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Do you Think there is Intelligent Alien Life?

aint no aliens
aint no space neither

the black sky is just walls painted black and the stars are just tiny holes drilled in the walls meant to trick you



;):p
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
Yes. I'd venture a guess we're not nearly the only self-aware entities presently in existence. Nor are we anywhere near the first or the last. But I think we might have to really revamp our ideas of what constitutes 'life', if we ever come face to face with them.
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yeah fully. but more like face to *scream* ;)

i thought the impression at the end of the film "contact" was just right.
 
Impacto Profundo said:
aint no aliens
aint no space neither

the black sky is just walls painted black and the stars are just tiny holes drilled in the walls meant to trick you
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you forgot to mention that the earth is flat.


who's to say we havent already come into contact with extraterrestrial life? there's all kinds of unexplained shit in historical records that suggest we've had contact with beings not from the earth. the RG Veda (possibly... i know its in one of those hindu texts) and the Bible are actually excellent examples for this, and strange cave paintings, etcetc
 
I believe that somewhere in the universe, there are possibly beings who would refer to us with the same concept. Or maybe we would be considered primitive, or highly advanced.

It's entirely possible that earth has had visitors, to argue against that is too disregard anything that exists outside of your own memory, or the limited means of perceiving outside your senses.
 
i think there are most definately other beings out there... but i wonder id we would even be able to see them as they probably exist in other dimensions
 
I think there is highly intelligent life that evolved along a relatively similar path. All you need is to be within the habitable zone of the galaxy, then the habitable zone of the solar systems within that galaxy. Then the more we learn about extremophiles, and the very lengths life goes through to adapt to its environment, the more the habitable zones increase.

I am firmly of the belief that anywhere life can happen, life does happen. Meaning you have to find a reason why life wouldn't inhabit an area, not the other way around. There has been so much time for life to establish itself all over and under every surface.

That being said I think the rest of life we have on our own planet is far more intelligent than we even realize, going all the way down to single celled organisms.
 
punktuality said:
The Drake equation is all good but the Fermi Paradox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
asks if they are so probable then why haven't we found them yet?
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They are prbly asking the same thing about us.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, the only type of intelligent life that is able to exist in this universe are other humans that look/act/live exactly like us. If we are not capable of communicating with us, then they (being our 'cosmic twins/equals if you will) would also not be able to contact us either. We've sent rovers to Mars but can't talk to anyone outside our solar system. Perhaps intelligent life out there can also send rockets to nearby plants yet can't reach anyone outside their patch of the universe either.

A few people ask, "Well what if these other humans in other galaxies have existed longer? We have not reached out technological crescendo as of yet, so perhaps in our future we will invent a way to communicate easily across the universe. It's only a matter of time. Perhaps a civilization that has been around longer has reached or possibly surpassed this bar. If they are around for just 100,000 years longer then us, they must have invented a way to reach us by now."

And to that, my only guess would be that it's possible all civilizations end up destroying themselves before developing a way to communicate to beings light years away.
 
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^ Yeah, that's definitely one possibility.

Another interesting possibility that dawns on me is that a far advanced extraterrestrial species has already discovered and tried to contact us at some point, but their biophysics and/or their form of communication was so unrecognizable as such to us, that their contact attempt went utterly unnoticed to us, and therefore failed.
 
While I have never seen proof of life on other planets, I believe that the existence of life of other planets is a pretty high probability.

I also have this crazy idea that the seed of consciousness exists inherently in all energy/matter, and that we on earth are just one form that energy can take as it becomes self aware through complex organic compounds.

Isnt it amazing that atoms and molecules and energy particles can come together in such a away as to become self aware? It boggles the mind. If we are to believe in the theory of primordial soup then we must also believe that energy and matter already has the potential to become self aware and its just a matter of the how and when.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
^ Yeah, that's definitely one possibility.

Another interesting possibility that dawns on me is that a far advanced extraterrestrial species has already discovered and tried to contact us at some point, but their biophysics and/or their form of communication was so unrecognizable as such to us, that their contact attempt went utterly unnoticed to us, and therefore failed.
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We flatlanders have a ways to go before keeping up with the spheres. :)
 
If this one human race is the best that mother nature can do...fuck her.

That is all I will say.
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Evolution is blind. Humans may not be moral all the time, but we are damn good at fighting, fucking and making the most of available resources.
 
so if there are extra-terrestrials......are we going to meet them in heaven or whatever afterlife there is if there is one?

It'll sure as hell be interesting.


there should be a religion where the afterlife is whatever you think it is and when you die, whatever thoughts you have that are to happen when you die are what take place.
 
there should be a religion where the afterlife is whatever you think it is and when you die, whatever thoughts you have that are to happen when you die are what take place.
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Start it.
 
Max Power said:
. It's only a matter of time. Perhaps a civilization that has been around longer has reached or possibly surpassed this bar. If they are around for just 100,000 years longer then us, they must have invented a way to reach us by now."
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It surely is a matter a time.

Consider the first star, which we assume is required for life, formed only 150 million years after the big bang, making it roughly 8 BILLION YEARS older than our sun.

If we are generous and say that it took 4 BILLION YEARS for life on earth to develop to where we are now, that leaves a mind-boggling amount of time for intelligent life to have potentially formed.

With all things being equal, if you only consider the amount of progress made in the last few hundred years in our understanding of things, could you even begin to imagine the intelligence of beings that have a few billionyears to play with?
 
^I'm not saying you're wrong here, but I was under the impression that stars with planets are considerably rarer than those without. The oldest star with planets is probably quite a lot younger than the oldest star.
 
^ off course, and not everyone inhabitable yada yada.

talking of billions of years still
 
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With the amount of planets in the universe, it would be EXTREMELY hard to locate earth. Even with advanced technology we have to think realistically. They may have visited earth millions of years ago and seen nothing of interest and didnt bother coming back. Supposing that right now there is, 5000 civilizations, capable of space travel at light speed. It would still take millions of years before any of them found us, and thats supposing they were looking, and thats supposing they would want to even talk to us.

Intelligent life exists, they just havnt found us yet, or they have, and were so disgusted they just didnt bother taking matters further.
 
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