Benzos Do you think some vendors are underdosing flubramazolam?

[JM357]

OK, until last tuesday I hadn't taken any benzos for bout two months and did not have a dependency on them then (been years since I was RXed them and had a dependency). Well I got 1000mgs etizolam, 2x25mg bottles of flublam, and 1x100mg bottle of diclazepam (in case I get dependent and need to taper and I have another coming). Well I ended up in the hospital and figured it was the f-lam BUT THE FLAM WASN't in my system (etizolam- which oddly the hospital told me to take 3mgs of for pain as needed, don't quite get that (it literally says it in the discharge instructions). Now I think I spilled the majority of the etizolam (I woke up in 36 hours- I would think a 1000mgs would actually put a low dependent person out longer (and I'm on suboxone)).

Now the Flam and diclaz is what I have until my order comes (lesson learned: put away benzos other than what you plan on taking). Well, the Flam is strong but not so strong I can't take up to 1-1.25mgs throughout the day (375mcg doses max) but still there should be a build up. Do you think some vendors might be underdosing Flam? Also, it suddenly seemed like my tolerance started going down today (if someone had a huge binge could their tolerance go down while taking relatively normal doses?)

This time that etizolam is getting locked up after taking out the night's dose.

 

[JM357]

And the good news is I can taper off without anxiety/pain in about 1-2 weeks. I didn't think I could go to the methadone clinic but they actually have rides there and it is free. Also, while this was a couple years ago the nurse there said that if I gave 6 months clean urine he could get me switched to pain management (will remind him of that- I figure 7 months). I think after 2-3 weeks of use it should only take a 2 week taper.

 

[Sprout]

You mention a drop in tolerance and question the metabolic build-up, have you considered that the build-up is only just amassing in your system and being misinterpreted?
F-Lam is a nightmare, I thought it wasn't as strong as it was made out, and that my tolerance was somehow reversing, aaaaand then there's 5 days or so missing from my memory.
It builds up, slowly at first, and the "inverse tolerance effect" tends to appear right before the blackouts do.
1mg on Day 1 felt less than the 500mcg on Day 2, Day 3 I could get high on 0.25mg, but I was too benzo'd to put the 2 + 2 together.
Watch yourself, and if possible just switch to the Diclaz entirely.

 

[JM357]

You do have a good point there. And I didn't order any f-lam again just etizolam and diclazepam. Also, do you think some of the effects frrom f-lam are due to the "type" of benzo it is- strongly hypnotic and sedative?

 

[JM357]

Also- is it possible for benzo tolerance to increase that much in a week. I felt great when I took the 3mgs of etizolam. Then I took .250 f-lam. Then things got bad. Only 6 days ago. I know opioid tolerance goes up extremely fast but the gaba drugs like alcohol and benzos goes up slower. Or is it a) maybe for some reason f-lam doesn't effect me that heavily? b)learning to tolerate the effects. The next 2-3 days until my etizolam/diclaz comes I'm just going to take 2 mgs diclaz day 1 and 1 mg day2 (maybe an extra dose if I feel sick but I think at most it would be rebound anxiety.