need to chat in private. Can't guarantee quick responses but I will eventually...
 
I are addicted to cocaine, compound so bad for your body that not even official medicine found it usefull.
They rather developed other, longer lasting stims acting by same mechanism. Insanely expensive and psychologycaly very dissapointing drug ( if u can compare to your experience with other stimulant cocaine is something i definitely won't choose. Crack cocaine is even more damaging and without any usefulnes for anything. ) But i accept it, u love cocaine so take it for everything u want. Even much more potent stimulants won't steal your health and money as perfectly as cocaine will and if u won't stop or won't find better alternative u will loose everything. Your mind included. Mind, health, money, home...I provided solutions for example other drugs possibly presenting better substitutions. I told you about them and ok, do what u want and take cocaine for rest of your life because it's fun and u love it. I will take other stimulating substances, mood and motivation boosting meds, including energy boosting atypical opioid with prominent monoaminergic effects which are responsible for 70 % of the effects of this opioid. Much better for health taking combination of caffeine, modafinil and/or stimulating opioid + congnitive performance improving antidepressive and also some benzos for calming down if i overstinulate my body and mind.
Good luck i hope u will be fine and able to enjoy cocaine for a long, long time.
I'm going to take your advice. I'm already on the verge of losing everything and I mean everything. This addiction crept up on me so fast I didn't see it coming, well I did I just didn't care. I've lost my brother, my 2 uncles and 3 friends so far. Thank you for your help.
 
on this occasion you're correct - I am right (it's rare but it does happen :)

seriously though - every single thing you've posted screams 'addicted' but also, in your own words even 'at a crossroads'

£1200 per week? that's a lot of cocaine (and I suspect not great quality too) - very dangerous and totally unsustainable levels for sure

Please learn from your family member and don't give hard drugs to anyone who has not indulged before (I'd extend that to anyone not addicted). I know you weren't thinking straight when you did that and I've done the same myself before I knew any better when young, ugh. Hard enough sorting out our own shit without the guilt of setting someone else off down a rocky path eh.

I don't think you'd be posting all this without knowing on some level that it's time to re-evaluate. I wish you all the very best and my inbox is open should you need to chat in private. Can't guarantee quick responses but I will eventually...
Thank you. You're right again. I know it's time to make a life changing decision and I'm just lost.
 
You're all very kind and very informed people and I can't thank you all enough. I've only bought enough for today earlier instead of enough for half the week.
 
Ok. After all of your advice I'm going to try and stop after tonight. I don't know how well it will go. I've ordered modafinil they'll be here Wednesday.
great news and good thinking, in your situation it's a gift to yourself and your loved ones

if you fall off the wagon....just climb right back onto it

start with 50mg modaf (less can definitely be more with that stuff and everyone responds differently. My optimal dose is around 70mg. I find 100 jittery and anything above 120m plain unpleasant, but YMMV) and don't think for one second you're getting a buzz from it at whatever dose, it doesn't work like that at all really
 
great news and good thinking, in your situation it's a gift to yourself and your loved ones

if you fall off the wagon....just climb right back onto it

start with 50mg modaf (less can definitely be more with that stuff and everyone responds differently. My optimal dose is around 70mg. I find 100 jittery and anything above 120m plain unpleasant, but YMMV) and don't think for one second you're getting a buzz from it at whatever dose, it doesn't work like that at all really
I'll be happy just knowing I've got something to take. You've all been great. 3 months ago I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and I think the coke caused that. I don't hear voices talking to me, they're always talking about me and it's terrifying. I honestly think the coke caused it. However, I still carried on using it like the idiot I am. I've already been diagnosed with emotionally unstable personality disorder for 10 years. I think it's that diagnosis that causes me to use drugs, well the symptoms of it. I will miss coke I'm not going to lie. But maybe one day I'll be happy without it. You guys have all spoke
 
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