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Does anybody do barbiturates any more?

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I know they are rarely prescribed and hard to find. They are also not the ideal recreational drugs. I'm just curious if they've disappeared completely. Nobody I've talked to recently even knows about them much at all.

If anyone's interested, I have tragi-comic stories to tell about this stuff from the past.
 
Nobody's really doing them because nobody's really manufacturing them anymore. You might find the odd person who has a rare connect for barbiturates but even then they tend to scare people a tad.

Quaaludes are making a small comeback, or at least an analogue, etaqualone is. Probably the closest you're likely to get nowadays.
 
I seen fiourinal for sale loically im in canada, its got caffeine,codeine,aspirin and phenobarbital. I've also heard etaqualone is useless.
 
I actually got a large amount (100mls of 50mg/ml) of Nembutal (Sodium Pentobarbital) in an IV ampoule, but it was around for use in euthanizing rats for research purposes. While the EtOH and propylene glycol it is dissolved in makes it painful to inject, I"d say its top notch compared to any Benzo. Kinda weird that lethal injection drugs can be recreational but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Rapid onset, great body euphoria, minimal impairment and memory loss. Great for sleep, and short half life means you can function fully the next day. I wish it was around more often but the FDA limited production to euthanization practice and research so it is hard to come by. Also, unlike benzos, you can OD and die from strictly barbiturates.

However when used safely these drugs can be much more recreational with half the negative side effects. If you ever come across Nembutal or Seconal or anything of that ilk I recommend stocking up because they're a rare treat and one of my favorite CNS depressants=D
 
Yeah, I know a source from a chick who works in a place that euthanizes animals. Sadly, it's mixed with methanol(among other things) so I'm very wary of it. Nevertheless, I hear that people party on it.

I remember scoring a batch of some kind of butabarbital elixir back in the '80's. It was cheap and kick-ass. A couple of teaspoons with a few drinks got you pain-free and full of laughs: fun, fun, fun! But you had to be careful. A couple of tablespoons meant you blacked out for a day or two. One dude ended up in the hospital having no idea how he got there.
 
There's basically only 3-4 barbiturates still used medically in countries with drug restrictions. Due to rather severe problems with abuse & overdose (death), benzodiazepines have long since become the mainstay for much of what barbs used to take over, even intravenous sedation.

Phenobarbital is still used as a a last-resort anticonvulsant and/or mood stabiliser. Its methylated analog mephobarbital was also used until discontinued in 2012.

Pentobarbital (Nembutal) & thiopental are used for anesthetia, euthanasia, & the Wada bariturate test to diagnose brain damage. (In any event, they are generally used in fairly controlled settings.)

Butabital is sold compounded in Fiorecet/Fiorinal with caffeine & another painkiller.

Barbital (diethylbarbituric acid) is also used as a cell buffer in biology labs occasionaly.
 
What were those red & green geltabs-- greens were stronger--- (we used to call them jellybeans) we got in the 70's and 80's? I think they were Placydils? Were those barbs?
 
I wonder if drug users in the 70's were more responsible or at least more knowledgeable about drugs than the new generation of users today. Teenagers today regularly take 4-6mg Xanax, or other ridiculous doses of benzos, without any benzo tolerance whatsoever. That kind of recklessness would surely kill barbiturate abusers.
 
Here in New York, they use Phenobarbital to detox alcoholics and benzo addicts in hospitals. They also keep it on hand in police stations in case someone in custody goes in alcohol withdrawal.
 
ErgicMergic said:
I wonder if drug users in the 70's were more responsible or at least more knowledgeable about drugs than the new generation of users today. Teenagers today regularly take 4-6mg Xanax, or other ridiculous doses of benzos, without any benzo tolerance whatsoever. That kind of recklessness would surely kill barbiturate abusers.
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It's probably just a matter of a few learning the hard way and then info getting around. Like, the information will spread if it's really needed, but not if it isn't.

Otherwise, it could just be the culture surrounding their use was a bit more conservative and less daring (possible, given the fact that they're readily euphoric, unlike benzos, so nontolerant individuals would start at a more reasonable dose).

That's all just baseless speculation though.

jk said:
I know they are rarely prescribed and hard to find. They are also not the ideal recreational drugs. I'm just curious if they've disappeared completely. Nobody I've talked to recently even knows about them much at all.
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Phenobarbital and butalbital are the most available as has been stated. The former being absolute shit, the latter also not considered recreational (well a few people like it, haven't tried it or phenobarbital myself).

How I wish I could try one of the short acting barbs of yore (I kind of obsess over'em and put them on a pedestal. Partly because I can't have them, partly for legitimate love of GABAergics).

If anyone's interested, I have tragi-comic stories to tell about this stuff from the past.
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You can relate them in blog entries, BL does have a blog function, and people do read'em (or so I hear).
 
MikeRWK said:
I seen fiourinal for sale loically im in canada, its got caffeine,codeine,aspirin and phenobarbital. I've also heard etaqualone is useless.
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Etaqualone is not useless. It's relatively subtle via most ROA's save for vaping, which gives a sedate rush.
 
ErgicMergic: "I wonder if drug users in the 70's were more responsible or at least more knowledgeable about drugs than the new generation of users today. Teenagers today regularly take 4-6mg Xanax, or other ridiculous doses of benzos, without any benzo tolerance whatsoever. That kind of recklessness would surely kill barbiturate abusers."

Never Knows Best: "It's probably just a matter of a few learning the hard way and then info getting around. Like, the information will spread if it's really needed, but not if it isn't.
Otherwise, it could just be the culture surrounding their use was a bit more conservative and less daring (possible, given the fact that they're readily euphoric, unlike benzos, so nontolerant individuals would start at a more reasonable dose).
That's all just baseless speculation though."

From what I recall of the 70's, prescription drugs just weren't very popular among recreational users. Oh we did them, for sure-- but it was more like something to fall back on if we couldn't find what we really wanted (usually weed, coke, acid, crystal, or junk). I remember doubling or tripling recommended dosages, but not eating pills by the handful.

These are generalizations based on my personal experience, YMMV.
 
"From what I recall of the 70's, prescription drugs just weren't very popular among recreational users."

With the notable exception of Quaaludes, of course.
 
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