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DOC vs 2c-e

acim

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I've gotten the opportunity to try either DOC or 2C-E. they're both psychedelic phenethylamines.
I have experience with plenty of drugs, my only true psychedelic experience being with LSD which I loved. Easy to handle and very visual :) I haven't found comparisons of 2c-e with DOC, so has anybody tried them and can compare them? Thanks a lot!
 
Both are very visual drugs. Reactions to each will vary depending on the individual, so I can only offer you my personal comparisons.

2c-e is more visual for me, with more of a focus on the OEVs. DOC has more interesting CEVs generally, that consistently resemble spatial tunnels - like a scifi wormhole.

2c-e is a much less positive headspace, more profound and therapeutic, less fun. DOC has a nootropic cognitive enhancement to its headspace that has allowed me to have truly intelligent discussion, whereas 2c-e's headspace is a little manic and confused for much thorough discussion. Rather, 2c-e's headspace lends itself well to creative outlet such as freeform writing, poetry, and music composition. The muscle tension tends to be about the same with each drug but the nausea is far worse with 2c-e. Both may cause nausea and vomiting on the come up, DOC's nausea tends to wear off faster after the come up than 2c-e's, however. DOC is a more potent chemical by weight and therefor should be dosed volumetrically (ie dissolve larger quantity of powder in solution and use a measuring device to dose out a smaller amount.) 2c-e can generally be dosed with a milligram scale (do NOT use a .01 scale for either substance).

DOC on average has a longer duration than 2c-e. 2c-e has a duration very similar to LSD, but consistently longer for me, whereas the duration of DOC can range anywhere from 12-30 hours. Personally, I find DOC's main duration of effects to be similar to 2c-e, with the remaining 8 hours to be faint residual stimulation with little to no psychedelic activity. A benzo for the comedown of DOC is very much recommended to allow sleeping.

If you'd like more information, let me know.
 
doc is amazing for me i actually prefer it over lsd

doc is crazy euphoria and visual without the mental fuck and its very happy almost roll like

on about 4.4mg i had crazy visuals and tripped about 28 hours and was not uncomfortable at anytime past the onset

2c-e is pushy
confusing
body load
gross imo
2c-i is much better

if i was you go with the doc everyone i know that tries it loves it
 
The first psychadelic I tried was DOC and if you are not experianced with LSD dose very low around 1 - 2mg's as to me it was a pretty fucking intense experiance but that may have been because I had a not bad but difficult set and setting for a trip and maybe not the most friendly. 2c-e is the only 2c ive tried and I only tried a very small dose so I cannot tell you what a larger dose would be like but a small dose was enjoyable but there was also something I didn't like about it. If i were to try DOC again I think i'd enjoy it a lot as now that I am more experienced I can see that it was just my lack of knowledge as to what would happen after I took it. My fiancee tried DOC and aMT after we had tripped a few times and said that the DOC was a lot better then the time me and her took it first as we knew more about that kinda shit. Anyway, my advice go with DOC but if the long lasting effects are a problem 2c-e would be just as good.
 
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